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GojiDog wrote:If they had done the 3v1, I personally would have felt like it was too similar to Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster.

I liked what they did with Rodan as they showed off his destructive power, and used him to highlight the social dynamics among the monsters.

Also we got Rodan Vs. Mothra for the first time ever. That's kind of amazing that they never really fought each other before this film. The closest we ever got was Mothra Larva webbing Rodan to get him to stop fighting Godzilla in Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster. So to finally see them clash in this movie was a bit of a treat for me.
Yeah same. Although I wish there was more of it, what we did see of the Rodan/Mothra fight was hella cool. The Eagle like aerial strikes he displayed there and in the Ghidorah fight before were a nice touch.

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GojiDog wrote:If they had done the 3v1, I personally would have felt like it was too similar to Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster.

I liked what they did with Rodan as they showed off his destructive power, and used him to highlight the social dynamics among the monsters.

Also we got Rodan Vs. Mothra for the first time ever. That's kind of amazing that they never really fought each other before this film. The closest we ever got was Mothra Larva webbing Rodan to get him to stop fighting Godzilla in Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster. So to finally see them clash in this movie was a bit of a treat for me.
Yeah same. Although I wish there was more of it, what we did see of the Rodan/Mothra fight was hella cool. The Eagle like aerial strikes he displayed there and in the Ghidorah fight before were a nice touch.
Thanks to the CG, Rodan really showed his prowess in an aerial battle this time around. Rodan and Mothra also moved at super fast speeds, way faster than the flying MUTO from 14 IMO.

Still, in my idea, he would be unbrainwashed by Mothra and wake up in time to go for a 3v1 which would also kinda work (it's just a small part for my whole idea which i might post later or maybe write a fic about. It involves a 3 way between Goji, Rodan and Ghiddy too).
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GojiDog wrote:If they had done the 3v1, I personally would have felt like it was too similar to Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster.

I liked what they did with Rodan as they showed off his destructive power, and used him to highlight the social dynamics among the monsters.

Also we got Rodan Vs. Mothra for the first time ever. That's kind of amazing that they never really fought each other before this film. The closest we ever got was Mothra Larva webbing Rodan to get him to stop fighting Godzilla in Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster. So to finally see them clash in this movie was a bit of a treat for me.
Yeah same. Although I wish there was more of it, what we did see of the Rodan/Mothra fight was hella cool. The Eagle like aerial strikes he displayed there and in the Ghidorah fight before were a nice touch.
Thanks to the CG, Rodan really showed his prowess in an aerial battle this time around. Rodan and Mothra also moved at super fast speeds, way faster than the flying MUTO from 14 IMO.

Still, in my idea, he would be unbrainwashed by Mothra and wake up in time to go for a 3v1 which would also kinda work (it's just a small part for my whole idea which i might post later or maybe write a fic about. It involves a 3 way between Goji, Rodan and Ghiddy too).
Yeah that's how I feel as well. His aerial manuevours against the "Raptor" Ospreys in Mexico were pretty damn epic. My favorite moments are probably when he simultaneously causes several of them to explode by closing his wings like a torpedo, and then his "barrel roll" coupled with snatching the jets. The movie really did justice to his key abilities of speed and agility in the air imo.

But yeah, I agree that even though I actually liked his portrayal in the movie, it would have been awesome to see Rodan realize that Ghidorah is the actual threat, and "redeem" himself in a way by joining Godzilla and Mothra against him. Would have definitely given his character more to go for personality wise. Your idea sounds rather cool.
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GojiDog wrote:If they had done the 3v1, I personally would have felt like it was too similar to Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster.
Then by extension the 1v1 fight we got is too similar to GvKG 91. Heck, if Godzilla vs Kong doesn’t have them team up in the end it will feel too similar to Kong vs Godzilla 1962. We’ve had 30 movies, at this point it’s almost impossible not to have some similarities. As long as the fight didn’t play out frame for frame the same as GTTHM, a 3 v 1 would’ve been fine. I like the idea I’ve seen where we still get Mothra vs. Rodan, then after getting beat by Mothra Rodan joins the fight against Ghidorah as a tie breaker. That would shake things up enough.

