Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire NON-SPOILER THREAD

[Marciosss]

If any of this Son of Kong talk is real, Kong's dying in the next entry or two. Wish Godzilla would die, GvK killed Godzilla for me in the series. Hero to Zero...

No way they're going kill of either of their cash cows. Also, in what was Godzilla zero in GVK? Sure, he had less screen time but he was more menacing, blew a hole in the hollow earth, went rage mode on Kong and won. I wouldn't hold the Mecha fight against him considering he always had help against it.

It not about what he doing, but why. In two previous film Godzilla serve as natural-balance protector. In GvK he is in bad mood, so to de-stress selw he going to kill Kong (who only sits on his Island) and some inocent people. Oh yeah, there is a mechagodzilla but if Godzilla can smell Ghidorah in him, why not go to Hong Kong in first place?

[Sammy19]

If any of this Son of Kong talk is real, Kong's dying in the next entry or two. Wish Godzilla would die, GvK killed Godzilla for me in the series. Hero to Zero...

No way they're going kill of either of their cash cows. Also, in what was Godzilla zero in GVK? Sure, he had less screen time but he was more menacing, blew a hole in the hollow earth, went rage mode on Kong and won. I wouldn't hold the Mecha fight against him considering he always had help against it.

It not about what he doing, but why. In two previous film Godzilla serve as natural-balance protector. In GvK he is in bad mood, so to de-stress selw he going to kill Kong (who only sits on his Island) and some inocent people. Oh yeah, there is a mechagodzilla but if Godzilla can smell Ghidorah in him, why not go to Hong Kong in first place?

I'd say he's trying to keep balance but Kong was in his territory. I'm pretty sure if Kong hadn't been there then Godzilla would've definitely arrived sooner in Hong Kong than later on.

[Mac Daddy MM]

If any of this Son of Kong talk is real, Kong's dying in the next entry or two. Wish Godzilla would die, GvK killed Godzilla for me in the series. Hero to Zero...

No way they're going kill of either of their cash cows. Also, in what was Godzilla zero in GVK? Sure, he had less screen time but he was more menacing, blew a hole in the hollow earth, went rage mode on Kong and won. I wouldn't hold the Mecha fight against him considering he always had help against it.

It not about what he doing, but why. In two previous film Godzilla serve as natural-balance protector. In GvK he is in bad mood, so to de-stress selw he going to kill Kong (who only sits on his Island) and some inocent people. Oh yeah, there is a mechagodzilla but if Godzilla can smell Ghidorah in him, why not go to Hong Kong in first place?

Did... Did you just not pay attention to the eyeball/device in the beginning having the Titan lure? It has nothing to do with Godzilla "smelling" Ghidorah, MG has a built-in Orca that's challenging Godzilla whenever it is turned on. The device was in Florida when it was originally activated before being transported to Hong Kong following the attack.

The entire thing with Kong is legit explained. "There can't be two alphas." That's it. It's a whole conversation early on about why they can't/shouldn't take Kong off the island. Godzilla acted the same way to Kong the same way he acted to Ghidorah when he popped up from where he's suppose to be. All of you guys complaining about Godzilla being the "villain" seem to have it in your head that being a "hero" means he's on humanity's side, and that straight up isn't the case. He's on nature's side.

[Handsome Shrek]

Godzilla was never a "hero" in these movies at all. A hero is a character that does things because they have morals.

Godzilla is a territorial apex predator that attacks competition, but can still recognize who/what is on his side. He is not a hero.

[Mac Daddy MM]

Godzilla was never a "hero" in these movies at all. A hero is a character that does things because they have morals.

Godzilla is a territorial apex predator that attacks competition, but can still recognize who/what is on his side. He is not a hero.

Very well said. Humanity simply hasn't crossed that line with him yet, which is very surprising considering they dropped nukes and then the oxygen destroyer on him.

[miguelnuva]

Godzilla was never a "hero" in these movies at all. A hero is a character that does things because they have morals.

Godzilla is a territorial apex predator that attacks competition, but can still recognize who/what is on his side. He is not a hero.

Godzilla is not a hero in the morality of humans. He is a hero in a universal sense and he wakes up when ever the planet is in danger.

Are we going to argue Heisei Gamera isn't a hero?

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People that say Godzilla was ruined in iotm need to go and watch kotm and GvsK again. Kong is no different from Ghidorah in the higherarcy as far as Godzilla is concerned. Godzilla has to deal with what he thinks is Ghidorah coming back and Kong running around both which could be threats.

Godzilla doesn't know Kong is not after the Alpha role like we the audience knows.

[darthzilla99]

Godzilla was never a "hero" in these movies at all. A hero is a character that does things because they have morals.

Godzilla is a territorial apex predator that attacks competition, but can still recognize who/what is on his side. He is not a hero.

Very well said. Humanity simply hasn't crossed that line with him yet, which is very surprising considering they dropped nukes and then the oxygen destroyer on him.

