The Godzilla Cringe Thread

[Voyager]

It’s not worth losing sleep over if you ask me — we live in an unprecedented time of knowledge where limitless information is at the finger tips of countless fans. If they know it, that’s awesome! If they don’t, it’s a drop out of the sea.

The English language titles in the 70s films especially I find misleading. Monster Zero, Sea Monster and Revenge are great though.

[Legion1979]

Perhaps, but will it really matter much to them if those versions aren't actually out there abd easily found? Even if they know about them I wonder if future generations are even going to care.

Most probably won't. I'm not going to lie and say it's a big deal; they have easy access to the original Japanese versions of the movies, and that's what counts.

But the only reason they're stuck ONLY being able to legally watch those versions is because Toho themselves have decided that the American versions no longer exist, and they're going out of their their way to erase history.

Honestly, it's pretty gross. There's a lot of things Toho does these days that I don't like, and their revisionist history of the movies (from titles, the monster names to plot points that become canon decades after the fact) is the absolute worst.

[StardustGenius]

Woah what monster names changed that happened? That's nuts!

I want all dubs restored and preserved. I prefer the international dubs by a mile, but keeping the American editions out of sight is real bad. I have a few ideas as to why they're doing this... None of them are good, but make sense in their Toho brains.

[SpiderZilla]

I find AMA most confusing because it's so similar to "Destroy All Monsters."

I’ve had at least one person confuse AMA with GMK when I referred to the latter by its full title.

[Legion1979]

Woah what monster names changed that happened? That's nuts!

I'm referring to the weird way Toho insists they should be spelled.

I want all dubs restored and preserved. I prefer the international dubs by a mile, but keeping the American editions out of sight is real bad. I have a few ideas as to why they're doing this... None of them are good, but make sense in their Toho brains.

I've heard lots of stories, but I just personally think Toho has a very specific idea of how Godzilla should be presented in this country, and the old Americans go against that.

[StardustGenius]

I kind of don't blame them for feeling that way, since a lot of boomers and older movie critics were pretty damned racist in their reviews for their kaiju movies back in the day! Movie reviews shifted to a really harsh negative tone by the mid 1960s. Even so, removing American dubs from general availablity is something I can't ever support.

In regards to the monster names, is this about names like , King Ghidorah, Hedorah, Megalon, and Anguirus? Because hearing HE-DRUH/HE-DRAH in that American dub was just so jarring, its one of the reasons I prefer the International Dub (even with the hilarious WHAT A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE IT IS line). Anguirus's name being all over the place is a victim of just strange translations. I grew up hearing Angilas in the dubs, but Anguirus isn't a deal breaker for me. Megalon is MEGARO or I suppose MEGALO in Japanese, but the way its pronounced in Japanese not lining up with the way name is spelled in English is a curiosity. Another name that I think was pronounced and spelled in such a deliberate way was Destoroyah. Can't copyright something as simple as Destroyer.

[JAGzilla]

'Minilla' annoys me the most. It's kind of clunky to say, isn't easily recognizable as a contraction of 'Mini Godzilla', and just ends up sounding awkwardly like 'Manilla'. 'Minya' might not mean anything, but it just sounds better as a name.

[HedorahIsBestGirl]

'Minilla' annoys me the most. It's kind of clunky to say, isn't easily recognizable as a contraction of 'Mini Godzilla', and just ends up sounding awkwardly like 'Manilla'. 'Minya' might not mean anything, but it just sounds better as a name.

100% agree. I've begrudgingly accepted typing it out as "Minilla" but when I speak it, I still say "Min-yuh."

[shadowgigan]

Well, now we know what happened to Mark Jaramillo from Kaiju Gaiden

[Legion1979]

Well, now we know what happened to Mark Jaramillo from Kaiju Gaiden

Yup. I dont know why the thread about it got locked though. Did something happen last night?

[shadowgigan]

Well, now we know what happened to Mark Jaramillo from Kaiju Gaiden

Yup. I dont know why the thread about it got locked though. Did something happen last night?

I don’t know, I didn’t check. I found out the news a few days ago and saw it was confirmed today. I thought it may have been a different Mark.

Now I feel like our chances of seeing these films are sufficiently diminished.

[Legion1979]

Well, now we know what happened to Mark Jaramillo from Kaiju Gaiden

Yup. I dont know why the thread about it got locked though. Did something happen last night?

I don’t know, I didn’t check. I found out the news a few days ago and saw it was confirmed today. I thought it may have been a different Mark.

Now I feel like our chances of seeing these films are sufficiently diminished.

An extremely small price to pay for a bunch of pedophiles getting outed.

[StardustGenius]

This is all real gross and necessary to point out. Fuck him.

[Gigantis]

It is honestly sad how one of the guys working on the movie necro'd the thread and tried acting like Mark was totally innocent. "NO GUYS, MARK JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE GODZILLA FANDOM A BETTER PLACE. I SWEAR!"

And it had been dead since February of 2019, so it sure as heck wasn't any coincidence lmao

[Legion1979]

Way to throw away decades of being a "name" in this fandom, Mark.

[Executive Hamster]

I suppose Im too young to know anything about this guy. Hell, I was too young to know who Deadzilla was back when that controversy dropped, but in any case, fuck him and fuck whatever shitty film he was doing.

[Mac Daddy MM]

I honestly can't wait for when some other creep ass fandom celebrities/influencers get exposed. My money is still on lolicon boy from NMI.

[shadowgigan]

It is honestly sad how one of the guys working on the movie necro'd the thread and tried acting like Mark was totally innocent. "NO GUYS, MARK JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE GODZILLA FANDOM A BETTER PLACE. I SWEAR!"

And it had been dead since February of 2019, so it sure as heck wasn't any coincidence lmao

Oh, wow. I didn't even see that. What an odd move, to think it would work. That person had to know what was coming out.

[Dv-218]

Yeah the choice to necro the thread right as…well, this came out to light and at the same time completely sideline it to focus on defending Mark’s “ego” is not only distasteful but also raises the mother of all red flags.

[shadowgigan]

It's really odd and, if it is a just an insane coincidence, I wish they would come back and explain themselves. But I doubt that will happen. Really odd and distasteful given the seriousness of what he was charged with.