MonsterVerse: Beyond 2020

[Dv-218]

After doing a quick bit of number crunching, the Monsterverse is actually on par with Phase One of the MCU thus far, and if KotM tops out at 385 million it'll actually be ahead. This is pitting Godzilla, Skull Island, and King of the Monsters against Iron Man, The Increadible Hulk, and Iron Man 2.

I do agree that Godzilla vs Kong needs to do better than KotM, however chances are very good it will because of Kong.

But in my time lurking around here watching the dramatics I have to say some of you are blowing it out of proportion saying that KotM under performing has killed the Monsterverse. $1.4 billion over three films was enough to keep Marvel going, and it's enough to continue the Monsterverse.

I really hope that this would be the case. Honestly such optimism is pretty respectable, keep it up

[Hokmuto]

After doing a quick bit of number crunching, the Monsterverse is actually on par with Phase One of the MCU thus far, and if KotM tops out at 385 million it'll actually be ahead. This is pitting Godzilla, Skull Island, and King of the Monsters against Iron Man, The Increadible Hulk, and Iron Man 2.

I do agree that Godzilla vs Kong needs to do better than KotM, however chances are very good it will because of Kong.

But in my time lurking around here watching the dramatics I have to say some of you are blowing it out of proportion saying that KotM under performing has killed the Monsterverse. $1.4 billion over three films was enough to keep Marvel going, and it's enough to continue the Monsterverse.

The budgets are different though, so we can’t compare them exactly unless through your number crunching you got there, which of you did, I would need to see your calculations and way of thinking.

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I'm pretty much expecting Mechagodzilla.

Spoiler:

After name-dropping the Oxygen Destroyer (I think that's the term)

, the military should play a bigger role in future films as to give it a bit more substance, like a premonition of things to come. Possibly mixing the Millennium Mechagodzilla and Heisei Mechagodzilla to make it well-rounded as a fighter would be best for this universe.

The thing is, there's no background for it. One minute, they're just using conventional weaponry and nuclear warheads. 5 years later, they unexpectedly have fictional chemical weapons of mass destruction, maser cannons, and Mechagodzilla? 5 years isn't enough to make such a massive leap. You can't just change something like that so quick and not come up with an explanation. So yes, I agree that the military should play a bigger role in future films to explain and expand upon the MonsterVerse.

The power of lazy writing!

[HillyHulk]

I'm pretty much expecting Mechagodzilla.

Spoiler:

After name-dropping the Oxygen Destroyer (I think that's the term)

, the military should play a bigger role in future films as to give it a bit more substance, like a premonition of things to come. Possibly mixing the Millennium Mechagodzilla and Heisei Mechagodzilla to make it well-rounded as a fighter would be best for this universe.

The thing is, there's no background for it. One minute, they're just using conventional weaponry and nuclear warheads. 5 years later, they unexpectedly have fictional chemical weapons of mass destruction, maser cannons, and Mechagodzilla? 5 years isn't enough to make such a massive leap. You can't just change something like that so quick and not come up with an explanation. So yes, I agree that the military should play a bigger role in future films to explain and expand upon the MonsterVerse.

I didn't mean I expected Mechagodzilla right now, I meant somewhere down the line.

[imposterzilla]

Perhaps way back in the 80s and 90s Monarch had the idea for these weapons and the science, but not the funding.

[GuardianGhido]

Sooo...despite what Pacific Rim Uprising did and even PR1 not doing as well as it could have, Pacific Rim is supposedly getting an Anime on Netflix.

Could something similar be done with the Monsterverse to keep it going? They don't even need the Godzilla license, they can use Kong and all the wonderful new original titans like Behemoth, Scylla, Methuselah and the likes.

[Cookson]

Sooo...despite what Pacific Rim Uprising did and even PR1 not doing as well as it could have, Pacific Rim is supposedly getting an Anime on Netflix.

Could something similar be done with the Monsterverse to keep it going? They don't even need the Godzilla license, they can use Kong and all the wonderful new original titans like Behemoth, Scylla, Methuselah and the likes.

I was just about to post something like this. Ultraman has a new anime show on Netflix. Pacific Rim is coming back again with a anime show on Netflix. With that recent Godzilla anime trilogy, I wouldn’t be surprised if they went that route with the Monsterverse after 2020 as well. Unfortunately they’ll probably use Polygon, as that who is doing Pacific Rim. Not sure who’s doing the Ultraman show but that’s the same style.

Guess I’m keeping Netflix. The whole CGI anime thing though... geez I know it’s really cheap but I wish they’d go the traditional 2d route.

[GuardianGhido]

Sooo...despite what Pacific Rim Uprising did and even PR1 not doing as well as it could have, Pacific Rim is supposedly getting an Anime on Netflix.

Could something similar be done with the Monsterverse to keep it going? They don't even need the Godzilla license, they can use Kong and all the wonderful new original titans like Behemoth, Scylla, Methuselah and the likes.

I was just about to post something like this. Ultraman has a new anime show on Netflix. Pacific Rim is coming back again with a anime show on Netflix. With that recent Godzilla anime trilogy, I wouldn’t be surprised if they went that route with the Monsterverse after 2020 as well. Unfortunately they’ll probably use Polygon, as that who is doing Pacific Rim. Not sure who’s doing the Ultraman show but that’s the same style.

Guess I’m keeping Netflix. The whole CGI anime thing though... geez I know it’s really cheap but I wish they’d go the traditional 2d route.

