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If I had to come up with some BS reason for that, maybe it's because they were trying to stray away from the more Humanoid Godzillas from the 70's. Having five fingers, is actually a very unique trait to humans and primates at large. Maybe they felt it would make him too human?...
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I prefer Godzilla with fangs.

Probably because I see him as this absolute beast, like the apex predator.

Has Godzilla ever shown his inner carnivore and eat meat in a G flick before? (Not like a bite in a fight)
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_JNavs_ wrote:I prefer Godzilla with fangs.

Probably because I see him as this absolute beast, like the apex predator.

Has Godzilla ever shown his inner carnivore and eat meat in a G flick before? (Not like a bite in a fight)
Not to my knowledge

Originally in his first appearance in 1954 he was supposed to be chomping down on a cow but that was discarded for reasons of scale. Similarly in the first draft of vs. Biollante he was supposed to kill and eat a giant rat-thing named Deutalios but that entire bit was written out and replaced

IIRC there's a throwaway line about Junior eating whales in vs. Destoroyah,

Aside from that not that I can recall, Toho doesn't really like that sort of thing for some reason (IIRC Matt Frank wanted to draw Godzilla eating a whale in Rulers of Earth but Toho came down and said no)
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G2000 wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:I prefer Godzilla with fangs.

Probably because I see him as this absolute beast, like the apex predator.

Has Godzilla ever shown his inner carnivore and eat meat in a G flick before? (Not like a bite in a fight)
Not to my knowledge

Originally in his first appearance in 1954 he was supposed to be chomping down on a cow but that was discarded for reasons of scale. Similarly in the first draft of vs. Biollante he was supposed to kill and eat a giant rat-thing named Deutalios but that entire bit was written out and replaced

IIRC there's a throwaway line about Junior eating whales in vs. Destoroyah,

Aside from that not that I can recall, Toho doesn't really like that sort of thing for some reason (IIRC Matt Frank wanted to draw Godzilla eating a whale in Rulers of Earth but Toho came down and said no)
Huh, I'd love to see it eventually. I know he took a bite outta Kamoebas' neck in SOS but that didn't really look like a "I'm hungry" bite lol.
Didn't Baragon eat a horse back in FCTW? I wonder why they wouldn't let their most feared/respected kaiju, eat flesh.
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Gaira eats humans, although never directly on screen. It seems to be reserved for the villainous monsters.
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Terasawa wrote:Gaira eats humans, although never directly on screen. It seems to be reserved for the villainous monsters.
He does stuff that one chick into his mouth at the airport, though for obvious reasons it's obscured
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_JNavs_ wrote: I wonder why they wouldn't let their most feared/respected kaiju, eat flesh.
Personally, eating flesh demystifies Godzilla. He's always been presented as this nigh godly being so him doing something as basic as hunting and eating just doesn't work for me.
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote: I wonder why they wouldn't let their most feared/respected kaiju, eat flesh.
Personally, eating flesh demystifies Godzilla. He's always been presented as this nigh godly being so him doing something as basic as hunting and eating just doesn't work for me.
Yeah that's fair, I can agree with that, it really depends on the incarnation.

Like MV G or Heisei G? I could totally see devouring kaiju, like carnivores, but Late Showa G and Shin? I don't know which would be freakier to watch feasting on raw meat.
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_JNavs_ wrote:Probably because I see him as this absolute beast, like the apex predator.
Ugh.
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_JNavs_ wrote: I wonder why they wouldn't let their most feared/respected kaiju, eat flesh.
Personally, eating flesh demystifies Godzilla. He's always been presented as this nigh godly being so him doing something as basic as hunting and eating just doesn't work for me.
Yeah. He's supposed to be some otherwordly thing, an abomination that should not exist. Making him feed off physical things, weakens the character. I have a feeling that's why he has never been shown to eat things, and I think that's why they cut the cow scene. Most incarnations, post late showa, imply Godzilla doesn't actually eat or need to, he just exists by absorbing radiation.

Also worth noting, that Japan lacks any actual real source for Godzilla or other Kaiju to get food on land other then humans.

