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Re: Godzilla vs Kong Rumor Thread (SPOILERS)

Postby Ryguy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:53 am

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Ryguy wrote:Yeah, uh I'm pretty sure this movie is going to get its asshole torn inside out if they do anything but Godzilla fighting Kong. No Rodan, no Ghidorah, no giant skullcrawler, etc etc etc. Seriously what's the problem with just that? There's no reason or truly logical way to go any bigger than what happened in KotM: everybody keeps living by this ridiculous philosophy that "ehhh every new movie HAS to be bigger and bolder and more batshit crazy than the last one or else it's going to bomb", which is complete nonsense.

Case-in-point, Logan is a farrrrr better movie than pretty much every other Fox superhero movie, despite the fact that it was the most contained (actually, it's the only one I truly enjoy). Same with Winter Soldier, Civil War, and the first Iron Man. KotM gave us something huge, now how about we just see Godzilla fighting Kong? I know pretty much everybody here hates me now for a multitude of reasons but I'm just speaking the truth: most of your ridiculous wet dreams will never make a better movie than just Godzilla fighting Kong. This is like if Civil War decided to introduce Doctor Doom or something.

And all of these ideas about some uber-powerful planet-destroying Hedorah, Destoroyah, SpaceGodzilla, or planet-sized Biollante make me cringe. There is no reason or real solid way to go any larger than King skreeonking Ghidorah whose presence alone made for a better apocalypse movie than the entirety of Roland Emmerich's 2012 (which is one of the worst sci-fi movies I've ever watched, but it just came to mind as an example).

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but Godzilla and Kong lone would just be boring.

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Jesus Christ am I happy that the fans aren't writing these movies... Even Tommy Wiseau could write something less cringe than 95% of the ideas that I see thrown around the Godzilla fanbase
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Re: Godzilla vs Kong Rumor Thread (SPOILERS)

Postby tyrantgoji » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:41 pm

Ryguy wrote:
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Ryguy wrote:Yeah, uh I'm pretty sure this movie is going to get its asshole torn inside out if they do anything but Godzilla fighting Kong. No Rodan, no Ghidorah, no giant skullcrawler, etc etc etc. Seriously what's the problem with just that? There's no reason or truly logical way to go any bigger than what happened in KotM: everybody keeps living by this ridiculous philosophy that "ehhh every new movie HAS to be bigger and bolder and more batshit crazy than the last one or else it's going to bomb", which is complete nonsense.

Case-in-point, Logan is a farrrrr better movie than pretty much every other Fox superhero movie, despite the fact that it was the most contained (actually, it's the only one I truly enjoy). Same with Winter Soldier, Civil War, and the first Iron Man. KotM gave us something huge, now how about we just see Godzilla fighting Kong? I know pretty much everybody here hates me now for a multitude of reasons but I'm just speaking the truth: most of your ridiculous wet dreams will never make a better movie than just Godzilla fighting Kong. This is like if Civil War decided to introduce Doctor Doom or something.

And all of these ideas about some uber-powerful planet-destroying Hedorah, Destoroyah, SpaceGodzilla, or planet-sized Biollante make me cringe. There is no reason or real solid way to go any larger than King skreeonking Ghidorah whose presence alone made for a better apocalypse movie than the entirety of Roland Emmerich's 2012 (which is one of the worst sci-fi movies I've ever watched, but it just came to mind as an example).

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And no, jnavs, this isn't directed towards you. 95% of the users here share the same odd coke-induced ideas


but Godzilla and Kong lone would just be boring.

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Jesus Christ am I happy that the fans aren't writing these movies... Even Tommy Wiseau could write something less cringe than 95% of the ideas that I see thrown around the Godzilla fanbase


y'know, you could have just respectfully disagreed and not insult me, even though i was being pretty nice to you.

whatever, your gonna be second on my foe list to Grievous of all people. i will not miss you. tata!

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Re: Godzilla vs Kong Rumor Thread (SPOILERS)

Postby Godzilla21 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:50 pm

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y'know, you could have just respectfully disagreed and not insult me, even though i was being pretty nice to you.

whatever, your gonna be second on my foe list to Grievous of all people. i will not miss you. tata!


I didn't think he insulted you. But hey, what do I know.

Is a Tommy Wiseau movie that bad an idea?
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Postby _JNavs_ » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:55 pm

"I'm glad fans aren't writing these movies" except they are 95% of the time.
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Re: Godzilla vs Kong Rumor Thread (SPOILERS)

Postby tyrantgoji » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:58 pm

Godzilla21 wrote:
tyrantgoji wrote:
y'know, you could have just respectfully disagreed and not insult me, even though i was being pretty nice to you.

whatever, your gonna be second on my foe list to Grievous of all people. i will not miss you. tata!


I didn't think he insulted you. But hey, what do I know.

Is a Tommy Wiseau movie that bad an idea?


saying "what planet are you from" seems like an insult to me. But i don't wanna split hairs.

Though Tommy Wiseau Godzilla is an interesting thought no doubt! :P

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Postby Living Corpse » Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:59 pm

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Jesus Christ am I happy that the fans aren't writing these movies...


They are.

They're just not TK members.

