What destroyed the USS Lawton?
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
The Vogt-Roberts Kraken, according to an interview.
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True, but it sounded to me like it was an "open to interpretation" answer. JVR doesn't personally think it's Godzilla, but the studio can easily retcon it or expand on it if they need/want to.ebirah_scampi wrote:It was just confirmed in an interview that the director at no point considered it to be Godzilla that attacked the Lawton. He even states he considered doing a cutaway to an unknown monster attacking the ship with a young Randa.
So basically, it's back where we started; we don't know.
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
More importantly, in the context of K:SI, it doesn't matter.
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
Well, we'll probably never know now. To me, it being Godzilla doesn't really make sense since he goes out of his way to AVOID ships as seen in G14.
A brand new kaiju YET to be seen would be my guess.
A brand new kaiju YET to be seen would be my guess.
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
But wasn't it confirmed that he sunk the ship that caused the conflict between america and cuba?Cookson wrote:Well, we'll probably never know now. To me, it being Godzilla doesn't really make sense since he goes out of his way to AVOID ships as seen in G14.
A brand new kaiju YET to be seen would be my guess.
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My fellow G-fans, let us pause for a moment here and admire this amazing username.SenseiTeriyakiV wrote:But wasn't it confirmed that he sunk the ship that caused the conflict between america and cuba?Cookson wrote:Well, we'll probably never know now. To me, it being Godzilla doesn't really make sense since he goes out of his way to AVOID ships as seen in G14.
A brand new kaiju YET to be seen would be my guess.
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Let's not derail the topic please.Gawdziller1954 wrote:My fellow G-fans, let us pause for a moment here and admire this amazing username.SenseiTeriyakiV wrote:But wasn't it confirmed that he sunk the ship that caused the conflict between america and cuba?Cookson wrote:Well, we'll probably never know now. To me, it being Godzilla doesn't really make sense since he goes out of his way to AVOID ships as seen in G14.
A brand new kaiju YET to be seen would be my guess.
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
Except for the fact it was stated Godzilla was attacking ships left and right when he was awakened?Cookson wrote:To me, it being Godzilla doesn't really make sense since he goes out of his way to AVOID ships as seen in G14.
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
Is this from the canon-when-convenient comic?Lain Of The Wired wrote:Except for the fact it was stated Godzilla was attacking ships left and right when he was awakened?Cookson wrote:To me, it being Godzilla doesn't really make sense since he goes out of his way to AVOID ships as seen in G14.
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Well we do know that Godzilla started the 1898 Spanish-American War by sinking the USS Maine.vibramrunner wrote:Is this from the canon-when-convenient comic?
http://www.tohokingdom.com/forum/viewto ... =9&t=20659
This proves Godzilla isn't as docile as made out to be believed and if he wants to can and will get aggressive.
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
It's in the movie, right as Dr. Serizawa and whatsherface were explaining to Ford about Godzilla... How did you miss it?vibramrunner wrote:Is this from the canon-when-convenient comic?Lain Of The Wired wrote:Except for the fact it was stated Godzilla was attacking ships left and right when he was awakened?Cookson wrote:To me, it being Godzilla doesn't really make sense since he goes out of his way to AVOID ships as seen in G14.
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I mean, he wasnt attacking out of spite, it was hunger, like a real animal
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
Well it's been a while since I've watched the whole movie.. I must've just blanked it. I do think that's interesting -- that he may have attacked the ships out of hunger, maybe like a shark taking a bite out of a surfboard. I wonder: at ocean depths far below where human instruments can travel, maybe there's a food chain of kaiju that Godzilla hunts. But all we ever saw the MUTOs eat was radioactive material, which makes me think Godzilla can subsist solely off of that himself. No one ever agrees with me on this thoughLain Of The Wired wrote:It's in the movie, right as Dr. Serizawa and whatsherface were explaining to Ford about Godzilla... How did you miss it?vibramrunner wrote:Is this from the canon-when-convenient comic?Lain Of The Wired wrote: Except for the fact it was stated Godzilla was attacking ships left and right when he was awakened?
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I mean, he wasnt attacking out of spite, it was hunger, like a real animal
What if they find like four blocks worth of Godzilla poop and decide to study it??
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It also said he was responsible for the destruction of ships in the Operation: Lucky Dragon special feature. I don't know if they will still take that into account though.
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
Just as a speculation, maybe we will see it in Godzilla 2 as a flashback. Let's say that there was another survivor that the military and Randa never found their body. After the attack from that large creature, the person wakes up on the shore of some distant island (dubbed Infant island or some other nod to original Toho film). He would've remembered what it was and tell us somehow but we don't know it's just theory of mine. I'd definitely like to think it's something new. I did like the Skull Crawlers and the Mutos from the 2 previous films and I can't believe we're getting 3 of the most popular Toho monsters as well. It could be Godzilla but I don't think he would attack the military because we've seen that he's not purposely going to. If they were in the way, they should've moved.
