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Expanded Universe feats can be included, however Derleth's works should be considered to a higher degree given that he was a close friend of lovecraft and most of his contrabutions to the mythos where from fragments of Lovecraft's work before he died. List further EU sepreatley, however subtle Lovecraftian themes in Stephen Kings Works are entirely non-canon.

You may give suggestions, add your own profiles, and of course debate. I'll start with the Great Cthulhu.....IA Cthulhu!

Cthulhu

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Lineage and Historical feats

- He is a member of the Great Old Ones, a group of malovelent entities possesing enormous power. They generally dwell across Earth, yet some have territories streatching across the cosmos, such as Hastur the Unspeakable. Depending on original continuity of the EU, Cthulhu is either one of the lesser Great Old ones in the original Mythos () and one of the most powerful in August Derleth's Mythos

- He is descended from Yog-Sothoth of whom is the most powerful entity in the mythos after the sleeping god Azathoth. Yog-Sothoth is the most powerful member of the Outer Gods, forces so far beyond our comprehension they would drive us beyond mad, play with infinite dimensions and realities like toys; Yog-Sothoth is the absolute master over infinite dimensions and realities, he is essentially omniscient and embodies existence as a whole, for he is in everything, and everything is in him (exceptions being Azathoth, the Nameless Mist, and the Unnamed Darkness).

- He is also descended from Azathoth. Azathoth's power dwarfs Yog-Sothoth's own in his sleep. His appearance is unknowable by mortal beings, he exists beyond existence itself, he rules time and space from a black throne, all of existence is this monsters dream and it will dissipate if he ever awakens, as such chaotic outer gods lull him to sleep with chaotic and horrid notes. He could eliminate infinity itself as Yog-Sothoth embodies infinite realities, and he do is nothing compared to Azathoth. Yog-Sothoth is the strongest Outer God, yet even the weakest of Outer Gods play with possibilities and impossibilities as though they're a game. He is exists beyond the concept of death and being destroyed.

- Nug is his parent to Cthulhu and the direct offspring of Yog Sothoth (See Above).

- This is debatable, but it is possibly claimed that his birth either ignited or destroyed stars as refrenced in Whisperhers in the Darkness.

- Cthulhu's Star Spawn waged war against the Elder Things, a race of vegetable like creatures with advanced biological sciences and architect skills far beyond our own, the war had no conclusive victor.

- The Deep Ones, and by extension their leaders Father Dagon and Mother Hydra worship him as a god.

- Cthulhu and the other Great Old Ones waged war with the Elder Gods (strongest members can match certain Outer Gods, with Yad-Thaddag being equal to Yog-Sothoth) and was the rival and equal to one of their stronger members in the EU.

- Cthulhu was eventually imprisoned in his city of R'yleh on Earth, where he remains in a deep sleep until the stars would become aligned once more, and then Cthulhu would be free.

- He and his mate Idh-Yaa produced several powerful Great Old Ones.

- He killed one of his sons, a fellow Great Old One in battle during Nightmare's Disciple
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Powers & abilities

- Even in his weakened state during his sleep, he can reach anyone he wishes and communicate with them through their dreams at a planetary scale. His awakening will induce madness at an almost global scale according to what has been claimed. His mere form can drive less cold and scientific minds to the brink of insanity

- He can survive virtually anywhere. Across space and seemingly other dimensions and realities, he can survive underwater for at least eons, likley for eternity if he willed it so. He and his kin lived in a Binary star for what was claimed as centuries at a a time, he is also not made up of matter but something else entirely, and while his physical form was damaged by a motor boat this was superficial damage not to mention that he had not fully awakened and it can be assumed that it was little more than a projection.

- Physical form has immensely fast and effective regenerative abilities. He cannot simply die, as death to him is similar to being asleep, and he will eventually reawaken from it. Cthulhu's physical form is likley immensely strong given his enormous size. In a possible future, an awakened Cthulhu is unphased by nuclear weapons.

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Minions


Human Cultist
- Cthulhu's cult is incredibly loyal and vast, they have existed in all eras of human history and
-Cult will never be absent from Earth until Cthulhu awakens, as Cthulhu can likley assimilate new members in his sleep by ravaging ther minds.