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y'know, you could have just respectfully disagreed and not insult me, even though i was being pretty nice to you.

whatever, your gonna be second on my foe list to Grievous of all people. i will not miss you. tata!


I didn't think he insulted you. But hey, what do I know.

Is a Tommy Wiseau movie that bad an idea?


saying "what planet are you from" seems like an insult to me. But i don't wanna split hairs.

Though Tommy Wiseau Godzilla is an interesting thought no doubt! :P


Yeah that was pretty rude.
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Re: Godzilla vs Kong Rumor Thread (SPOILERS)

Postby Godzilla21 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:15 pm

tyrantgoji wrote:saying "what planet are you from" seems like an insult to me. But i don't wanna split hairs.

Though Tommy Wiseau Godzilla is an interesting thought no doubt! :P


Well I would just laugh it off if someone said what planet are you from. Its not like he called you asshole or a fuckstick. That might be a little insulting. But I guess our mileage varies on sensitivity to forum language.

And yes Tommy Wiseau. Lets make this happen
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Re: Godzilla vs Kong Rumor Thread (SPOILERS)

Postby Ryguy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:46 pm

It's not an insult.

It's a general statement that I have no idea why the skreeonk any kaiju fan would somehow think a big-budget Hollywood movie with just Godzilla and King Kong, the two most famous movie monsters of all time, is in any way boring. And why so many fans feel the need to keep adding-on a bunch of other unnecessary BS like the other titans egging-on fights (similar to the beach scene in the 1984 Karate Kid) which will only bloat the plot in a movie which should have otherwise just been Godzilla fighting Kong.

Like, I can't even.
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Re: Godzilla vs Kong Rumor Thread (SPOILERS)

Postby tyrantgoji » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:49 pm

Ryguy wrote:It's not an insult.

It's a general statement that I have no idea why the skreeonk any kaiju fan would somehow think a big-budget Hollywood movie with just Godzilla and King Kong, the two most famous movie monsters of all time, is in any way boring. And why so many fans feel the need to keep adding-on a bunch of other unnecessary BS like the other titans egging-on fights (similar to the beach scene in the 1984 Karate Kid) which will only bloat the plot in a movie which should have otherwise just been Godzilla fighting Kong.

Like, I can't even.
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okay, i admit that i kinda jumped the gun on that, i apologize. i'll also take you off my foe list.

still think it's best we keep away from each other in case something like this happens again.

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Postby _JNavs_ » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:52 pm

Because the way KOTM ended clearly implies more than just Kong and Godzilla will be in, as well as affect, the plot.
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Postby Ryguy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:08 pm

As long as the climax and main plot is just Godzilla fighting Kong with no teamups while not becoming too stupid and cheesy, fine. I don't mind more titans in the movie, but I don't want anything too stupid like Godzilla and Kong leading titans into battle like Captain America and Thanos. Or titans sitting back watching the fights like the citizens watching the final battle of Spiderman 3 which still hurts to watch to this day because of how dumb and cringe it is.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that this movie will have Spiderman 3 levels of cringe and ridiculousness in it. I don't know why, but I'm getting this bad feeling. Like I'm talking full-on emo Peter Parker and "stupid people portrayed by awful actors watching the fights" levels of cringe. I hope I'm wrong.
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Postby tyrantgoji » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:23 pm

Ryguy wrote:As long as the climax and main plot is just Godzilla fighting Kong with no teamups while not becoming too stupid and cheesy, fine. I don't mind more titans in the movie, but I don't want anything too stupid like Godzilla and Kong leading titans into battle like Captain America and Thanos. Or titans sitting back watching the fights like the citizens watching the final battle of Spiderman 3 which still hurts to watch to this day because of how dumb and cringe it is.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that this movie will have Spiderman 3 levels of cringe and ridiculousness in it. I don't know why, but I'm getting this bad feeling. Like I'm talking full-on emo Peter Parker and "stupid people portrayed by awful actors watching the fights" levels of cringe. I hope I'm wrong.


yeah i can kinda understand things like that. i'm expecting some cheesy things but to much of it could soil the film. same reason why a lotta people don't like Final Wars.

Come to think about it, wonder if some people got turned off from KOTM because they thought it was to cheesy.

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Postby Hokmuto » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:32 pm

tyrantgoji wrote:
Ryguy wrote:As long as the climax and main plot is just Godzilla fighting Kong with no teamups while not becoming too stupid and cheesy, fine. I don't mind more titans in the movie, but I don't want anything too stupid like Godzilla and Kong leading titans into battle like Captain America and Thanos. Or titans sitting back watching the fights like the citizens watching the final battle of Spiderman 3 which still hurts to watch to this day because of how dumb and cringe it is.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that this movie will have Spiderman 3 levels of cringe and ridiculousness in it. I don't know why, but I'm getting this bad feeling. Like I'm talking full-on emo Peter Parker and "stupid people portrayed by awful actors watching the fights" levels of cringe. I hope I'm wrong.


yeah i can kinda understand things like that. i'm expecting some cheesy things but to much of it could soil the film. same reason why a lotta people don't like Final Wars.

Come to think about it, wonder if some people got turned off from KOTM because they thought it was to cheesy.

