Godzilla vs Kong: the Box Office Thread - Predictions, Tracking, etc
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Anyone calling GvK not a success are out of tune with reality. GvK is the first BIG success in the pandemic world setting the pandemic box office record and HBOMAX record at that time.
Instead of crying foul on the movie when another movie succeeds we should be rooting on these films success in the world we’re in right now. Grow up.
Instead of crying foul on the movie when another movie succeeds we should be rooting on these films success in the world we’re in right now. Grow up.
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Fair enough, but my point still stands!miguelnuva wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:12 pmMortal Kombat is the least Japanese thing right now.Jermobooka wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:28 pmFirst Japan surpassed and left shitty American entertainment in the dust as anime and manga dominates, and now Japanese made/based/inspired films have saved theaters! It’s a takeover, i tell ye!Desghidorah wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:59 pm Can we just lament Spring of 2021 was the year and time the top forces in the box office were a film focused on kaiju, another involving ninjas, and another involving yokai which was anime on top of it all. Spring of 2021, that time the box office went Japanese.
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Someone is going to come in here talk about how bad the box office multiplier is watch.Cookson wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:30 pm Anyone calling GvK not a success are out of tune with reality. GvK is the first BIG success in the pandemic world setting the pandemic box office record and HBOMAX record at that time.
Instead of crying foul on the movie when another movie succeeds we should be rooting on these films success in the world we’re in right now. Grow up.
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Oh get a life. You tried to start something and it backfired horribly on youMoogabunga wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:20 pmNeed to get out of that echo chamber, mangridiron_kaiju wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:17 pm
CALLED IT!!! I knew once this movie came out and everyone enjoys it
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You can see how such jabs could come off as disrespectful though, right? I'm fairly certain you're just stirring the pot, but regardless, the streaming component is an interesting aspect and I'm glad you brought it up.
"Success" is multi-faceted and its important to view the franchise's reception from every angle if we're to accurately measure a film's footprint in these strange times. It would seem to me, at least, that the streaming aspect was higher for MK because less people thought it was a worthy enough theatrical exhibition and more of a "I'll get to it when I get to it" kind of movie. That isn't inherently bad per se, but does show, I think, a certain lack of interest->dollars conversion. MK's social media footprint registered quite large, but it still doesn't seem to be to the benefit of it's overall performance. I'm sure HBO is happy for the boost to Max though, and the budget wasn't nearly as high as other blockbusters, so it's still going to make a tidy profit/footprint. One could be fairly hopeful about another modestly-budgeted sequel down the road, I believe (or perhaps an HBO Max exclusive streaming series). Given how extreme the movie leans, that's impressive in and of itself, just as GvK got a significant audience awareness boost for the franchise. Both were successful from a business perspective, though each to degrees. I like both properties, so its all good.
"Success" is multi-faceted and its important to view the franchise's reception from every angle if we're to accurately measure a film's footprint in these strange times. It would seem to me, at least, that the streaming aspect was higher for MK because less people thought it was a worthy enough theatrical exhibition and more of a "I'll get to it when I get to it" kind of movie. That isn't inherently bad per se, but does show, I think, a certain lack of interest->dollars conversion. MK's social media footprint registered quite large, but it still doesn't seem to be to the benefit of it's overall performance. I'm sure HBO is happy for the boost to Max though, and the budget wasn't nearly as high as other blockbusters, so it's still going to make a tidy profit/footprint. One could be fairly hopeful about another modestly-budgeted sequel down the road, I believe (or perhaps an HBO Max exclusive streaming series). Given how extreme the movie leans, that's impressive in and of itself, just as GvK got a significant audience awareness boost for the franchise. Both were successful from a business perspective, though each to degrees. I like both properties, so its all good.
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Considering by my math the multiplier so far is 2.53x, they'd be talking out of their ass.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:34 pmSomeone is going to come in here talk about how bad the box office multiplier is watch.Cookson wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:30 pm Anyone calling GvK not a success are out of tune with reality. GvK is the first BIG success in the pandemic world setting the pandemic box office record and HBOMAX record at that time.
Instead of crying foul on the movie when another movie succeeds we should be rooting on these films success in the world we’re in right now. Grow up.
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Let's seePkmatrix wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:02 amConsidering by my math the multiplier so far is 2.53x, they'd be talking out of their ass.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:34 pmSomeone is going to come in here talk about how bad the box office multiplier is watch.Cookson wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:30 pm Anyone calling GvK not a success are out of tune with reality. GvK is the first BIG success in the pandemic world setting the pandemic box office record and HBOMAX record at that time.
Instead of crying foul on the movie when another movie succeeds we should be rooting on these films success in the world we’re in right now. Grow up.
The current estimate 160 M budget
At 2.53, break even would be 404.8M. Current box office is 406.7M
So it's broke even there alone
That said
If Warner bros put up 100M for the streaming deal, that's a break even of 151.8M with over 200M profit.
