Talkback Thread #4: Mothra vs. Godzilla (1964)

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This is a good one but I am not sure why it is called one of the best G films of all time. I mean don't get me wrong this is a good one, but I don't consider it on my top 5 or anything.
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Just saying I think an ending like the proposed Mothra vs. Bagan (Where the larva team up with the old Imago to defeat Godzilla at the cost of the Imago's life) would have made for a more reasonable and emotional ending. With the Old Mothra already behind her best years it wouldn't even convey that Godzilla is stronger than her at her best.
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Adding the imago Mothra to the final fight would make the threat of Godzilla seem a lot less difficult to overcome, though. The three working together and winning wouldn't be nearly as impressive a feat as the two infants succeeding on their own.
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Agent Smith wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:33 pm This is a good one but I am not sure why it is called one of the best G films of all time. I mean don't get me wrong this is a good one, but I don't consider it on my top 5 or anything.
It has a fantastic score, a really widely liked Godzilla design (I'm not the biggest fan of it but it has its merits), Godzilla is a villain which the average Godzilla fan seems to enjoy more, at least those on TohoKingdom from what I've gathered, Hondo's environmental message is clear, Mothra is simply a fun and great character, the writing and acting are really tight.
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Yes the score is most definitely great and I like the Godzilla design as well. The film does have a few things going for it for sure. It does manage to have a vs movie without being too over the top or awkward. I think there are better examples of a fantastic Godzilla movie though. Not dissing the film or anything because it is still great, just not a top 5 for me. The only significant thing I really find wrong with the movie is the first half or so almost feels like a remake of Mothra.
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Agent Smith wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:43 pm Yes the score is most definitely great and I like the Godzilla design as well. The film does have a few things going for it for sure. It does manage to have a vs movie without being too over the top or awkward. I think there are better examples of a fantastic Godzilla movie though. Not dissing the film or anything because it is still great, just not a top 5 for me. The only significant thing I really find wrong with the movie is the first half or so almost feels like a remake of Mothra.
It's interesting how a lot of the early Toho crossover films also work as remakes of other films. For example, KKVG is also a remake of both King Kong and Godzilla.
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LSD Jellyfish wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:58 pm
Agent Smith wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:43 pm Yes the score is most definitely great and I like the Godzilla design as well. The film does have a few things going for it for sure. It does manage to have a vs movie without being too over the top or awkward. I think there are better examples of a fantastic Godzilla movie though. Not dissing the film or anything because it is still great, just not a top 5 for me. The only significant thing I really find wrong with the movie is the first half or so almost feels like a remake of Mothra.
It's interesting how a lot of the early Toho crossover films also work as remakes of other films. For example, KKVG is also a remake of both King Kong and Godzilla.
I think that's in large part a reflection of the less permanent relationship audiences had with media at the time. For the most part, people going to see Mothra vs. Godzilla had seen the original Mothra one time, four years earlier - and that's the ones who had seen it at all. Even more time had elapsed between the last Japanese theatrical re-issue of King Kong and the release of King Kong vs. Godzilla.
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Agent Smith wrote: Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:43 pm Yes the score is most definitely great and I like the Godzilla design as well. The film does have a few things going for it for sure. It does manage to have a vs movie without being too over the top or awkward. I think there are better examples of a fantastic Godzilla movie though. Not dissing the film or anything because it is still great, just not a top 5 for me. The only significant thing I really find wrong with the movie is the first half or so almost feels like a remake of Mothra.
I kind of found the remaking of Mothra works for it. It does a great job of smoothing out some of the rougher edges in both KKvG and the original Mothra. Definitely my favorite of the Showa sequels.
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