Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire NON-SPOILER THREAD

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Happy to hear it! Not too surprised given 2024 will be Godzilla's 70th anniversary & I'm sure Toho/Legendary want to capitalize on that.

Plus, another Godzilla/Kong double bill is financially more viable than just doing another solo for either monster.

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Remember the comments that said we Godzilla fans were told that we should accept that Godzilla won't be in this film, got shoved down our throats that Kong solo is the likely route and that we worship Godzilla too much, or anytime that the mere idea of Godzilla being tied to Kong's story is somehow disrespectful of Kong?

Those comments aged well.

Anyways, I'm excited about this news. I think having a collaboration of both Kong and Godzilla allows interesting character arc potential of both kaiju. Granted, the film may still focus more on Kong with Godzilla being a cameo, but still exciting nonetheless.
GVK: TNE is a modern day 70s Showa Godzilla movie. Being a massive budget modern blockbuster CGI film instead of traditional 70s tokusatsu techniques doesn't change that.

Monsterverse is not similar to either MCU nor Bayformers just because all three are big budget CGI blockbuster franchises.

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darthzilla99 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:28 am Remember the comments that said we Godzilla fans were told that we should accept that Godzilla won't be in this film, got shoved down our throats that Kong solo is the likely route and that we worship Godzilla too much, or anytime that the mere idea of Godzilla being tied to Kong's story is somehow disrespectful of Kong?

Those comments aged well
This is FAR more obnoxious than anything your comment is referring to.
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Fantastic news!
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Well now, this makes things VERY interesting. Instead of being a versus film, I wonder if it'll be something akin to "Godzilla & Kong". Crossing my fingers hardcore for Gigan and Megalon, along with MV Anguirus and return of Rodan.

This really just lifted my spirits in general. Something to look forward to with Godzilla again.

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I don't expect Anguirus to show up in the Monsterverse just because he won't be interesting enough to the GA to be worth the licensing fee, but there's always the chance he could turn up in the mystery Toho film that's coming. I kind of have a feeling he might, actually. If this thing is a Godzilla movie, and of course it is, it'll be Toho's second live action movie of the new era, so historical precedents and all. And SP obviously shows a renewed interest in Anguirus and other Showa kaiju, strengthening the possibility.

OT: I think Godzilla's role in this new MV movie will be limited, likely flashbacks and cameos, but I guess we'll find out. It'll be great to see him again, anyway!
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If that TOHO kaiju film really is Godzilla then we're looking a great 70th anniversary

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I can see it going two ways:

A) Godzilla and Kong dealing with a threat

B) Godzilla only having a small scene that moves the plot forward.

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dillonking55 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 6:40 am
Happy to hear it! Not too surprised given 2024 will be Godzilla's 70th anniversary & I'm sure Toho/Legendary want to capitalize on that.

Plus, another Godzilla/Kong double bill is financially more viable than just doing another solo for either monster.
Would be interesting to see how Godzilla moves in the Hollow Earth with Kong.

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Mac Daddy MM wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:35 am Well now, this makes things VERY interesting. Instead of being a versus film, I wonder if it'll be something akin to "Godzilla & Kong". Crossing my fingers hardcore for Gigan and Megalon, along with MV Anguirus and return of Rodan.

This really just lifted my spirits in general. Something to look forward to with Godzilla again.

/fanboying
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Sammy19 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:15 am
B) Godzilla only having a small scene that moves the plot forward.
Yeah... I can also see this being a thing given all the talk/rumors of a Son of Kong. It would be a hell of a thing if Godzilla takes on an antagonistic role again if he IS a primary focus, this time without unknown factors at play. What if there *IS* another of Kong's type on the surface and its attracting Godzilla's wrath and on a constant flee/fight for refusing to bend the knee, and the human characters (Mia especially) get Kong involved to save/adopt the young Titan.

Also, I want Madison onboard the MonsterVerse's version of the Calico, complete with an Orca tech Godzilla signaler.
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Well at least we know Godzilla isn't out of the MV. The leak for awhile back about this being Destroy all Monsters is very intreasting to me now.
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miguelnuva wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:00 pm Well at least we know Godzilla isn't out of the MV. The leak for awhile back about this being Destroy all Monsters is very intreasting to me now.
It would kinda explain the secrecy of the film's title if it was DAM tbh.

