Talkback: Godzilla 2000 Millennium (1999)

[godzilla5417]

Define "the painted one"

http://www.impawards.com/2000/posters/g ... ousand.jpg

Oh yeah. Forgot that one existed.

So who's the artist? That guys daughter? What's her name? Sorry about all the questions, but then again that's what these forums are for.

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^Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I gotta say though, I love the shit out of those purple spines.

I've always loved the purple spines.

[Destorogoji]

The purple spines are awesome.
I love how awesome they can look:

[F4ZaTE_X]

The purple spines are awesome.
I love how awesome they can look:
http://i.imgbox.com/UPn2XkrM.jpg

I think that's the one picture they look too big in

[godzilla5417]

The purple spines are awesome.
I love how awesome they can look:

This is in my opinion the coolest Godzilla design ever conceived, and always has been my favorite.

[Zarm]

Watching this again last night- still one of my favorites- I wondered if perhaps we shouldn't credit the Millennium version of Godzilla with the same powers of atomic breath flight that we do for 70s Godzilla from vs. Hedorah, because I can't figure out how else he got from waist-high to the cliff when the car runs into him at the beginning, to stomping through the tunnel from above in the space of several seconds.

[Rodan]

In the guide book for the film from Toho it is confirmed that the Godzilla in this film is the second to appear and that it appeared after the 1954 Godzilla.

Well that's one mystery solved.

This is not true, as I broke down explicitly last page.

"This new, fourth generation of Godzilla (is) said to have made landfall in Japan many times since 1945." Or more smoothly, "This new, fourth generation of Godzilla has apparently made landfall in Japan many times since 1945." (1945 is probably a typo here.)

Fourth real-world incarnation; absolutely no statement about its relationship to the original Godzilla. Certainly nothing said about it being the second to appear in its timeline. It's also the only Godzilla description on the page to not explicitly mention a connection to the original.

Guys, please don't spread information stated to come from those guide book pages around if you can't read them, and if you're going to ignore posts from people who can. There are multiple members here who speak various levels of Japanese if you're ever curious about what ancillary material like this says.

[Destorogoji]

So this is still the first Godzilla? Awesome. That also explains why they went back to the 50 m. tall monsters. Which is, imo, the perfect size for Godzilla.

[GodzillaRangerPrime]

In the guide book for the film from Toho it is confirmed that the Godzilla in this film is the second to appear and that it appeared after the 1954 Godzilla.

Well that's one mystery solved.

This is not true, as I broke down explicitly last page.

"This new, fourth generation of Godzilla (is) said to have made landfall in Japan many times since 1945." Or more smoothly, "This new, fourth generation of Godzilla has apparently made landfall in Japan many times since 1945." (1945 is probably a typo here.)

Fourth real-world incarnation; absolutely no statement about its relationship to the original Godzilla. Certainly nothing said about it being the second to appear in its timeline. It's also the only Godzilla description on the page to not explicitly mention a connection to the original.

Guys, please don't spread information stated to come from those guide book pages around if you can't read them, and if you're going to ignore posts from people who can. There are multiple members here who speak various levels of Japanese if you're ever curious about what ancillary material like this says.

Well, this same description could fit a second Godzilla that made landfall on Japan many times since the original died on 1954

[Gerdzerl]

Bump.

Semi-off topic, but here are various little known stats for this film's incarnation of Godzilla.

These pages come from Godzilla 2000: Millennium Super Complete Works (ゴジラ２０００ ミレニアム 超全集 Gojira 2000 Mireniamu Chō Zenshū), a Japan-only informational book published by Shogakukan on January 10, 2000.

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Page 50:


* Height: 55 meters
* Total Body Length: 122.5 meters
* Tail Length: 78 meters
* Weight: 25,000 metric tons
* Head Length: 10 meters
* Head Width: 7.8 meters
* Snout Length: 7.8 meters
* Snout Width: 6.5 meters
* Head Height: 7.8 meters
* Shoulder Width: 20 meters
* Lower Arm Length: 14 meters
* Hand Vertical Height: 3.8 meters
* Hand Vertical Width: 3 meters
* Hip Width: 14 meters
* Thigh-to-Thigh Width: 22 meters
* Foot Length: 12 meters
* Foot-to-Knee Height: 19 meters
* Foot Width: 10 meters
* Head-to-Tail Hypotenuse: 105 meters
* Walking Speed: 40 kilometers per hour

[Godzillian]

So just copying and pasting what people post on other sites without a direct link? Smh

[Gerdzerl]

So just copying and pasting what people post on other sites without a direct link? Smh

Wait, what? I literally just did post a direct link, two of them in fact. I don't quite understand what you mean.



My apologies if I'm coming off as overly confrontational/defensive, but I simply just wanted to share some rarely known info pertaining to this film's Godzilla that I thought was neat.

[Zarm]

Whoa. Always so weird to see someone using a completely different theme in a screenshot, when you've grown to take the 'look' of the forums so for-granted...

EDIT: Nifty! I wish we had that level of info on some of the other incarnations...

[Godzillian]

Oh excuse me I didn't see the highlighted hyper links

[King of the Monsters]

On the topic of this Godzilla's identity, while the 1999 guide book is imprecise about whether it is the 1954 Godzilla or a second one, I think the fact it calls it a "fourth generation of Godzilla" suggests that even within its continuity it is not the same individual as the 1954 Godzilla. That book along with Shin Godzilla Walker also demonstrate that G2K is considered to follow the original film, even though no such dialogue is present in the film itself.

Most Japanese sources I've seen, barring terrible mistranslation on my part, seem to suggest this Godzilla is indeed meant to be a second Godzilla that appeared after the 1954 Godzilla. Godzilla.jp, Toho's former official site for the Godzilla series, said that it was a second Godzilla that appeared after the first Godzilla (if anyone could find an archive of that site's page for Godzilla 2000, we could find the actual text), and Japanese Wikipedia's bio for this Godzilla opens with: "1954年に出現した初代ゴジラの後に日本にたびたび上陸している緑色の体色のゴジラ。" To the best of my understanding, it says something to the effect of "After the first generation Godzilla appeared in 1954, this green Godzilla has frequently landed in Japan."

[Shin Gabara]

Watching for the first time in forever. This is a terrible suit. Way too Croczilla. Havent gotten to Orga yet, but I remember digging it.

[KaijuCanuck]

This movie is pretty great. I’m not a massive fan of the suit, but the plot is fun and it has some of the most engaging and memorable human characters of any Godzilla film, for me at least. Also, when I was a little kid the Orga reveal was legitimately a shocking twist. Pretty unique enemy kaiju, too.

One thing I’ve never been clear on: did the UFO contain one Mellenian who mutated into Orga, or was it a bunch who merged into the Mellenian you see?

[Ivo-goji]

^The manga adaptation seems to imply the second thing.

[Genjira Overwatch]

One of the 1st 3 Godzilla films I'd seen, has a lot of nostalgic value to it. Definitely a favorite of mine, don't really care about people who say it sucked. That's your opinion, and I'm not legally required to like or listen.

[KingKaiju]

One thing I’ve alwas wondered, that I never found an answer to is: does anyone know what the reasoning was in changing Godzilla's atomic breath from blue to orange? Was it to leave some kind of connectivity to the Heisei series?

[KaijuCanuck]

One thing I’ve alwas wondered, that I never found an answer to is: does anyone know what the reasoning was in changing Godzilla's atomic breath from blue to orange? Was it to leave some kind of connectivity to the Heisei series?

I think it was just an arbitrary ‘let’s do something new’ kind of choice.