Kaiju Fan Confessions

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby mikelcho » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:56 am

LSD Jellyfish wrote:Many organisms have lived on Godzilla, but it's clear they suffer horrible side effects.

The Trilobite in 1954 was incredibly irradiated.

The Shockirus in 1984 were sea louses that fed off Godzilla's energy and DNA and mutated.

One of my favorite minor things in the IDW comics was the Strange Bird from Godzilla Legends 5.
Actually, it's "lice", not "louses".

All of this reminds me of something that I saw in Dark Horse Comics #11 a long time ago. A gull that's standing on one of Godzilla's back plates while he's unconscious in the ocean over the slab gets killed in a brief flash of blue glowing radiation before he awakens.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:15 am

I always remember Godzilla 1954 has ears, but I almost always forget he has very pronounced fangs.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby edgaguirus » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:41 am

In the Italian poster, those fangs are quite prominent.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Matango Taste » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:48 pm

I never understood why Toho was so anal about Godzilla having four fingers

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby tyrantgoji » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:56 pm

Matango Taste wrote:I never understood why Toho was so anal about Godzilla having four fingers


Does anyone? Far as we're concerned that policy could be long gone by now. It was last in full affect back in the Heisei era,so maybe the new WOG series can give us one with three or five fingers.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Matango Taste » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:58 pm

The repercussions of a five fingered Godzilla would be really creepy

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:26 pm

...I never noticed Godzilla had four fingers...
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby tyrantgoji » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:39 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:...I never noticed Godzilla had four fingers...


GAAAASP AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A FA-nah i'm kidding :P I honestly didn't know either until someone pointed out to me last year.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:44 pm

tyrantgoji wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:...I never noticed Godzilla had four fingers...


GAAAASP AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A FA-nah i'm kidding :P I honestly didn't know either until someone pointed out to me last year.

It's definitely one of those things that you just never notice because no one points it out. I know there's like Godzilla's with 3 and four toes though.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Matango Taste » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:51 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:...I never noticed Godzilla had four fingers...

When making the stipulations of Godzilla's design in 1998, Toho said Godzilla absolutely had to have four fingers

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:54 pm

If I had to come up with some BS reason for that, maybe it's because they were trying to stray away from the more Humanoid Godzillas from the 70's. Having five fingers, is actually a very unique trait to humans and primates at large. Maybe they felt it would make him too human?...
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby _JNavs_ » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:56 pm

I prefer Godzilla with fangs.

Probably because I see him as this absolute beast, like the apex predator.

Has Godzilla ever shown his inner carnivore and eat meat in a G flick before? (Not like a bite in a fight)
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby G2000 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:10 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:I prefer Godzilla with fangs.

Probably because I see him as this absolute beast, like the apex predator.

Has Godzilla ever shown his inner carnivore and eat meat in a G flick before? (Not like a bite in a fight)


Not to my knowledge

Originally in his first appearance in 1954 he was supposed to be chomping down on a cow but that was discarded for reasons of scale. Similarly in the first draft of vs. Biollante he was supposed to kill and eat a giant rat-thing named Deutalios but that entire bit was written out and replaced

IIRC there's a throwaway line about Junior eating whales in vs. Destoroyah,

Aside from that not that I can recall, Toho doesn't really like that sort of thing for some reason (IIRC Matt Frank wanted to draw Godzilla eating a whale in Rulers of Earth but Toho came down and said no)
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby _JNavs_ » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:23 pm

G2000 wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:I prefer Godzilla with fangs.

Probably because I see him as this absolute beast, like the apex predator.

Has Godzilla ever shown his inner carnivore and eat meat in a G flick before? (Not like a bite in a fight)


Not to my knowledge

Originally in his first appearance in 1954 he was supposed to be chomping down on a cow but that was discarded for reasons of scale. Similarly in the first draft of vs. Biollante he was supposed to kill and eat a giant rat-thing named Deutalios but that entire bit was written out and replaced

IIRC there's a throwaway line about Junior eating whales in vs. Destoroyah,

Aside from that not that I can recall, Toho doesn't really like that sort of thing for some reason (IIRC Matt Frank wanted to draw Godzilla eating a whale in Rulers of Earth but Toho came down and said no)

Huh, I'd love to see it eventually. I know he took a bite outta Kamoebas' neck in SOS but that didn't really look like a "I'm hungry" bite lol.
Didn't Baragon eat a horse back in FCTW? I wonder why they wouldn't let their most feared/respected kaiju, eat flesh.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Terasawa » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:25 pm

Gaira eats humans, although never directly on screen. It seems to be reserved for the villainous monsters.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby G2000 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:28 pm

Terasawa wrote:Gaira eats humans, although never directly on screen. It seems to be reserved for the villainous monsters.


He does stuff that one chick into his mouth at the airport, though for obvious reasons it's obscured
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:12 pm

_JNavs_ wrote: I wonder why they wouldn't let their most feared/respected kaiju, eat flesh.


Personally, eating flesh demystifies Godzilla. He's always been presented as this nigh godly being so him doing something as basic as hunting and eating just doesn't work for me.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby _JNavs_ » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:17 pm

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote: I wonder why they wouldn't let their most feared/respected kaiju, eat flesh.


Personally, eating flesh demystifies Godzilla. He's always been presented as this nigh godly being so him doing something as basic as hunting and eating just doesn't work for me.

Yeah that's fair, I can agree with that, it really depends on the incarnation.

Like MV G or Heisei G? I could totally see devouring kaiju, like carnivores, but Late Showa G and Shin? I don't know which would be freakier to watch feasting on raw meat.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:24 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:Probably because I see him as this absolute beast, like the apex predator.

Ugh.

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote: I wonder why they wouldn't let their most feared/respected kaiju, eat flesh.


Personally, eating flesh demystifies Godzilla. He's always been presented as this nigh godly being so him doing something as basic as hunting and eating just doesn't work for me.

Yeah. He's supposed to be some otherwordly thing, an abomination that should not exist. Making him feed off physical things, weakens the character. I have a feeling that's why he has never been shown to eat things, and I think that's why they cut the cow scene. Most incarnations, post late showa, imply Godzilla doesn't actually eat or need to, he just exists by absorbing radiation.

Also worth noting, that Japan lacks any actual real source for Godzilla or other Kaiju to get food on land other then humans.

While we are on the subject though:
Baby Godzilla's, Minya and Junior, have historically been shown to eat fruit, and things like trees. I like to believe that pre transformation/mutation, the Godzilla family/species is purely herbivorous.

Rodan is shown to eat Meganulon, Dolphins, and I believe, depending on how you interpret it, people.
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_JNavs_ wrote:The MV is like cheap imitation crabmeat, it tastes good, but it isn't real, while Shin is kino peak Japanese performance.

Rodan95 wrote:The Shobijin are sat on by a fatass explorer and killed. Mothra is pissed and destroys Japan.


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