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I was a little sad that we didn't get Godzilla vs. Rodan but I really appreciate how well they did Godzilla vs. Ghidorah. I mean I thought it did Ghidorah justice in being so tough and dangerous. I love that he's in charge and not under control of Emma and Jonah.

I'm sure 3 to 1 would have been very fun but it seems like it's been a while since we had a two vs two. Well okay it was more like two battles side by side than say Godzilla and Jet vs. Gigan and Megalon. I love Mothra vs. Rodan so I was happy with the handling of all the monsters. I do want to see Rodan win a fight though.

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daveblackeye15 wrote:I was a little sad that we didn't get Godzilla vs. Rodan but I really appreciate how well they did Godzilla vs. Ghidorah. I mean I thought it did Ghidorah justice in being so tough and dangerous. I love that he's in charge and not under control of Emma and Jonah.

I'm sure 3 to 1 would have been very fun but it seems like it's been a while since we had a two vs two. Well okay it was more like two battles side by side than say Godzilla and Jet vs. Gigan and Megalon. I love Mothra vs. Rodan so I was happy with the handling of all the monsters. I do want to see Rodan win a fight though.
This. After several movies playing on this very concept, it was fantastic to see a truly evil and destructive Ghidorah that isn't someone's mind-controlled b*tch.
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GuardianGhido wrote:
Dv-218 wrote:
GojiDog wrote:If they had done the 3v1, I personally would have felt like it was too similar to Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster.

I liked what they did with Rodan as they showed off his destructive power, and used him to highlight the social dynamics among the monsters.

Also we got Rodan Vs. Mothra for the first time ever. That's kind of amazing that they never really fought each other before this film. The closest we ever got was Mothra Larva webbing Rodan to get him to stop fighting Godzilla in Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster. So to finally see them clash in this movie was a bit of a treat for me.
Yeah same. Although I wish there was more of it, what we did see of the Rodan/Mothra fight was hella cool. The Eagle like aerial strikes he displayed there and in the Ghidorah fight before were a nice touch.
Thanks to the CG, Rodan really showed his prowess in an aerial battle this time around. Rodan and Mothra also moved at super fast speeds, way faster than the flying MUTO from 14 IMO.

Still, in my idea, he would be unbrainwashed by Mothra and wake up in time to go for a 3v1 which would also kinda work (it's just a small part for my whole idea which i might post later or maybe write a fic about. It involves a 3 way between Goji, Rodan and Ghiddy too).
I definitely agree with your latter point. I think something I wanted even more than that was Godzilla fighting Rodan. So, that was a bit disappointing
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I would have liked to see something more like a 3 vs 1 battle initially, and as the battle progressed, Mothra gets taken out of the fight temporarily. Godzilla and Rodan then try their best against Ghidorah until Rodan is eventually beaten temporarily. Godzilla then takes Ghidorah on by himself, starts to falter, and then Mothra can do her sacrifice as seen in the film. Rodan resurfaces and helps a super charged Godzilla finish off Ghidorah. I think that, with some polish, would've satisfied a good number of viewers. This would also extend the final battle.

In combination with using the Antarctica battle as a way to knock Godzilla out instead of the Oxygen Destroyer, and with Ghidorah destruction scenes, this could knock down the pacing to something more comfortable, and add needed plot significance to Rodan.
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And now for something completely different:

This movie made one hell of a first impression with that intro though. No opening credits, but those THEATER SHAKING STOMPS AND SIGNATURE ROAR!! That was CHILLING!
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Makes me wish I could experience Gojira in the theater with the opening steps.

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GuardianGhido wrote:And now for something completely different:

This movie made one hell of a first impression with that intro though. No opening credits, but those THEATER SHAKING STOMPS AND SIGNATURE ROAR!! That was CHILLING!
I know right? The Babylonian/Sumerian styled logo carvings coupled with the classic "stomp, stomp, skreeonk" opening legit gave me goosebumps.
The eerie aura of the SF flashback was hella cool too.
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I think someone may have pointed this out but evidently Scylla is somehow able to reverse icecaps melting in Antarctica; does she have ice powers that we never saw or something?
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A curious question to you all? How would you have liked the movie if it was King Ghidorah sending monsters to fight Godzilla and defeating them until finally facing King Ghidorah for said title?

