Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby Gerdzerl » Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:59 pm

I'm almost certain he won't appear in the MonsterVerse, but I'd die of happiness if he was.

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby LockBite » Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:28 am

Living Corpse wrote:
LockBite wrote:Gamera's flying ability makes him too silly for this universe. And removing it would be heresy.


Right, cause a golden space hydra and moth goddess are grounded. :lol:

Infinitely more so than rocket thrusters that replace legs on a biological animal. Cmon.

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

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Living Corpse wrote:
LockBite wrote:Gamera's flying ability makes him too silly for this universe. And removing it would be heresy.


Right, cause a golden space hydra and moth goddess are grounded. :lol:

Infinitely more so than rocket thrusters that replace legs on a biological animal. Cmon.

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby Destorogoji » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:06 am

LockBite wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:
LockBite wrote:Gamera's flying ability makes him too silly for this universe. And removing it would be heresy.


Right, cause a golden space hydra and moth goddess are grounded. :lol:

Infinitely more so than rocket thrusters that replace legs on a biological animal. Cmon.

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby SenseiTeriyakiV » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:07 am

Destorogoji wrote:
LockBite wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:
Right, cause a golden space hydra and moth goddess are grounded. :lol:

Infinitely more so than rocket thrusters that replace legs on a biological animal. Cmon.

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1. Still biological. Still an animal. Even if he was created.

2. That just makes it even MORE unrealistic.

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby Gerdzerl » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:31 am

I'd honestly be all for Legendary abandoning realism in the MonsterVerse in favor of making fun movies if it meant we could have things like Gamera.

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby SenseiTeriyakiV » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:37 am

Gerdzerl wrote:I'd honestly be all for Legendary abandoning realism in the MonsterVerse in favor of making fun movies if it meant we could have things like Gamera.

I'd rather have gamera in the shin godzilla universe if anything. All the established kaiju so far wouldn't stand a chance against a rocket powered flying saucer turtle.

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:42 am

Gerdzerl wrote:I'd honestly be all for Legendary abandoning realism in the MonsterVerse in favor of making fun movies if it meant we could have things like Gamera.

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby Destorogoji » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:49 am

I think people has a wrong concept about the realism in the Monsterverse. It's not about the kaiju, but about the people, and how they would react to the arrival of giant monsters in a "realistic" setting. We already have "parasites" capable of generate supposed EMP's; a giant amphibian who feeds on radiation and spits blue energy beams; part plant, part animal creatures; a giant bipedal hominid; and we will see a giant goddess moth; a giant pterosaur and a three headed golden dragon who shoots rays and is (supposedly) able to do interplanetary travel.
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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:50 am

Destorogoji wrote:I think people has a wrong concept about the realism in the Monsterverse. It's not about the kaiju, but about the people, and how they would react to the arrival of giant monsters in a "realistic" setting. We already have "parasites" capable of generate supposed EMP's; a giant amphibian who feeds on radiation and spits blue energy beams; part plant, part animal creatures; a giant bipedal hominid; and we will see a giant goddess moth; a giant pterosaur and a three headed golden dragon who shoots rays and is (supposedly) able to do interplanetary travel.

That's what I was gonna say but after having saying it so many times not getting through people I didn't bother. :lol:

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby Hokmuto » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:36 pm

Destorogoji wrote:I think people has a wrong concept about the realism in the Monsterverse. It's not about the kaiju, but about the people, and how they would react to the arrival of giant monsters in a "realistic" setting. We already have "parasites" capable of generate supposed EMP's; a giant amphibian who feeds on radiation and spits blue energy beams; part plant, part animal creatures; a giant bipedal hominid; and we will see a giant goddess moth; a giant pterosaur and a three headed golden dragon who shoots rays and is (supposedly) able to do interplanetary travel.


If it is not about the kaiju being realistic, then why does Godzilla have stump feet? Why does Godzilla have gills?
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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby Gerdzerl » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:44 pm

Regardless, people reacting "realistically" should be a much bigger priority than making the kaiju themselves being "realistic". The MonsterVerse should be no more "realistic" or "believable" than the MCU or the Showa series.

I mean, c'mon now, we have literally an implied hollow-earth of all things in the MonsterVerse. Legendary should do anything but commit to "realism".

