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Kiryu remains my favorite Mechagodzilla, with MV close behind.
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Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:16 pm MonsterVerse MG is stupid, boring, unoriginal and did I say it’s stupid? It’s honestly one of the designs I despise the most. Heck, I’d take Anime MG over it. Atleast that has an original design.
Shredder originated in TMNT #1 way back when, and Metroplex came out in Transformers back in the 80s. So no, Anime MG is not original at all.

MV MG is the first time we're getting Ghidorah piloting Mechagodzilla, first time we have a kaiju with arms that are long enough to actually knock Godzilla on his ass and drag him around repeatedly. It also functions how a human made mech would, janky, towered, and propulsion based.
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TBH i'd like the MonsterVerse Mechagodzilla more if he wasn't so skinny and didn't have those really dumb crane arms.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:47 pm
Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:16 pm MonsterVerse MG is stupid, boring, unoriginal and did I say it’s stupid? It’s honestly one of the designs I despise the most. Heck, I’d take Anime MG over it. Atleast that has an original design.
Shredder originated in TMNT #1 way back when, and Metroplex came out in Transformers back in the 80s. So no, Anime MG is not original at all.

MV MG is the first time we're getting Ghidorah piloting Mechagodzilla, first time we have a kaiju with arms that are long enough to actually knock Godzilla on his ass and drag him around repeatedly. It also functions how a human made mech would, janky, towered, and propulsion based.
I agree with all of this apart from the jankyness. I feel he could've been less fluid in the movie to sell the robotic factor. I was thinking movement like IG-11 but on a larger scale. Though the arms I 100% agree with. Not sure why it was said earlier that MG had large ridiculous arms for no reason, when in the movie they're his main source of attack, and pretty effective. One claw was able to grab Godzilla's tail and drag him across the city, and grab his head while smashing it into buildings.
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DirektorSplennic wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:02 pm Not sure why it was said earlier that MG had large ridiculous arms for no reason, when in the movie they're his main source of attack, and pretty effective.
Him being a physical fighter isn't the problem, it's how they look. They gave him these weird, three fingered hands when it would look better if they just gave him regular fists.
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Gigantis wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:07 pm
DirektorSplennic wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:02 pm Not sure why it was said earlier that MG had large ridiculous arms for no reason, when in the movie they're his main source of attack, and pretty effective.
Him being a physical fighter isn't the problem, it's how they look. They gave him these weird, three fingered hands when it would look better if they just gave him regular fists.
I think the idea of the hands is to give Mechagodzilla a better sense of being artificial. To make it more distinct from Godzilla and "unnatural", the fact the long arms serve battle utility explains the length. And the clamps help to hold the enemy in place giving it to a practical application.
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DirektorSplennic wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:02 pm
_JNavs_ wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:47 pm
Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:16 pm MonsterVerse MG is stupid, boring, unoriginal and did I say it’s stupid? It’s honestly one of the designs I despise the most. Heck, I’d take Anime MG over it. Atleast that has an original design.
Shredder originated in TMNT #1 way back when, and Metroplex came out in Transformers back in the 80s. So no, Anime MG is not original at all.

MV MG is the first time we're getting Ghidorah piloting Mechagodzilla, first time we have a kaiju with arms that are long enough to actually knock Godzilla on his ass and drag him around repeatedly. It also functions how a human made mech would, janky, towered, and propulsion based.
I agree with all of this apart from the jankyness. I feel he could've been less fluid in the movie to sell the robotic factor. I was thinking movement like IG-11 but on a larger scale. Though the arms I 100% agree with. Not sure why it was said earlier that MG had large ridiculous arms for no reason, when in the movie they're his main source of attack, and pretty effective. One claw was able to grab Godzilla's tail and drag him across the city, and grab his head while smashing it into buildings.
Absolutely, his claw-arms were made to subdue, just like with IRL animal restraints. He subdued, and almost demolished Godzilla with an unbreakable steel grip. It's awesome!
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Kaiju-King42 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:27 pm Am I the only one here who’s just kinda neutral on the latest Mechagodzilla incarnation?

