Showzilla wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:16 pm
MegaEvilSaurus666 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:52 pm
Showzilla wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:02 pm
So yeah, peeps on YouTube found out about the whole "Godzilla was gassing even before he fought kong"
And the cope is strong
" Well, the novels HINT that the kongs won the war"
When both jia and Godzilla state "lol, the monkeys got chased out by Godzilla's granpappy"
"Well, the kongs drove the Gojiras off of their surface home in dominion"
Apparently, from several people have said, a bunch of Kong's drove Godzilla himself off back when he was an adolescent.
They really ain't happy about the loss being even worse.
Late reply, but...
That doesn't make sense, though. Godzilla would've been much older than an adolescent age by the time the Kong species came around. If it's true, they're just changing what's established as they go along and coming up with nonsense. I don't know how much more I can take of that sort of thing. Unless the Kongs aren't apes, and Godzilla's species takes millions of years to reach maturity, this is nonsense.
plasmabeam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:43 pm
I’m happy it wasn’t in the movie. And certainly the chances that it’s only a toy gimmick are like 95% or higher.
It's really not just a blatant toy gimmick. That thing was one of many things changed in the toy line. There's no significant evidence that suggests it was only a toy gimmick, and considering the amount that was cut from the film (thankfully), it could have been in the plans at the very least.
From what I've gathered
The age established for Godzilla in awakening has been retconned or it was just a theory.
This....makes sense.
Assuming everyone, including Godzilla himself, are telling the truth.
Humanity is only a few hundred thousand years old, civilization is only a few thousand years old. The iwi recorded the initiation of the kong Gojira war, so the war itself must be thousands of years old. Godzilla's ancestors fought in this war, so we can assume a good five or six generations of gap. Even if we use HE predating sumeria theories, that would put godzilla at a couple of thousands of years old, up to ten thousand if we stretch. So you wouldn't have to go back too far to have a whipper snapper of Godzilla.
Dagon him self kind of supports this theory too. He was the big Gojira of the time the Phoenicians, between 1550-300 BC. If Godzilla wasn't an adult by then, he's still a good three thousand years old.
Now, none of these are exact numbers, but yeah, Godzilla's age in awakening was an estimate of scientists who had only recently gotten into him, so them being wrong would make sense.
Dominion seems to suggest that Godzilla is younger than previously thought. There's a line in which Godzilla reminisces how the world has changed since he was born, and human civilization seems to have been around even when he was young.
The 'Gojira originating from the Permian' stuff in Awakening is pretty ambiguous, but it may have been talking about the Gojira species as a whole, not our protagonist "Godzilla" individual himself. It's pretty ambiguous the way it's depicted, and they never really make a distinction between the Gojira species and "Godzilla" as an individual.
Or maybe human civilization was much older than we though in the Monsterverse. The series isn't much for scientific accuracy, so that's also possible. Great apes appeared around 17 million years ago, and the Kong species may be that old. If Godzilla had an encounter with an early member of the Kong species when he was young, that would still make him pretty old.
And it's also possible that the Gojira species DOES take millions of years to mature, it's already proven that they have incredibly long lifespans so it's possible. I'd imagine that the Gojira species is much longer-lived and takes a longer time to mature, when compared to Kongs. Like big cats and crocodiles in real life. Big cats have an average lifespan of 10~15 years in the wild, while large crocodiles live up to a hundred years and take 15~16 years just to mature.
Or it's also possible that Godzilla was already an adult by then, just smaller. In real life, reptiles keep growing even after they mature, and the size difference between an aged, seasoned individual and a young, freshly-matured individual is huge. Again, take crocodiles for example. Male Saltwater Crocodiles average around 10~11 feet and weigh less than 200 kilograms when they mature. But older males may grow double, or triple that size, and even older males are 5~6 times bigger. Naturally, the older males are a lot more powerful than younger ones and they become the dominant alphas in their territory; younger males are forced out. The same thing may be applied to Godzilla.
Is there a link to an official statement?