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Go back and rewatch the film then. I'm astounded that so many people in this fandom seem to forget Godzilla caused nothing but mayhem back in 1954, this knowledge is even spoon fed to us by Dr. Serizawa and Grahm when they're explaining to Ford Brody that Godzilla could potentially resurface.Scrapzilla54 wrote:It could be Godzilla but I don't think he would attack the military because we've seen that he's not purposely going to. If they were in the way, they should've moved.
I think everyone needs to go home, sit down, and pop their copy of G14 in and watch that scene over and over, put subtitles on too if it helps, whatever it takes.
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
The only evidence I know of this is that Godzilla started the Spanish-American War in 1898 by sinking the USS Maine (Why Godzilla was in an hallow harbor in the first place no one really knows so perhaps there's more to it then meets the eye). This does show evidence that if Godzilla wants to can and will be aggressive. Other then that though there's really nothing else showing him being aggressive towards humans.PitchBlackProgress wrote:Go back and rewatch the film then. I'm astounded that so many people in this fandom seem to forget Godzilla caused nothing but mayhem back in 1954, this knowledge is even spoon fed to us by Dr. Serizawa and Grahm when they're explaining to Ford Brody that Godzilla could potentially resurface.
I think everyone needs to go home, sit down, and pop their copy of G14 in and watch that scene over and over, put subtitles on too if it helps, whatever it takes.
Other then that they probably attempted to kill Godzilla back in 1954 out of fear due to him being you know an gigantic skreeonkin monster without giving the chance he's even a threat, that'd probably be people's first thing in mind upon seeing one.
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GodzillaFan1990's wrote:PitchBlackProgress wrote:Go back and rewatch the film then. I'm astounded that so many people in this fandom seem to forget Godzilla caused nothing but mayhem back in 1954, this knowledge is even spoon fed to us by Dr. Serizawa and Grahm when they're explaining to Ford Brody that Godzilla could potentially resurface.
I think everyone needs to go home, sit down, and pop their copy of G14 in and watch that scene over and over, put subtitles on too if it helps, whatever it takes.
Other then that they probably attempted to kill Godzilla back in 1954 out of fear due to him being you know an gigantic skreeonkin monster without giving the chance he's even a threat, that'd probably be people's first thing in mind upon seeing one.
I think you missed the point of my post, friend...
It's stated by characters in the film that after Godzilla was awakened in 1954, he was attacking Russian and US ships left and right. I'm guessing that'd be the reason they tried to bomb him out of existence.
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Re: What destroyed the USS Lawton?
My bad, its been a while since I seen the movie tbh.PitchBlackProgress wrote:
I think you missed the point of my post, friend...
It's stated by characters in the film that after Godzilla was awakened in 1954, he was attacking Russian and US ships left and right. I'm guessing that'd be the reason they tried to bomb him out of existence.
Perhaps those "attacks" on those US and Russian ships could've had something to do with containing radiation whom he and the M.U.T.O.'s feeds off of, just speculation though hence that attack too on the USS Maine in 1898.
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As I said, it seems it'd benefit a lot of people around here if they just sat down, popped their copy in, and paid special attention to the scene where Dr. Serizawa is talking to Ford on the ship after Joe dies.
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Yeah, Godzilla wins... sometimes. I mean, he was killed by Dr. Serizawa's patented bubble-bath formula, heartburn, missiles, and poor box office returns, got his ass kicked by a drunken, circus-escaped gorilla, then he was beaten by two newborn worms, yeah some “king”.
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I think the comic Godzilla:Awakening has done nothing to clear up the idea Godzilla was a destructive monster, 99% of all G2014 fanboys i have seen have stated that G:A is cannon over the actual film, and therefore it was Shinomura, not Godzilla.PitchBlackProgress wrote:Go back and rewatch the film then. I'm astounded that so many people in this fandom seem to forget Godzilla caused nothing but mayhem back in 1954, this knowledge is even spoon fed to us by Dr. Serizawa and Grahm when they're explaining to Ford Brody that Godzilla could potentially resurface.Scrapzilla54 wrote:It could be Godzilla but I don't think he would attack the military because we've seen that he's not purposely going to. If they were in the way, they should've moved.
I think everyone needs to go home, sit down, and pop their copy of G14 in and watch that scene over and over, put subtitles on too if it helps, whatever it takes.
of course, G:A doesn't line up with 75% of the film cannon either.
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