Better, as good or worst?

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G2000 wrote:I think someone may have pointed this out but evidently Scylla is somehow able to reverse icecaps melting in Antarctica; does she have ice powers that we never saw or something?
and Behemoth somehow can grow trees just by walking around. i wonder how the Titans do those kinda things...

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GodzillaFan1990's wrote:A curious question to you all? How would you have liked the movie if it was King Ghidorah sending monsters to fight Godzilla and defeating them until finally facing King Ghidorah for said title?

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eh, i don't think it would be much good. we've seen Godzilla run a "Kaiju Gauntlet before facing the final boss" idea in Final Wars so i feel it would just be a rehash.
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G2000 wrote:I think someone may have pointed this out but evidently Scylla is somehow able to reverse icecaps melting in Antarctica; does she have ice powers that we never saw or something?
That's actually something I wondered about during the credits of my 2nd viewing. Like, how does she do that? Does her body radiate cold fluids in some way and cools off the surrounding area, or does she literally have an ability to generate ice naturally using water? While it probably won't, but it would be cool to see it expanded upon in a profile (no pun intended lol :lol: ).
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G2000 wrote:I think someone may have pointed this out but evidently Scylla is somehow able to reverse icecaps melting in Antarctica; does she have ice powers that we never saw or something?
That's actually something I wondered about during the credits of my 2nd viewing. Like, how does she do that? Does her body radiate cold fluids in some way and cools off the surrounding area, or does she literally have an ability to generate ice naturally using water? While it probably won't, but it would be cool to see it expanded upon in a profile (no pun intended lol :lol: ).
Maybe her ink is at freezing temperature?

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tyrantgoji wrote:and Behemoth somehow can grow trees just by walking around. i wonder how the Titans do those kinda things...
Didn't I hear that's through its feces it drops which fertilizes ground whenever it drops?
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G2000 wrote:I think someone may have pointed this out but evidently Scylla is somehow able to reverse icecaps melting in Antarctica; does she have ice powers that we never saw or something?
That's actually something I wondered about during the credits of my 2nd viewing. Like, how does she do that? Does her body radiate cold fluids in some way and cools off the surrounding area, or does she literally have an ability to generate ice naturally using water? While it probably won't, but it would be cool to see it expanded upon in a profile (no pun intended lol :lol: ).
Maybe her ink is at freezing temperature?
Ooh that's a good explanation. Makes sense with her cephalopod like nature.

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tyrantgoji wrote:and Behemoth somehow can grow trees just by walking around. i wonder how the Titans do those kinda things...
Didn't I hear that's through its feces it drops which fertilizes ground whenever it drops?
Yeah, the credits imply that Titan excrements are basically natural fertilizers, causing massive plant growth burts- that's how Behemoth's activity practically restored large portions of the amazon rainforest. Basically, a gigantic scale version of how Elephant sh*t helps plant growth in the African savannah.

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Dv-218 wrote:

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tyrantgoji wrote:and Behemoth somehow can grow trees just by walking around. i wonder how the Titans do those kinda things...
Didn't I hear that's through its feces it drops which fertilizes ground whenever it drops?
Yeah, the credits imply that Titan excrements are basically natural fertilizers, causing massive plant growth burts- that's how Behemoth's activity practically restored large portions of the amazon rainforest. Basically, a gigantic scale version of how Elephant sh*t helps plant growth in the African savannah.
oh, that makes sense... it's gross but it makes sense!
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I've been reading bits of the art book and I'm disappointed Dr. Chen didn't get an entry. I mean Sam gets one, sure paired up with Rick, and Dr. Graham got paired up with Serisaw but I don't see in the entry list anything for Dr. Chen. Oh well. I figured she'd get one sooner than Sam.

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