It would be nice to have something similar to the Zilla Jr series with a traditional anime touch (PLEASE make any Titans that appear be in quality animated 2D), A Monarch animated series could be the thing the Monsterverse needs to continue it's story without taking any huge risks. That way, all the potential won't completely go to waste.

[BlankAccount]

Sooo...despite what Pacific Rim Uprising did and even PR1 not doing as well as it could have, Pacific Rim is supposedly getting an Anime on Netflix.

Could something similar be done with the Monsterverse to keep it going? They don't even need the Godzilla license, they can use Kong and all the wonderful new original titans like Behemoth, Scylla, Methuselah and the likes.

I was just about to post something like this. Ultraman has a new anime show on Netflix. Pacific Rim is coming back again with a anime show on Netflix. With that recent Godzilla anime trilogy, I wouldn’t be surprised if they went that route with the Monsterverse after 2020 as well. Unfortunately they’ll probably use Polygon, as that who is doing Pacific Rim. Not sure who’s doing the Ultraman show but that’s the same style.

Guess I’m keeping Netflix. The whole CGI anime thing though... geez I know it’s really cheap but I wish they’d go the traditional 2d route.

I'm a broken record at this point, but I would gladly take one animated Godzilla film that has the same generic force of nature plot we've been getting for decades in the Heisei and Millennium series so long as the art style was akin to this.







A little over animated? Sure but I'll take that over robotic animation. Colors might hurt your eyes though, best not do back to back viewings in one day.

[Mr_Goji_and_Watch]

Those clips look like ass lol

You know, there's a very possibility that the PR universe will last longer than the Monsterverse.

[_JNavs_]

Sooo...despite what Pacific Rim Uprising did and even PR1 not doing as well as it could have, Pacific Rim is supposedly getting an Anime on Netflix.

Could something similar be done with the Monsterverse to keep it going? They don't even need the Godzilla license, they can use Kong and all the wonderful new original titans like Behemoth, Scylla, Methuselah and the likes.

I was just about to post something like this. Ultraman has a new anime show on Netflix. Pacific Rim is coming back again with a anime show on Netflix. With that recent Godzilla anime trilogy, I wouldn’t be surprised if they went that route with the Monsterverse after 2020 as well. Unfortunately they’ll probably use Polygon, as that who is doing Pacific Rim. Not sure who’s doing the Ultraman show but that’s the same style.

Guess I’m keeping Netflix. The whole CGI anime thing though... geez I know it’s really cheap but I wish they’d go the traditional 2d route.

I'm a broken record at this point, but I would gladly take one animated Godzilla film that has the same generic force of nature plot we've been getting for decades in the Heisei and Millennium series so long as the art style was akin to this.







A little over animated? Sure but I'll take that over robotic animation. Colors might hurt your eyes though, best not do back to back viewings in one day.

Those first 2 clips are epic.

[Smuggers]

I don't think you can really equate that sort of style to Godzilla. He'd be better off with his own thing instead of blending in with the shonen crowd.

[_JNavs_]

I could see those first 2 shots working for a Ghidorah destruction scene, where he's just snapping up entire groups of people.

I know plenty of people aren't big fans of "edge" but I'd love a more personal anime, with kaiju tearing through people and towns Attack on Titan style.

[BlankAccount]

Those clips look like ass lol

Are you even trying anymore? It seems like you're phoning it in.

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I could see those first 2 shots working for a Ghidorah destruction scene, where he's just snapping up entire groups of people.

I know plenty of people aren't big fans of "edge" but I'd love a more personal anime, with kaiju tearing through people and towns Attack on Titan style.

I think a lot of the monsters energy weapons would work wonderfully in that animation, the colors really pop. I also feel the studio did a decent job balancing the 2D and 3D animations.

[LSD Jellyfish]

What a wholesome and fantastic image.

Spoiler:

Despite my feelings of KOTM, it is sad that it might end/most likely will end.

[Dynomy-DX]

Oooor people can like both movies without having to constantly attack the other? Just an idea.

[Gigantis]

Oooor people can like both movies without having to constantly attack the other? Just an idea.

true,but I don't think opinions are really gonna change if the Monsterverse will continue. only box office.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Oooor people can like both movies without having to constantly attack the other? Just an idea.

The background threat in shin’s third act is criticizing the exact mentality mentality that KOTM glorifies. In fact, more is thrown at Shin, before Ghidorah, and we are shown more of Shin’s capabilities and how horrible it could get, and the idea is still pretty much shot down uninamously by the main case. I just realized that Shin and KOTM are completely antithetical to one another.

One cannot in good faith love both films.

[Dynomy-DX]

Oooor people can like both movies without having to constantly attack the other? Just an idea.

The background threat in shin’s third act is criticizing the exact mentality mentality that KOTM glorifies.

One cannot in good faith love both films.

Except... There are people do love both films regardless? You can have two different movies that people will like for different reasons.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Oooor people can like both movies without having to constantly attack the other? Just an idea.

The background threat in shin’s third act is criticizing the exact mentality mentality that KOTM glorifies.

One cannot in good faith love both films.

Except... There are people do love both films regardless? You can have two different movies that people will like for different reasons.

That’s exactly why I said in good faith.

[Dynomy-DX]

The background threat in shin’s third act is criticizing the exact mentality mentality that KOTM glorifies.

One cannot in good faith love both films.

Except... There are people do love both films regardless? You can have two different movies that people will like for different reasons.

That’s exactly why I said in good faith.

Once again though. There are people who, in full good faith, like both movies. The two are apples and oranges and people can like them for separate reasons beyond “they need to share the same metaphor”