King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Olzh26 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:30 am

tyrantgoji wrote:
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Stump Feet wrote:No.

The Orca can be used on animals but not Ghidorah's call.

but leafwings responded to his call


but leifwings aren't really "normal" animals though.

they are simply ctenochasmatidae species

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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Stump Feet » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:31 am

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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Olzh26 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:34 am

in that case, how does the Ghidorah's call work? He deliberately gave orders only to the most deadly and dangerous creatures?

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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby tyrantgoji » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:41 am

Olzh26 wrote:in that case, how does the Ghidorah's call work? He deliberately gave orders only to the most deadly and dangerous creatures?


i mean...maybe. were not entirely to sure how things really work with Titans so it's a possible that could be the case.

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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Stump Feet » Sat Jul 27, 2019 11:51 am

He made a call to rally all the monsters on Earth, I'm not sure the Leafwings and Skull Crawlers are necessarily Titans, the Titans were just the most powerful creatures to act on the call
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Relair » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:26 am

Stump Feet wrote:He made a call to rally all the monsters on Earth, I'm not sure the Leafwings and Skull Crawlers are necessarily Titans, the Titans were just the most powerful creatures to act on the call


It did say KG's call got the Skullcrawlers to come out, that's why Kong stayed on the island, to beat them down and keep them from causing trouble. So I guess the leafwings heard it and just followed. I imagine only Titans and other smaller monsters could hear it and not regular animals, like it was a certain frequency or something. Like a dog whistle.

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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Olzh26 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:42 am

Relair wrote:
Stump Feet wrote:He made a call to rally all the monsters on Earth, I'm not sure the Leafwings and Skull Crawlers are necessarily Titans, the Titans were just the most powerful creatures to act on the call


It did say KG's call got the Skullcrawlers to come out, that's why Kong stayed on the island, to beat them down and keep them from causing trouble. So I guess the leafwings heard it and just followed. I imagine only Titans and other smaller monsters could hear it and not regular animals, like it was a certain frequency or something. Like a dog whistle.

But these monsters are not biologically related to each other in order to react equally to this frequency. But this moment hints that they are separated from ordinary animals. it bothers me
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby tyrantgoji » Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:53 am

...yeah the more i think about the titan pack and alpha thing,the more it seems like the writers didn't think it through all the way.

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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Olzh26 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:39 am

tyrantgoji wrote:...yeah the more i think about the titan pack and alpha thing,the more it seems like the writers didn't think it through all the way.

I once had a strange idea that pack of titans do not exist, and all this is ghidorah’s tricks with his
ability to control weaker creatures. he had a similar ability in old films. this is even indirectly confirmed by the words of the monarch's employees - “this explains how it affects other titans,” that is, in the MonsterVerse rials, the subordination of the titans to one another by the titans is not the norm. I hope that this will explain everything.
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Stump Feet » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:12 am

Relair wrote:
Stump Feet wrote:He made a call to rally all the monsters on Earth, I'm not sure the Leafwings and Skull Crawlers are necessarily Titans, the Titans were just the most powerful creatures to act on the call


It did say KG's call got the Skullcrawlers to come out, that's why Kong stayed on the island, to beat them down and keep them from causing trouble. So I guess the leafwings heard it and just followed. I imagine only Titans and other smaller monsters could hear it and not regular animals, like it was a certain frequency or something. Like a dog whistle.

Yeah that's what I said

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tyrantgoji wrote:...yeah the more i think about the titan pack and alpha thing,the more it seems like the writers didn't think it through all the way.

This is a giant monster movie, not to mention a Godzilla movie, if you're expecting scientific accuracy than you've come to the wrong place.

These films are all about suspension of disbelief, if a bunch of monsters following an alpha bothers you in a series about ghost robots, monster islands, and vore alians then these movies aren't for you.
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby tyrantgoji » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:32 am

Stump Feet wrote:
Relair wrote:
Stump Feet wrote:He made a call to rally all the monsters on Earth, I'm not sure the Leafwings and Skull Crawlers are necessarily Titans, the Titans were just the most powerful creatures to act on the call


It did say KG's call got the Skullcrawlers to come out, that's why Kong stayed on the island, to beat them down and keep them from causing trouble. So I guess the leafwings heard it and just followed. I imagine only Titans and other smaller monsters could hear it and not regular animals, like it was a certain frequency or something. Like a dog whistle.

Yeah that's what I said

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tyrantgoji wrote:...yeah the more i think about the titan pack and alpha thing,the more it seems like the writers didn't think it through all the way.

This is a giant monster movie, not to mention a Godzilla movie, if you're expecting scientific accuracy than you're not watching the right movies.