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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby Destorogoji » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:18 pm

Hokmuto wrote:
Destorogoji wrote:I think people has a wrong concept about the realism in the Monsterverse. It's not about the kaiju, but about the people, and how they would react to the arrival of giant monsters in a "realistic" setting. We already have "parasites" capable of generate supposed EMP's; a giant amphibian who feeds on radiation and spits blue energy beams; part plant, part animal creatures; a giant bipedal hominid; and we will see a giant goddess moth; a giant pterosaur and a three headed golden dragon who shoots rays and is (supposedly) able to do interplanetary travel.


If it is not about the kaiju being realistic, then why does Godzilla have stump feet? Why does Godzilla have gills?

Design choices. A lot of the artwork for Godzilla illustrates him in different ways, like a giant T-Rex with spines, and even a modernized Heisei design.
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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby GoWhaleTours » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:34 pm

If I had a dollar for everytime someone said, "It's realistic cuz how humanz react", I could purchase my own kaiju. Its bullshit. These movies are packed to the gills(pun intended) with design modifications, [some] realistic explanations, and research. These films are not exclusively realistic in the way society reacts to monsters, but also the origin and science of the monsters as well. For example, the elephant feet and gills on Godzilla, as Hokmuto mentioned.
Its late and i'm tired so I don't have many examples, but the film-makers take realism into consideration on a level other than just human response.

Back on topic, I'm sure you could include Gamera in the monsterverse with either removing his crazy abilities or adding some intelligent origin for them. If Godzilla can expel the radiation within him through atomic breath, It's not much of a stretch that gamera could do so through another orifice on his body. Perhaps strech the suspension of disbelief and have it be some kind of chemical reaction inside his body.
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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby Hokmuto » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:02 pm

GoWhaleTours wrote:If I had a dollar for everytime someone said, "It's realistic cuz how humanz react", I could purchase my own kaiju. Its bullshit. These movies are packed to the gills(pun intended) with design modifications, [some] realistic explanations, and research. These films are not exclusively realistic in the way society reacts to monsters, but also the origin and science of the monsters as well. For example, the elephant feet and gills on Godzilla, as Hokmuto mentioned.
Its late and i'm tired so I don't have many examples, but the film-makers take realism into consideration on a level other than just human response.

Back on topic, I'm sure you could include Gamera in the monsterverse with either removing his crazy abilities or adding some intelligent origin for them. If Godzilla can expel the radiation within him through atomic breath, It's not much of a stretch that gamera could do so through another orifice on his body. Perhaps strech the suspension of disbelief and have it be some kind of chemical reaction inside his body.


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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby KingZillla » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:29 pm

No. Gamera will never come to the Monsterverse. He doesn't fit at all with the grounded vision that the MV has established with Godzilla & King Kong
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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby BARAGONBREH » Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:59 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
LockBite wrote:Gamera's flying ability makes him too silly for this universe. And removing it would be heresy.


Right, cause a golden space hydra and moth goddess are grounded. :lol:


1. Considering how little we know about space, it's at least not completely inconceivable, unlike rocket-boosted turtle. Plus, it has the potential to look cool rather than stupid. Unlike rocket-boosted turtle.

2. Who says Mothra will actually be a literal "goddess" in this film? Seems to just be a foregone assumption by a few fantasists on this forum and nowhere else, with absolutely no backing from the studio or anyone else on the planet.
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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby KingZillla » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:10 pm

Thank you. 99.99%. of space is unexplored, never even seen by human eyes. The universe is HUUUGEE. We don't know what kind of life forms reside out in the deep depths of Space. Gamera's Alantian bio-weapon origin is a completely different realm than Ghidorah
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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby GigaBowserG » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:27 pm

BARAGONBREH wrote:2. Who says Mothra will actually be a literal "goddess" in this film? Seems to just be a foregone assumption by a few fantasists on this forum and nowhere else, with absolutely no backing from the studio or anyone else on the planet.


By this same logic, who's to say Gamera would have the same origins as his Showa/Heisei counterparts? Saying he'd have rocket-boosting abilities is conjecture, too.
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Re: Chances of Gamera in Monsterverse

Postby miguelnuva » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:06 pm

Tull knowing who Gamera is ups his chances if Godzilla vs Kong and kotm makes bank like I think they will.

Also anyone that thinks Gamera looks too silly.needs to go watch the Gamera 3 scene where he wrecks the city. Same with Shin's first form and then the nuking of tokyo.

There is nothing wrong with Gamera having a "cheesy" entrance if he immediately does and acts badass right after.

Also nothing wrong with saying a fictional lost city of Atlantis built him either.
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