Don’t love it, don’t hate it either. It just exists.
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Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:56 am Showa MG (especially ‘75) is the peak of Mechas in the Godzilla pantheon. He makes all other MGs look like total chumps. MG Heisei is literally a silver, blander Heisei Godzilla, Kiryu is fine, but looks like Godzilla in armour, as Keizer said, Anime MG is a clusterskreeonk, RPO MG is the most safe, boring thing yet, and MV MG is just metal Godzilla with disgusting arms.
Question. Why does everyone love Showa MG damn much? Don’t get me wrong, I really like Showa. Currently my second favorite MG design/incarnation but...what’s the big draw that makes it so much better than the others? I honestly don’t get it lol
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Jermobooka wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:12 pm
Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:56 am Showa MG (especially ‘75) is the peak of Mechas in the Godzilla pantheon. He makes all other MGs look like total chumps. MG Heisei is literally a silver, blander Heisei Godzilla, Kiryu is fine, but looks like Godzilla in armour, as Keizer said, Anime MG is a clusterskreeonk, RPO MG is the most safe, boring thing yet, and MV MG is just metal Godzilla with disgusting arms.
Question. Why does everyone love Showa MG damn much? Don’t get me wrong, I really like Showa. Currently my second favorite MG design/incarnation but...what’s the big draw that makes it so much better than the others? I honestly don’t get it lol
I personally don't know. To me other versions of the character are quite comparable so I don't see this big gap the way others on the site do.
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Jermobooka wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:12 pm Question. Why does everyone love Showa MG damn much? Don’t get me wrong, I really like Showa. Currently my second favorite MG design/incarnation but...what’s the big draw that makes it so much better than the others? I honestly don’t get it lol
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Gigantis wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:36 pm
Jermobooka wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:12 pm Question. Why does everyone love Showa MG damn much? Don’t get me wrong, I really like Showa. Currently my second favorite MG design/incarnation but...what’s the big draw that makes it so much better than the others? I honestly don’t get it lol
Weapons dear boy. ALL THE WEAPONS!!

Oh yeah and he has the best design out of every Mechagodzilla so far.
That feels incredibly subjective. Every Mechagodzilla seems to have its fans design wise.
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godjacob wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:46 pm
Gigantis wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:36 pm
Jermobooka wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:12 pm Question. Why does everyone love Showa MG damn much? Don’t get me wrong, I really like Showa. Currently my second favorite MG design/incarnation but...what’s the big draw that makes it so much better than the others? I honestly don’t get it lol
Weapons dear boy. ALL THE WEAPONS!!

Oh yeah and he has the best design out of every Mechagodzilla so far.
That feels incredibly subjective. Every Mechagodzilla seems to have its fans design wise.
Yes and every fan can be wrong.

I personally believe MGII is the best Mechagodzilla followed by Showa MG and that's really it.

Monsterverse MG sucked
Anime MG was a bore
Kiryu was a lifeless douchebag
RPO MG was like imitation crab meat

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Jermobooka wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:12 pm
Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:56 am Showa MG (especially ‘75) is the peak of Mechas in the Godzilla pantheon. He makes all other MGs look like total chumps. MG Heisei is literally a silver, blander Heisei Godzilla, Kiryu is fine, but looks like Godzilla in armour, as Keizer said, Anime MG is a clusterskreeonk, RPO MG is the most safe, boring thing yet, and MV MG is just metal Godzilla with disgusting arms.
Question. Why does everyone love Showa MG damn much? Don’t get me wrong, I really like Showa. Currently my second favorite MG design/incarnation but...what’s the big draw that makes it so much better than the others? I honestly don’t get it lol
For one thing, it was, up until a few weeks ago, the only evil Mechagodzilla in existence.

It's still the only alien built Mechagodzilla. (The anime trilogy doesn't count.)

It's the only Mechagodzilla that had a legit reason for looking like Godzilla; and in doing so predated the Terminator by a full decade.

Subjectively speaking, but in my opinion, it has the best Mechagodzilla movie in Terror of Mechagodzilla.

Also subjectively speaking, and again in my opinion, it has the best design of any Mechagodzilla. Maybe even the best powers. Those finger missiles are iconic.
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goji89 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:18 pm

I personally believe MGII is the best Mechagodzilla followed by Showa MG and that's really it.


You almost had me until you decided to be completely wrong, Gojsiah.

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It's the only Mechagodzilla that had a legit reason for looking like Godzilla; and in doing so predated the Terminator by a full decade.

Subjectively speaking, but in my opinion, it has the best Mechagodzilla movie in Terror of Mechagodzilla.