These movies are all about suspension of disbelief, if a bunch of monsters following following an alpha bothers you in a series about ghost robots, monster islands, and vore aliens then these movies aren't for you


pfft, vore aliens :lol: :lol:

in more serious manners though,suspension of disbelief is one thing,but don't make it confusing to the point your head starts to spin...or maybe it really is straightforward and i'm just dumb and can't see it.
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Olzh26 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:40 am

Stump Feet wrote:
Relair wrote:
Stump Feet wrote:He made a call to rally all the monsters on Earth, I'm not sure the Leafwings and Skull Crawlers are necessarily Titans, the Titans were just the most powerful creatures to act on the call


It did say KG's call got the Skullcrawlers to come out, that's why Kong stayed on the island, to beat them down and keep them from causing trouble. So I guess the leafwings heard it and just followed. I imagine only Titans and other smaller monsters could hear it and not regular animals, like it was a certain frequency or something. Like a dog whistle.

Yeah that's what I said

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tyrantgoji wrote:...yeah the more i think about the titan pack and alpha thing,the more it seems like the writers didn't think it through all the way.

This is a giant monster movie, not to mention a Godzilla movie, if you're expecting scientific accuracy than you're not watching the right movies.

These movies are all about suspension of disbelief, if a bunch of monsters following following an alpha bothers you in a series about ghost robots, monster islands, and vore alians then these movies aren't for you

the problem is not that it is unrealistic, but that it contradicts the laws of the first films, where the titans were connected by the most usual interspecific relations, and no pack was

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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Stump Feet » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:49 am

^ That definitely wasn't a "law in the first film", it wasn't even touched on in that movie my dude.

A lot of poop bothered me about this movie, but Ghidorah and the Titans wasn't one of them.

Seemed like an average crazy Godzilla movie thing to me.

In a series where Godzilla flies and plays soccer and volleyball, nothing really seems too out there anymore, in fact, a bunch of monsters following a leader makes a lot more sense than most I've seen out of this series
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Olzh26 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:12 am

Stump Feet wrote:^ That definitely wasn't a "law in the first film", it wasn't even touched on in that movie my dude.

A lot of poop bothered me about this movie, but Ghidorah and the Titans wasn't one of them.

Seemed like an average crazy Godzilla movie thing to me.

In a series where Godzilla flies and plays soccer and volleyball, nothing really seems too out there anymore, in fact, a bunch of monsters following a leader makes a lot more sense than most I've seen out of this series

1) In this case, in the 2014 film, Muto had to bow to Godzilla after his clear advantage over the muto in terms of strength, which he demonstrated even in Hawaii my dude

2) right now we are talking specifically about MonsterVese, and not about the whole series as a whole.
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Stump Feet » Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:19 am

The MUTO's already knew they both existed by the time they awaken in G14 so why would they bow to Godzilla when they were looking to procreate, my dude?

The MUTO in GKOTM is a lone female without a mate, there's absolutely no reason to fight Godzilla as her primary function of being a threat to him has been stripped away
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Olzh26 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:29 am

Stump Feet wrote:The MUTO's already knew they both existed by the time they awaken in G14 so why would they bow to Godzilla when they were looking to procreate, my dude?

The MUTO in GKOTM is a lone female without a mate, there's absolutely no reason to fight Godzilla as her primary function of being a threat to him has been stripped away

What about shinamuro? And yes, even after the death of the male, the female did not obey Godzilla and still resisted.

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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Stump Feet » Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:43 am

I don't know what the Shinomura has to do with anything :lol:

And I'm sure it could be argued the Female wasn't even aware of the Male's demise as she had already quit her fight with Godzilla at that point and went after the military instead.

After all the poop those monsters put each other through, neither of them were going to spare the other, MUTO 3 in KOTM is just a female unable to breed, she's basically a neutered animal, she poses no threat whatsoever. If she attacked him I'm sure he'd have no trouble dispatching her, but instead she played it safe and bowed.
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Destoroyah of Worlds » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:37 am

Olzh26 wrote:
Stump Feet wrote:The MUTO's already knew they both existed by the time they awaken in G14 so why would they bow to Godzilla when they were looking to procreate, my dude?

The MUTO in GKOTM is a lone female without a mate, there's absolutely no reason to fight Godzilla as her primary function of being a threat to him has been stripped away

What about shinamuro? And yes, even after the death of the male, the female did not obey Godzilla and still resisted.

That muto was a skreeonk.

Seriously though. I've seen mother cats aggressively attack dogs to protect their young. Or if they happened to intrude on where their offspring are. Seems she was acting out of a maternal instinct and eventually self defense.
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:44 pm

Surprised no one brought up that the Kong perspective chapter confirms Kong might have PTSD, he has nightmares about the Skullcralwers.
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Re: King of the Monsters: Film vs Novelization Differences

Postby Stump Feet » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:48 pm

Living Corpse wrote:Surprised no one brought up that the Kong perspective chapter confirms Kong might have PTSD, he has nightmares about the Skullcralwers.

How so?
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