Dagon
- Possibly a fellow lesser Great Old One, if so his capabilities are far higher than previously imagined.
- It was claimed once that he rose a large island from the bottom of the ocean to the surface, either way his sheer size makes him incredibly strong
- Implied to be incredibly intelligent.

True Deep Ones
- Far greater physical strength and endurance than the average human being
- Vast understanding of the universe and beyond
- Potent swimmers and architects (built massive underwater cities, said to have aided in the building of R'yleh)
- Biologically immortal (they grow slightly taller with age, Dagon is said to be little more than an incredibly old Deep One)
- Durable enough to survive at the very bottom of Earth's oceans
- Capable of interbreeding with humans

Innsmouth Human/Deep One Hybrids
- Biologically immortal
- Durable enough to survive at the very bottom of Earth's oceans
- Potent swimmers

Mi-Go
- Skilled scientists and brain surgeons (able to transplant human brains into mettalic cylinders and keep therm alive)
- Living fungus
- Likely immense knowledge of Outer Gods, Great Old Ones, and etc. (given that they are aware of Shub and Cthulhu)
- They have outposts in our system as far as what as what is believed to be Pluto, in which they call Yuggoth.
- Bested the Elder Things in a war, retain all the territory they gained (EU sources)
-The Elder Things defeated the Flying Polyps who destroyed the Great Race of Yith (a species with galactic spanning telepathy), and they stalemated the Star Spawn.

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Standard Fiction Sources
Call of Cthulhu: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... on/cc.aspx
The Dunwhich Horror: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... on/dh.aspx
Whisperers in the Darkness: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... n/wid.aspx
Azathoth: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... on/az.aspx
Dream Quest of Unkown Kadath: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... on/dq.aspx
Shadow over Innsmouth: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... /tgsk.aspx
Shadow Out of Time: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... n/sot.aspx
Dagon: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... ion/d.aspx
Dreams in the Witch's House: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... n/dwh.aspx
At the Mountains of Madnesss: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... on/mm.aspx
Through the Gates of the Silver Key: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... /tgsk.aspx
A guide to Cthulhu and a few other creations: http://www.hplovecraft.com/creation/bestiary.aspx
Another site: http://www.chaosium.com/cthulhu/fiction/6022.shtml

Expanded Universe
Innsmouth Clay
The Lurker at the Threshold
The Shuttered Room

Further EU (should be taken with a grain of salt)
A Colder War: http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm
Nightmare's Disciple
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Nyarlathothep is among the oldest of the outer gods, yet despite being far beyond the scope of most Elder Gods who are beyond the scope of most Great Old Ones who are beyond the scope of any other sentient life-form he is considered their weakest member, basiccally their messanger and servant (their bitch), though he is probably the closest being in the Mythos to having a human train of though. He holds resentment towards his masters.
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- According the the short story "The Crawling Chaos" Nyarlathothep will effortlessly destroy the entire planet, or atleast he destroyed a parralell Earth and from what the text implies, it appears that his attack has left the Sun in a dying state.

- He likley created the Hunting Horrors who chased Randolph Carter through an infinite number of universe being destroyed and born unphased, as such he "should" be beyond them by an immense degree.

- Nyarlathothep is capable of interdimensional and interuniversal travel across an infinite number of realities, he can even enter the dream worlds in which Randolph Carter travels to regularly.

- In "Nyarlathothep" it is implied that he may very well be Azathoth's soul, or atleast his true mind, leaving him as the near mindless entity, known to most as the "Blind Idiot God", this implies that he exists beyond existence, meaning he will survive Azathoth's reawakening and simply rejoin his "brother".

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Nyarlathotep: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... ion/n.aspx
Crawling Chaos: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... n/crc.aspx
The Fungi from Yuggoth: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... /p289.aspx
Dream Quest of Kadath: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/fiction/dq.aspx
Character Guides: http://www.hplovecraft.com/creation/bestiary.aspx
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Yog Sothoth
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- Yog Sothoth is the eternal archetype of the mythos, as the grandson of Azathoth and the grandfather of Cthulhu he is immensly powerful, to the point where some (idiots) debate that his power exceeds even Azathoth's own. His only equal is the Elder God Yad-Thaddag, who looks nearly identical to himself. He can grant even a human knowledge of all things, though it will generally overload their feeble mind and form, as demonstrated with Randolph Carter.