While we are on the subject though:
Baby Godzilla's, Minya and Junior, have historically been shown to eat fruit, and things like trees. I like to believe that pre transformation/mutation, the Godzilla family/species is purely herbivorous.

Rodan is shown to eat Meganulon, Dolphins, and I believe, depending on how you interpret it, people.
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I personally don't see Godzilla eating another creature demystifying him, but that's just me.

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On the one hand having him actually eat opens a whole can of worms about how much nutrition Godzilla needs to survive
On the other hand it could make for some really neat imagery if done right. Personally I enjoy the idea of a Godzilla that can walk the line between godlike regality and animalistic savagery
And like everything else it can be handwaved away
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G2000 wrote:On the one hand having him actually eat opens a whole can of worms about how much nutrition Godzilla needs to survive
On the other hand it could make for some really neat imagery if done right. Personally I enjoy the idea of a Godzilla that can walk the line between godlike regality and animalistic savagery
And like everything else it can be handwaved away
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I don't have any interest in turning Godzilla into a carnivore. It would and does work for plenty of other kaiju, just not him. He is this strange, godlike figure that just... exists. Maybe he needs nuclear sustenance, depending on the incarnation, but mostly he is beyond basic biological functions. That, and... I dunno, it'd just seem weird and out of place, now, after all these years.

Although... much as we like to forget it, there was that one incarnation of Godzilla that ate fish... so there is a hated, looked-down-upon precedent for a carnivorous Godzilla...

On a related note, I almost really disliked the ending of KOTM. I thought for a minute that Godzilla was going to eat Ghidorah's last head, and that just wouldn't have sat well with me.
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JAGzilla wrote:I don't have any interest in turning Godzilla into a carnivore. It would and does work for plenty of other kaiju, just not him. He is this strange, godlike figure that just... exists. Maybe he needs nuclear sustenance, depending on the incarnation, but mostly he is beyond basic biological functions. That, and... I dunno, it'd just seem weird and out of place, now, after all these years.
Yeah you sum up my thoughts rather nicely.
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JAGzilla wrote: On a related note, I almost really disliked the ending of KOTM. I thought for a minute that Godzilla was going to eat Ghidorah's last head, and that just wouldn't have sat well with me.
He sort of did though, he charred the last head to little bits and swallowed whatever was left (judging by the gulp sound) to presumably digest him continuously and prevent his regeneration. A cruel and unusual fate that Ghiddy rightfully deserves.
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G2000 wrote:On the one hand having him actually eat opens a whole can of worms about how much nutrition Godzilla needs to survive
On the other hand it could make for some really neat imagery if done right. Personally I enjoy the idea of a Godzilla that can walk the line between godlike regality and animalistic savagery
And like everything else it can be handwaved away
Agreed. You can still have a "godly" Godzilla who can occasionally go "Hmm. I'm hungry. That whale, squid or lesser monster looks tasty." Plus the MV Godzilla has already been stated to be a predator and iirc, Dougherty stated that he'll eat other monsters.

The way I see it, it just comes down to preference. If you prefer Godzilla feeding on other creatures from time to time that's fine, but if you don't that's also fine.

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I honestly wouldn't mind/not care if a film showed a brief scene of Godzilla using those teeth of his to actually feed on something, whether that be a large whale, giant squid, Kaiju fodder etc. It doesn't take away from Godzilla's, "mystic", or unnatural nature to me in any way. If Godzilla ever looked towards a whale as a prey item and pursued it, I would simply state, "huh, Godzilla just ate something", and not give it a second thought. As someone else above stated, having him walk the line of this godlike and unnatural entity, to animalistic and brutal savagery is cool. Even if it's not even for Godzilla to gain any real sustenance, but simply to show dominance by eating a lesser monster, is something I personally wouldn't mind and don't see an issue with.
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I've never seen Godzilla vs Megalon. to this day, it's the only godzilla film I've never been able to watch.
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Ultimategodzilla2054 wrote:I've never seen Godzilla vs Megalon. to this day, it's the only godzilla film I've never been able to watch.
It’s on Comet TV this Sunday at 12 noon ET/PT (11 am CT, 1 pm MT) and you can watch it free online.
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