If it was just another Kong or Godzilla solo film, I imagine they would have just announced it by now.

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Legion1979 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:43 am
darthzilla99 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:28 am Remember the comments that said we Godzilla fans were told that we should accept that Godzilla won't be in this film, got shoved down our throats that Kong solo is the likely route and that we worship Godzilla too much, or anytime that the mere idea of Godzilla being tied to Kong's story is somehow disrespectful of Kong?

Those comments aged well
This is FAR more obnoxious than anything your comment is referring to.
I strongly disagree. In general The pre-game know-it-alls with the "this can't happen and that won't happen just get over it" mentality are always so rude and dismissive and then never want to eat crow when they are dead wrong.
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miguelnuva wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:00 pm Well at least we know Godzilla isn't out of the MV. The leak for awhile back about this being Destroy all Monsters is very intreasting to me now.
Got a link for that leak? Seems interesting.

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But like I said. After the hype of Godzilla vs Kong, bringing back the GvK director, calling it a GvK sequel, and it coming foe Godzilla's 70th was a likely reason to expect....at minimum at least a cameo or sequence with Godzilla. That's the bottom end.

On the high end, how do you go bigger and more hyped up than Godzilla vs Kong. How do you keep that easy-sell marketing magic going and ride the wave of increasing scope and scale of giant monster spectacle?

My theory still: Destroy All Monsters

I am of the opinion that te Monsterverse doesn't have time to do 2 or 3 films a year and slowly build up to 10 film arcs. Every film is a game changer and taking it to the next level. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.
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Chrispy_G wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:39 pm But like I said. After the hype of Godzilla vs Kong, bringing back the GvK director, calling it a GvK sequel, and it coming foe Godzilla's 70th was a likely reason to expect....at minimum at least a cameo or sequence with Godzilla. That's the bottom end.

On the high end, how do you go bigger and more hyped up than Godzilla vs Kong. How do you keep that easy-sell marketing magic going and ride the wave of increasing scope and scale of giant monster spectacle?

My theory still: Destroy All Monsters

I am of the opinion that te Monsterverse doesn't have time to do 2 or 3 films a year and slowly build up to 10 film arcs. Every film is a game changer and taking it to the next level. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.
If it makes you feel any better, I hope you are correct. Who'd you pick to be the big bad?


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I feel like KotM already more or less already did the Destroy All Monsters premise, just without the humanoid aliens.

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Sammy19 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:34 pm
miguelnuva wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:00 pm Well at least we know Godzilla isn't out of the MV. The leak for awhile back about this being Destroy all Monsters is very intreasting to me now.
Got a link for that leak? Seems interesting.
https://preview.redd.it/cdan69u7yoy51.p ... a940b8022e

This was apprantly leaked and removed in 2017.
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Mac Daddy MM wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:48 pm
Chrispy_G wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:39 pm But like I said. After the hype of Godzilla vs Kong, bringing back the GvK director, calling it a GvK sequel, and it coming foe Godzilla's 70th was a likely reason to expect....at minimum at least a cameo or sequence with Godzilla. That's the bottom end.

On the high end, how do you go bigger and more hyped up than Godzilla vs Kong. How do you keep that easy-sell marketing magic going and ride the wave of increasing scope and scale of giant monster spectacle?

My theory still: Destroy All Monsters

I am of the opinion that te Monsterverse doesn't have time to do 2 or 3 films a year and slowly build up to 10 film arcs. Every film is a game changer and taking it to the next level. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.
If it makes you feel any better, I hope you are correct. Who'd you pick to be the big bad?
I think they wouldn't go Ghidorah again, so my personal pick right now would be Destoroyah. Or finally give Bagan a canonized debut...but that is probably too much of a deep cut. Heck even an original monster named "Baygon" would be enough up the alley to satisfy my itch.

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I'm salivating at Kong, axe in hand, and Godzilla leading a small army of known Kaiju against a swarm of Destoroyah forms. Then having huge Destoroyah as the big smackdown.
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