- Yog Sothoth is bassically nigh omnipotent or a high tier reality warper, he makes up an infinite number of realities and universes and possesess control over the very fabric of everything and every one, he can manipulate time-space to his will, and control existence itself. Yog Sothoth's power is infinitley beyond the scope of most Outer Gods, and his knowledge is equally as high.

- Yog-Sothoth is in everything, and everything is inside of him ( :| ). Time and space do not exist to him, it is just simply a part of him. He can bestow other entities with the Supreme Archetype, granting them some form of omnscience and immense power, still these archetypes have become little more than facets of Yog-Sothoth.

Sources
Through the Gates of the Silver Key: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... /tgsk.aspx
The Dunwhich Horror: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... on/dh.aspx
The Case of Charles Dexter Ward: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... n/cdw.aspx
The Horror in the Museum: http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/tex ... on/hm.aspx
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I'm really glad to see the C'thulu mythos getting some respect.

I'd also like to add my two cents on the boat incident-- physical forms are not the same for beings like C'thulu as they are for us. A body is essentially an avatar. It's something the being makes or takes in order to interact more directly with the world around it. C'thulu was just waking up. He was just composing his avatar. Getting hit by a steamboat going full-tilt was just enough to briefly disrupt that body and force him to take a moment longer to fix it.

It is not, in any way, shape, or form, an indicator of C'thulu's durability.

I mean, hell, C'thulu's much younger and much less powerful daughter-spawn was NUKED and it only caused minor injury. Elder Gods and their kind are very much in line with many Heisei Kaiju durability wise, and, terrifyingly, losing those bodies doesn't really affect them.
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So basically every match involving a Cthulhu Mythos character is one-sided as fuck.


I could suggest some beings that may at least be able to go up against Chtulhu and not be instantly destroyed, but I'm probably over-hyping them and I'm not too familiar with the Cthulhu Mythos or the characters I'm suggesting either.
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This is GREAT information! I love it :)

Cthulhu is far out of Godzilla's league (though Cthulhu could probably 'toy' with Godzilla by battling him in a kaiju brawl).
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Forget about his only weakness? Boats. Old boats. Hitting his head.

IE: There is no way Cthulhu could stand toe-to-toe with the likes of Godzilla.


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MM Raids Again wrote:Forget about his only weakness? Boats. Old boats. Hitting his head.

IE: There is no way Cthulhu could stand toe-to-toe with the likes of Godzilla.

I argue that because Cthulhu wasn't released by his Cult, the "stars weren't right" and it left him weaker than he would otherwise be.... that or it's because he JUST woke up and probably wasn't at full power/defense yet.
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American Godzilla wrote:
MM Raids Again wrote:Forget about his only weakness? Boats. Old boats. Hitting his head.

IE: There is no way Cthulhu could stand toe-to-toe with the likes of Godzilla.

I argue that because Cthulhu wasn't released by his Cult, the "stars weren't right" and it left him weaker than he would otherwise be.... that or it's because he JUST woke up and probably wasn't at full power/defense yet.
Your evidence for this is exactly what, again?


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Well do keep in mind Cthulhu is, by some standards, not technically a god but just the high priest of one. Much bigger fish than Cthulhu in the stars or sea. He's just the mascot, like Pikachu.
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Now there's a matchup I'd like to see... ;)
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MM Raids Again wrote:
American Godzilla wrote:
MM Raids Again wrote:Forget about his only weakness? Boats. Old boats. Hitting his head.

IE: There is no way Cthulhu could stand toe-to-toe with the likes of Godzilla.

I argue that because Cthulhu wasn't released by his Cult, the "stars weren't right" and it left him weaker than he would otherwise be.... that or it's because he JUST woke up and probably wasn't at full power/defense yet.
Your evidence for this is exactly what, again?

How's this as evidence... The way I always understood it was that the stars aligning would be enough to wake Cthulhu up, and the rituals had the function to free him completely. So the stars were right, and Cthulhu woke up; but the cultists were not able to perform the rituals because they were killed by the crew before they could, and Cthulhu, although awake, was not able to walk freely in the world, but was still tied to R'lyeh. When the city sunk again, he followed.
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MM Raids Again wrote:
American Godzilla wrote:

I argue that because Cthulhu wasn't released by his Cult, the "stars weren't right" and it left him weaker than he would otherwise be.... that or it's because he JUST woke up and probably wasn't at full power/defense yet.
Your evidence for this is exactly what, again?