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So much this! I'm really beginning to be REALLY fed up with the notion of how dumping on anything people like regardless if it's popular or not in such an d-bag manner is considered cool and smart because it's not. It does a lot more harm then good because it not only annoys the living heck out of people who just want to enjoy it in peace but it gives the very art of criticism a bad name. It's especially bad when some people try to use a movie's/shared universe's flaws as a way to justify the d-baggery and try to make the fans feel guilty and rotten for having a liking to it in the first place regardless of what strong points it also has. I know a lot of people online that do this and it's beyond insufferable.Cookson wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:30 pm Anyone calling GvK not a success are out of tune with reality. GvK is the first BIG success in the pandemic world setting the pandemic box office record and HBOMAX record at that time.
Instead of crying foul on the movie when another movie succeeds we should be rooting on these films success in the world we’re in right now. Grow up.
Like you said we should be mores supportive to certain fandoms that are truly having it great in recent times. The DCEU, Monsterverse, and Mortal Kombat groups especially with having each movie be a big hit for all of them. That's quite an impressive time to live in.
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Exactly!Pkmatrix wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:02 amConsidering by my math the multiplier so far is 2.53x, they'd be talking out of their ass.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:34 pmSomeone is going to come in here talk about how bad the box office multiplier is watch.Cookson wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:30 pm Anyone calling GvK not a success are out of tune with reality. GvK is the first BIG success in the pandemic world setting the pandemic box office record and HBOMAX record at that time.
Instead of crying foul on the movie when another movie succeeds we should be rooting on these films success in the world we’re in right now. Grow up.
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This. And this is also without counting the money they got out of the HBO Max deal.yogi bareass wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:23 amExactly!Pkmatrix wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:02 amConsidering by my math the multiplier so far is 2.53x, they'd be talking out of their ass.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:34 pm
Someone is going to come in here talk about how bad the box office multiplier is watch.
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If the box office was good enough for Legendary to be talking about a Son of Kong, then we know for quite a certainty that the box office performance of this film was great
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What is this multiplier number from? The pandemic has changed everything, with almost no long advertising runway or media like before. Huge difference this time.Pkmatrix wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:02 amConsidering by my math the multiplier so far is 2.53x, they'd be talking out of their ass.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:34 pmSomeone is going to come in here talk about how bad the box office multiplier is watch.Cookson wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:30 pm Anyone calling GvK not a success are out of tune with reality. GvK is the first BIG success in the pandemic world setting the pandemic box office record and HBOMAX record at that time.
Instead of crying foul on the movie when another movie succeeds we should be rooting on these films success in the world we’re in right now. Grow up.
This movie has made a lot of money and more are coming. No mention either of the HBO Max deal.
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Just the Worldwide box office divided by the production budget.plasmabeam wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:39 pmWhat is this multiplier number from? The pandemic has changed everything, with almost no long advertising runway or media like before. Huge difference this time.Pkmatrix wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:02 amConsidering by my math the multiplier so far is 2.53x, they'd be talking out of their ass.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:34 pm
Someone is going to come in here talk about how bad the box office multiplier is watch.
This movie has made a lot of money and more are coming. No mention either of the HBO Max deal.
And you're absolutely right! We're only bringing it up to point out how anybody attempting to claim the movie somehow "failed" by making that argument would be talking nonsense because even by that measure the movie was a success.
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The pandemic messed up the opportunity for the Monsterverse to hit 2 billion with 4 films. Looks like it’ll fall a bit short.
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I think the pandemic helped the Monsterverse, more than anything. I wonder if it would be as successful if people weren’t starved for new blockbusters?
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We get the base case scenario either way, this is a victory ladies and gentlemen.
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Godzilla vs. Kong's Japanese release date is going to be delayed. It was going to be released in a few weeks, but due to corona spiking in Japan (wouldn't it have been nice if we had vaccines...). They've declared states of emergency throughout Japan in big areas (Osaka, Tokyo etc...). Now it'll get pushed back. I hope it sort of has the effect of "hey people want to see a movie" after being stuck in doors for weeks of not doing much.
It's important because I could see it adding another 10 million to GvK's worldwide revenue and I feel like this is the Godzilla film to do well in Japan.
It's important because I could see it adding another 10 million to GvK's worldwide revenue and I feel like this is the Godzilla film to do well in Japan.
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I think you're right. People are going to badly want to see something escapist and GvK will be that movie.LSD Jellyfish wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:20 pm Godzilla vs. Kong's Japanese release date is going to be delayed. It was going to be released in a few weeks, but due to corona spiking in Japan (wouldn't it have been nice if we had vaccines...). They've declared states of emergency throughout Japan in big areas (Osaka, Tokyo etc...). Now it'll get pushed back. I hope it sort of has the effect of "hey people want to see a movie" after being stuck in doors for weeks of not doing much.
It's important because I could see it adding another 10 million to GvK's worldwide revenue and I feel like this is the Godzilla film to do well in Japan.
It's funny though. Japan: "State of Emergency!" Also Japan: "Let the Olympics begin!"