Nuke radiation feeds him, so he probably thought humanity's nukes were gifts from his perspective.

[CyberZilla]

Godzilla was never a "hero" in these movies at all. A hero is a character that does things because they have morals.

Godzilla is a territorial apex predator that attacks competition, but can still recognize who/what is on his side. He is not a hero.

Very well said. Humanity simply hasn't crossed that line with him yet, which is very surprising considering they dropped nukes and then the oxygen destroyer on him.

Nuke radiation feeds him, so he probably thought humanity's nukes were gifts from his perspective.

To him, humans are other organisms in the ecosystem. In some cases, they will be neutral or harmless, or may even work with him. In KOTM, we see them trying to help him, and I would wager he perceived that similar to Mothra's symbiotic relationship to him. They had a common enemy, and he recognized that.
However, once they activated the ORCA device with Ghidorah's signal as part of Apex's plans, he turned on them. He's on the side of the planet, his home, and Ghidorah threatened it. If humans "betrayed" him and seemingly sided with a returning Ghidorah, he will see them as a threat. An alpha that gets in his way, like Kong, will also be viewed as a threat. Just like Apex sees Godzilla as a danger to overcome, he saw that signal and humans as a danger to overcome.

[Sammy19]

Godzilla was never a "hero" in these movies at all. A hero is a character that does things because they have morals.

Godzilla is a territorial apex predator that attacks competition, but can still recognize who/what is on his side. He is not a hero.

Very well said. Humanity simply hasn't crossed that line with him yet, which is very surprising considering they dropped nukes and then the oxygen destroyer on him.

Speaking of Oxygen Destroyer, I do hope they address it in the next film or the film after that.

[Dr. Professor]

Speaking of Oxygen Destroyer, I do hope they address it in the next film or the film after that.

I was thinking about this yesterday. I don’t really know how they’re going to address it in a satisfactory way. They have a weapon that nearly killed Godzilla. It would be really weird if it’s completely absent from the MonsterVerse going forward, but the alternative would be the military throwing one out every time monsters are around. The best way to address it would probably be to introduce Destoroyah, but I personally really don’t want that lol. It just really bugs me how casually they introduced the Oxygen Destroyer.

[SpiderZilla]

Speaking of Oxygen Destroyer, I do hope they address it in the next film or the film after that.

I suspect there will be a brief mention at some point that the military is either barred from using the Oxygen Destroyer again or else has been saddled with severe restrictions on future usage due to the massive ecological harm it causes. We know from the post-credits scene in KOTM that the fishing industry of Isla de Mara suffered after its deployment. It would not be unfair to assume that the repercussions extended into other industries and that the regional and perhaps national economy may still be recovering. This would make any future deployment of the Oxygen Destroyer an ecologic, economic, and diplomatic nightmare.

[BurningCoolMan]

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Rebecca Hall, Brian Tyree Henry and Kaylee Hottle are reprising their roles with Dan Stevens, Fala Chen, Alex Ferns and Rachel House also set to star.

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[eabaker]

Oh, goody, a bunch of kaiju backstory...

[BurningCoolMan]

just happy Bernie is back

[Titanus_Rodan]

Excellent!!!! This officially confirms Godzilla’s return. Who’s ready to eat some crow?

Oh, goody, a bunch of kaiju backstory...

Oh, goody, more snark from people without having seen the movie yet.

I’m betting a lot of the backstory elements that were cut from GvK will be used in this movie.

Also it sounds like most of the cast and crew from GvK are returning which makes complete sense…why break up a winning team?

[kaijukurt]

It seems like Millie Bobby Brown, Alan Skarsgard, Kyle Chandler, and Julian Dennison aren't returning?

Edit: Cinematographer Ben Seresin and composer Junkie XL are back too.

[Moth]

It seems like Millie Bobby Brown, Alan Skarsgard, Kyle Chandler, and Julian Dennison aren't returning?

Edit: Cinematographer Ben Seresin and composer Junkie XL are back too.

as someone who just got out of binging all of stranger things two weekends ago, MBB obviously wasn't enjoying being in these films compared to her REALLY good performance in ST.

[Handsome Shrek]

A couple things….

Is there an ORIGINAL source for the plot synopsis? If so where is it?

Also, lol here come the fanboys with their horrible “theories” and ideas. Can’t wait to hear more World Serpent and planet-sized Biollante bullshit.

Gonna be a long year and a half

[Dr. Professor]

Not really stoked about Junkie XL and the character of Bernie returning, but I’m generally looking forward to the rest.

[Monke]

A couple things….

Is there an ORIGINAL source for the plot synopsis? If so where is it?

Also, lol here come the fanboys with their horrible “theories” and ideas. Can’t wait to hear more World Serpent and planet-sized Biollante bullshit.

Gonna be a long year and a half

The source is mentioned as WB and Legendary in collider article
https://collider.com/godzilla-vs-kong-2 ... se-sequel/