How's this as evidence... The way I always understood it was that the stars aligning would be enough to wake Cthulhu up, and the rituals had the function to free him completely. So the stars were right, and Cthulhu woke up; but the cultists were not able to perform the rituals because they were killed by the crew before they could, and Cthulhu, although awake, was not able to walk freely in the world, but was still tied to R'lyeh. When the city sunk again, he followed.
Again, how is this any sort of evidence that Cthulhu would be able to take on the likes of Godzilla or even Rodan? Just because he's a "deity with a cult" doesn't make him omnipotent. Just ask Mothra.


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Cthulhu is far from omnipotent, in the Cthulhu Mythos that honor falls to Yog Sothoth or Azathoth depending on which version your following, but he's still way above "boat level".

In the original story, Cthulhu had been awakened but the stars were not right, so he had not been truly awakened. The boat could hope to do nothing to him, the only reason he went back to sleep was because the stars weren't right. When Cthulhu actually awakens, the entire world immediately falls into insanity.

Due to the nature of Lovecraft's original works, being horror stories that had ancient incomprehensible beings as stand ins for the uncaring nature of the universe, finding legitimate feats is rather difficult. Using feats from other works, Cthulhu is ridiculously strong, but how strong I'm not sure yet. I'll get back to you on that.
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When Cthulhu actually awakens, the entire world immediately falls into insanity.
Define "insanity." Chaos? Panic? Everyone legit goes crazy? Put Cthulhu in a world populated by the likes of Godzilla, Destoroyah and King Ghidorah, how exactly is he going to make the world "fall into insanity" when humanity has faced far worse threats?


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MM Raids Again wrote:
When Cthulhu actually awakens, the entire world immediately falls into insanity.
Define "insanity." Chaos? Panic? Everyone legit goes crazy? Put Cthulhu in a world populated by the likes of Godzilla, Destoroyah and King Ghidorah, how exactly is he going to make the world "fall into insanity" when humanity has faced far worse threats?
Legit goes crazy. It's not just "Cthulhu's a big monster, everyone panic", Cthulhu's true awakening forces everyone into, in some interpretations murderous, madness. It's quite literally one of his powers, not just a side effect of being scary to 1920s/1930s humanity.
Edit: Upon more research being conducted, I don't actually know how me makes people go mad. Lovercraft's original idea was probably just "seeing eldritch abominations makes one realize the futility of humanity's struggle." and most protagonists in his original stories didn't actually go insane. The later attempts by other authors, after Lovecraft's death, at making his stories one shared universe, A.K.A. the Cthulhu mythos, has made things more confusing.
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GodzillavsRayquaza wrote:
MM Raids Again wrote:
When Cthulhu actually awakens, the entire world immediately falls into insanity.
Define "insanity." Chaos? Panic? Everyone legit goes crazy? Put Cthulhu in a world populated by the likes of Godzilla, Destoroyah and King Ghidorah, how exactly is he going to make the world "fall into insanity" when humanity has faced far worse threats?
Legit goes crazy. It's not just "Cthulhu's a big monster, everyone panic", Cthulhu's true awakening forces everyone into, in some interpretations murderous, madness. It's quite literally one of his powers, not just a side effect of being scary to 1920s/1930s humanity.
Edit: Upon more research being conducted, I don't actually know how me makes people go mad. Lovercraft's original idea was probably just "seeing eldritch abominations makes one realize the futility of humanity's struggle." and most protagonists in his original stories didn't actually go insane. The later attempts by other authors, after Lovecraft's death, at making his stories one shared universe, A.K.A. the Cthulhu mythos, has made things more confusing.
Getting really hard to "respect the Cthulhu mythos" when everything is based on word of mouth instead of actual basis of events caused by him/them.


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Doesn't literally just LOOKING at cthulhu drive one insane? I've never actually read cthulhu mythos, but from what i've heard gazing upon him = madness: and no doubt, Godzilla is intelligent enough to be able to go insane.
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