Should Godzilla be agile?

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Well, yeah.

I don't want him to be as slow as the rubber suits..
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Yes, he should be agile.

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^ Him being agile would most likely mean that he will have large muscular thighs, and will have a bulky but fit/athletic appearance.
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Yes, I want him to be agile.

Not Showa, GINO, or Final Wars agile and not Heisei or Kiryuverse stiff either.

Maybe GMK agile is about right
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As long as it's not FW agile I'm fine.
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I think most people associate an agile Godzilla with FW, so there lies one really big problem with people wanting such a thing.....
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Jomei wrote:Let me ask something: are the people saying he should be "agile" understanding that it would have implications on his design as well? Are you guys the pro-raptor delegation?
Doesn't mean he'll have a design like that.

I'm talking about an agile fighting style. Maybe he gets knocked to the ground, trips the monster with his tail as they approach him, and as godzilla gets up he sprays them with a blast of fire. They can potray action a lot faster without the suits. Look at the difference between CGI mothra and puppet mothra..
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Godzilla needs to perform quick actions when fighting another monster such as: dodging, side-stepping, chaining attacks together, performing clever moves like faking out one attack in order to distract the monster long enough to hit it with a more powerful attack. Maybe he can even ball up his hands into fists, and do various jabs and punches while combining clawing and biting into the mix. I wouldn't mind another athletic looking Godzilla while still having some bulk to him. Like Final Wars Godzilla but bigger muscle wise, even FW Godzilla had a good amount on him.
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Oddly enough, I always keep imagining Godzilla running on all fours like a cat or something. :dizzy: But I'd say make him quick enough to keep up with any fast opponents or chase something down.
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Kiryu2012 wrote:Oddly enough, I always keep imagining Godzilla running on all fours like a cat or something. :dizzy: But I'd say make him quick enough to keep up with any fast opponents or chase something down.
I think one of the earlier scripts for '98 had Godzilla run on all four.
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I remember reading some were that an earlier draft of GMK had Godzilla on all 4's like a salamander. I would be interesting to see it but upright or nothing. Im for the "lumbering mountain of flesh" idea.

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Godzilla = Stands up straight, 4 toes, 4 huge finger nails, thick legs an thighs, also a thick chest and a GMK styled face. With 3 rows of spines that light up blue prior to firing atomic breath.

There you go. He should not be skinny, he should not have 3 toes, he should not look anorexic, he should not look like an Iguana or T-Rex, an he should not be lean forward like the typical theropod. An he doesn't need to run fast or be agile because he is indestructible an doesn't need to run from the military like GINO.

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Jomei wrote:Let me ask something: are the people saying he should be "agile" understanding that it would have implications on his design as well? Are you guys the pro-raptor delegation?
He doesn't need to be more raptor-like to be agile. Gamera, for instance, is rather agile on the ground, IMO, and he doesn't look raptor-like. Angurius is pretty agile too. I want Godzilla to be agile in fight scenes, not all the frickin' time. There's no need for Godzilla to be agile against the military, the military are nothing but an annoyance. But against other monsters? Godzilla needs to demonstrate power and ferocity, and in my mind both of those qualities are summed up in the word "agile". Just agile enough that we can get some truly dynamic action sequences.

For me, Peter Jackson's King Kong and Heisei Gamera set the bar rather high for monster fight scenes - Kong v. V-Rex was tense, it was exciting, and it was dynamic; same story for basically any of Heisei Gamera's fights. I think Pacific Rim is going to set the bar high as well, and what little we've seen demonstrates the sort of dynamism I'm hoping for. I just don't want to see a repeat of the dull "stand around and shoot beams at each other" fights from Heisei Godzilla.

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Jomei wrote:Let me ask something: are the people saying he should be "agile" understanding that it would have implications on his design as well? Are you guys the pro-raptor delegation?
I do understand that having a quicker moving Godzilla would affect his design and I hope it does. I would like to see the slim '64 suit and I don't think he looks much like a " raptor". I think when most are saying they want a quicker G is not redesigning him into some skinny theropod but the slim body of the 60's and Final Wars(body plan anyway). Godzilla moving fast should really be dictated by the situation: fighting the military, no. Fighting another monster, big yes. He should be able to charge at his opponents head first like a raging bull. He should be able to kick and claw and bite with alarming speed. That's just my two cents.
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Josh1990 wrote:
Jomei wrote:Let me ask something: are the people saying he should be "agile" understanding that it would have implications on his design as well? Are you guys the pro-raptor delegation?
I do understand that having a quicker moving Godzilla would affect his design and I hope it does. I would like to see the slim '64 suit and I don't think he looks much like a " raptor". I think when most are saying they want a quicker G is not redesigning him into some skinny theropod but the slim body of the 60's and Final Wars(body plan anyway). Godzilla moving fast should really be dictated by the situation: fighting the military, no. Fighting another monster, big yes. He should be able to charge at his opponents head first like a raging bull. He should be able to kick and claw and bite with alarming speed. That's just my two cents.
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XxComablack1937xX wrote:Godzilla = Stands up straight, 4 toes, 4 huge finger nails, thick legs an thighs, also a thick chest and a GMK styled face. With 3 rows of spines that light up blue prior to firing atomic breath.

There you go. He should not be skinny, he should not have 3 toes, he should not look anorexic, he should not look like an Iguana or T-Rex, an he should not be lean forward like the typical theropod. An he doesn't need to run fast or be agile because he is indestructible an doesn't need to run from the military like GINO.
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XxComablack1937xX wrote:Godzilla = Stands up straight, 4 toes, 4 huge finger nails, thick legs an thighs, also a thick chest and a GMK styled face. With 3 rows of spines that light up blue prior to firing atomic breath.

There you go. He should not be skinny, he should not have 3 toes, he should not look anorexic, he should not look like an Iguana or T-Rex, an he should not be lean forward like the typical theropod. An he doesn't need to run fast or be agile because he is indestructible an doesn't need to run from the military like GINO.
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SpaceG92 wrote:I remember reading some were that an earlier draft of GMK had Godzilla on all 4's like a salamander.
Kaneko originally wanted Godzilla to be very hunched over and have the tail not dragging on the floor but it put too much strain on the actor so they couldn't do it. I don't remember ever hearing about Godzilla on all fours.
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Even though I prefer 4 toes, the majority of the showa movies has Godzilla sporting 3 toes. Its just the type of FEET/LEGS he sports. The showa ones gave him the muscle legs and thick feet while GINO gave us the T-Rex feet.

As far as agility, definitely showa agility, when necessary.
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