Also subjectively speaking, and again in my opinion, it has the best design of any Mechagodzilla. Maybe even the best powers. Those finger missiles are iconic.
I estatically agree with you. Every past Mechagodzilla has been good but has had something that keeps it from being great (1993 has no real character or interesting quirks design wise, Kiryu is just a skreeonking great concept no one has done well outside of a handful of fanfics, City got close but it's more out there idea doesn't make it a great MECHAGODZILLA Mechagodzilla, and 2021 I'm still trying to decdie on) but the old Showa Mechagodzilla takes his concept above and skreeonking beyond, especially in TOMG, the best MG movie.
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Kaiju-King42 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:40 pm
Jermobooka wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:12 pm
Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:56 am Showa MG (especially ‘75) is the peak of Mechas in the Godzilla pantheon. He makes all other MGs look like total chumps. MG Heisei is literally a silver, blander Heisei Godzilla, Kiryu is fine, but looks like Godzilla in armour, as Keizer said, Anime MG is a clusterskreeonk, RPO MG is the most safe, boring thing yet, and MV MG is just metal Godzilla with disgusting arms.
Question. Why does everyone love Showa MG damn much? Don’t get me wrong, I really like Showa. Currently my second favorite MG design/incarnation but...what’s the big draw that makes it so much better than the others? I honestly don’t get it lol
For one thing, it was, up until a few weeks ago, the only evil Mechagodzilla in existence.

It's still the only alien built Mechagodzilla. (The anime trilogy doesn't count.)

It's the only Mechagodzilla that had a legit reason for looking like Godzilla; and in doing so predated the Terminator by a full decade.

Subjectively speaking, but in my opinion, it has the best Mechagodzilla movie in Terror of Mechagodzilla.

Also subjectively speaking, and again in my opinion, it has the best design of any Mechagodzilla. Maybe even the best powers. Those finger missiles are iconic.
This is just objectively wrong. You may not "like" Kiryu's execution, but if anything it has more reason to look like Godzilla given an actual skeleton is being used for its construction. Where as Mechagodzilla looks like it just to pull a fast one on humanity (Basically a better executed deception plot than the aliens in Invasion of the Astro Monster).
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:01 pm
goji89 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:18 pm

I personally believe MGII is the best Mechagodzilla followed by Showa MG and that's really it.


You almost had me until you decided to be completely wrong, Gojsiah.

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godjacob wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:19 pm This is just objectively wrong. You may not "like" Kiryu's execution, but if anything it has more reason to look like Godzilla given an actual skeleton is being used for its construction.
I like Kiryu fine. When I say the other MG's have no legit reason to look like Godzilla, well... for Kiryu that can be changed to this: why did they need to build the robot around the skeleton to begin with? It's 95% human built anyway.
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Kaiju-King42 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:38 pm
godjacob wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:19 pm This is just objectively wrong. You may not "like" Kiryu's execution, but if anything it has more reason to look like Godzilla given an actual skeleton is being used for its construction.
I like Kiryu fine. When I say the other MG's have no legit reason to look like Godzilla, well... for Kiryu that can be changed to this: why did they need to build the robot around the skeleton to begin with? It's 95% human built anyway.
Mechagodzilla was built like that in the Heisei era because he was built after the most powerful creature on the planet. He was suppose to Man's Godzilla destroying Nature's Godzilla.
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Kaiju-King42 wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:38 pm
godjacob wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:19 pm This is just objectively wrong. You may not "like" Kiryu's execution, but if anything it has more reason to look like Godzilla given an actual skeleton is being used for its construction.
I like Kiryu fine. When I say the other MG's have no legit reason to look like Godzilla, well... for Kiryu that can be changed to this: why did they need to build the robot around the skeleton to begin with? It's 95% human built anyway.
They literally explain why. Bio-computing. It allows Kiryu to respond faster on the field and helps with processing, basically the use of the skeleton with the DNA remnants is to help make it a more efficient anti-Kaiju killing machine. And Godzilla's skeleton was the only Kaiju skeleton they had to build their weapon around. Similar reasoning to use Ghidorah's head in GVK for its Mechagodzilla (And given the creator's vanity and proving man is the true "king" over Titans it makes sense he'd model it after Godzilla to rub it in his face).
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