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Postby tyrantgoji » Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:47 pm

Hokmuto wrote:
tyrantgoji wrote:
Ryguy wrote:As long as the climax and main plot is just Godzilla fighting Kong with no teamups while not becoming too stupid and cheesy, fine. I don't mind more titans in the movie, but I don't want anything too stupid like Godzilla and Kong leading titans into battle like Captain America and Thanos. Or titans sitting back watching the fights like the citizens watching the final battle of Spiderman 3 which still hurts to watch to this day because of how dumb and cringe it is.

But I have a sneaking suspicion that this movie will have Spiderman 3 levels of cringe and ridiculousness in it. I don't know why, but I'm getting this bad feeling. Like I'm talking full-on emo Peter Parker and "stupid people portrayed by awful actors watching the fights" levels of cringe. I hope I'm wrong.


yeah i can kinda understand things like that. i'm expecting some cheesy things but to much of it could soil the film. same reason why a lotta people don't like Final Wars.

Come to think about it, wonder if some people got turned off from KOTM because they thought it was to cheesy.

My god....zilla. Sorry, I read that in a fortune cookie.

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yeah that was pretty stupid not gonna lie.
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Postby Godzilla122 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:23 pm

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Just a couple of questions if possible. MechaGodzilla...is modeled after the Legendary Godzilla? Seems obvious but I'm curious nonetheless.
Any changes in Godzilla's design? Any other Toho kaijus?
The MG bit has me excited. Huge if true, as they say.

Godzilla's design follows kotm, with little change. Mg has some Godzilla characteristics, but the overall feeling is quite different.
After Kotm was released, I might try to draw it, just like the Titans I painted before.

I'm waiting.

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Postby miguelnuva » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:03 pm

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SAYAKA wrote:
keizerkaiju wrote:Thanks, SAYAKA. I was skeptical at first but then I did my homework and it seems you're trustworthy indeed.
Just a couple of questions if possible. MechaGodzilla...is modeled after the Legendary Godzilla? Seems obvious but I'm curious nonetheless.
Any changes in Godzilla's design? Any other Toho kaijus?
The MG bit has me excited. Huge if true, as they say.

Godzilla's design follows kotm, with little change. Mg has some Godzilla characteristics, but the overall feeling is quite different.
After Kotm was released, I might try to draw it, just like the Titans I painted before.

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Postby SaiyanRider54 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:21 pm

Ryguy wrote: I don't mind more titans in the movie, but I don't want anything too stupid like Godzilla and Kong leading titans into battle like Captain America and Thanos.


How is this any different than Ghidorah and Rodan vs Godzilla and Mothra? It’s already been established that titans pick and choose their Alpha and will follow them into battle. GvK is being set up as another battle of alpha titans as hinted in the credits of KotM. So it’s not unreasonable to see a similar thing play out on a larger scale now that all the titans are awake. Honestly don’t know what else the two would be fighting over if not the title as King over the other titans.

I also remember this forum reeeing about how cringe the bowing sequence was gonna be when the leaks came out and now it’s one of the most epic scenes in the franchise (imo). I doubt cringe is gonna be an issue here.

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Postby Thunderbird » Tue Jun 25, 2019 8:37 pm

SaiyanRider54 wrote:I also remember this forum reeeing about how cringe the bowing sequence was gonna be when the leaks came out and now it’s one of the most epic scenes in the franchise (imo). I doubt cringe is gonna be an issue here.


This.

And I doubt that anyone who is overly concerned with avoiding cringe moments in the first place is even capable of producing highbrow content using sci-fi, fantasy and comic book tropes at all. I would love to see cringe-free examples of those genres if anyone can point them out.

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Re: Godzilla vs Kong Rumor Thread (SPOILERS)

Postby LockBite » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:15 am

When it comes to whether Godzilla or Kong will win, consider the allegiance of the two in the 1962 original. Kong was a basically-decent creature that just wanted to be left alone, and Godzilla was a massive jerk that likes to destroy buildings; a more comical version of his previous two portrayals. Godzilla was the villain of this movie, and while Kong wasn’t a saint himself, the filmmakers clearly intended audiences to be on Team Ape.

This universe has a different paradigm going on. Kong is largely the same, but now Godzilla is much closer to a hero than a villain. We are reminded several times that he’s not in it for the humans so much as the balance of nature, but that just makes him MORE similar to Kong. I think we can expect Godzilla to lash out at humanity based on what’s conveyed in KOTM, but that’s exactly what Kong did when his Island was bombed. If Godzilla is to stay in character, there’s going to be some kind of limit to just how much carnage he chooses to cause- let’s remember the newspaper clipping about him keeping the Titans from killing people. So maybe Godzilla will be more villainous for GvK, but his own history as a character this time around makes it very unlikely, imo, that he will be the one we’re supposed to root against for the whole movie. All this is why I really don’t think Godzilla or Kong will be beaten and then that’s the end of the movie. They simply cannot make either one villainous enough for the role, not without it feeling awkward and against character. So there has to be some kind of greater threat, and I believe this is already hinted at by the “human conspiracy” mentioned in the synopsis.
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