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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Vandarker » Thu May 23, 2019 5:51 pm

Godzilla2000Zero wrote:
Gojira18 wrote:
Vandarker wrote:The scene itself was given the emotional gravity it deserved, and Serizawa's effort is portrayed heroically. I personally was touched when Serizawa and Godzilla look each other in the eye.

But yeah, I don't know how Japanese fans would think about it. The scene itself is well-executed.

Did either of you cry during that scene?

No really but it was moving hard to believe that Serizawa and Graham are gone
I'm among the few who probably empathed with Emma so her sacrifice moved me as well along with Mothra's

I loved that shot with Mothra crawling over Godzilla's body in defiance to Ghidorah; it's short but effectively communicates their relationship, like old war buddies. She looks small in that scene compared to how hulking Ghidorah is, but all the more courageous.

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Godzilla2000Zero » Thu May 23, 2019 5:53 pm

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Gojira18 wrote:
Vandarker wrote:The scene itself was given the emotional gravity it deserved, and Serizawa's effort is portrayed heroically. I personally was touched when Serizawa and Godzilla look each other in the eye.

But yeah, I don't know how Japanese fans would think about it. The scene itself is well-executed.

Did either of you cry during that scene?

No really but it was moving hard to believe that Serizawa and Graham are gone
I'm among the few who probably empathed with Emma so her sacrifice moved me as well along with Mothra's

And yes Madison can emote more than Ford Brody who makes a small cameo in 2014 scene halo jumping in the distance

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Gojira18 wrote:Did either of you cry during that scene?

No really but it was moving hard to believe that Serizawa and Graham are gone
I'm among the few who probably empathed with Emma so her sacrifice moved me as well along with Mothra's

I loved that shot with Mothra crawling over Godzilla's body in defiance to Ghidorah; it's short but effectively communicates their relationship, like old war buddies. She looks small in that scene compared to how hulking Ghidorah is, but all the more courageous.

Yeah Mothra was a courageous underdog but at least she took out Rodan and that an impressive feat
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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Pkmatrix » Thu May 23, 2019 6:14 pm

Vandarker wrote:
Godzilla2000Zero wrote:Bunch of easter eggs can't tell you how many but it's alot

One I noticed was that there was a "Kill all Titans" sign when they were showing people protesting at the start of the film, I bet it's a little nod to Destroy all Monsters.


I didn't see that one, but I DID see the sign that straight-up says "Destroy All Monsters". XD

GFAN198423 wrote:How much does the oxygen destroyer look like the '54 prop?


We don't get to actually see it, just a digital diagram they flash fairly quickly. In that moment, it didn't really look anything like it to me? Just like some missile. I'm sure that once someone gets a freeze frame of the shot we'll see for sure. :)

Cryptid_Liker wrote:I've heard that Ghidorah's necks and horns expand and contract. Is this true?


A little, I suppose? Not in any way that's focused on.

Moogabunga wrote:For those that have seen the movie; the very second many of us read about Serizawa detonating the nuke to revive Godzilla, we knew a very tiny portion of Godzilla fans would whine about it and pretend it's incredibly insulting to the franchise - so my question (s) is/are, what did you think about that scene? How was the scene portrayed? Was it built up as something that had to be done?


It's solemn and sad, as they decide there's no other choice and he makes the decision to do it himself rather than risk anyone else. I'm sure there will be those who will complain just because, but IMO it's a very well done scene and one of the film's dramatic high points. :)

Godzilla2000Zero wrote:Yeah Mothra was a courageous underdog but at least she took out Rodan and that an impressive feat


I was worried for a moment that she'd actually killed him! XD The way they play his shock at being stabbed, the reveal, and how he falls away really tricks you for a moment into thinking she'd impaled him through the heart. ^^; You know I'm a fanboy when my first thought was "NOOOO" for one of the badguys. XD

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Shadowfyre » Thu May 23, 2019 6:26 pm

Vandarker wrote:
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Vandarker wrote:The scene itself was given the emotional gravity it deserved, and Serizawa's effort is portrayed heroically. I personally was touched when Serizawa and Godzilla look each other in the eye.

But yeah, I don't know how Japanese fans would think about it. The scene itself is well-executed.

Did either of you cry during that scene?

Nope lol I never cry from seeing a movie. But Serizawa did feel very heroic and resolved, and the moment he makes eye contact with Godzilla really gave me a sense of awe. It's the only time that Godzilla makes truly personal contact with a single human being.



Suuuuure ya dont. We will see when Lion King comes out

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby fake » Thu May 23, 2019 6:42 pm

Is the "Let them fight like Serizawa used to say. I loved it when he said that" line still there before Chandler says "This time we join him"

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby LockBite » Thu May 23, 2019 6:50 pm

fake wrote:Is the "Let them fight like Serizawa used to say. I loved it when he said that" line still there before Chandler says "This time we join him"

“Wink wink hey audience it’s just a movie!” skreeonking yuck, man. X_X

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Pkmatrix » Thu May 23, 2019 6:51 pm

fake wrote:Is the "Let them fight like Serizawa used to say. I loved it when he said that" line still there before Chandler says "This time we join him"


I don't quite remember when that line happens, but I do remember that line getting spoken. :)

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Vandarker » Thu May 23, 2019 6:53 pm

fake wrote:Is the "Let them fight like Serizawa used to say. I loved it when he said that" line still there before Chandler says "This time we join him"

Yep definitely

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Postby Gawdziller1954 » Thu May 23, 2019 6:53 pm

Well, turns out our Godzilla hasn't fought Ghidorah in the past. The one in the cave paintings is
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Dagon
according to Godzilla: Aftershock.
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Postby Tyrant28 » Thu May 23, 2019 6:55 pm

Aftershock no way implied Dagon fought Ghidorah. The marking for King of the Monsters makes it clear Godzilla fought Ghidorah, especially when one of the soundtrack is listed “Old Rivals”.
MrRockett wrote:They are a sticky bunch for sure. In 2014 all the guys were gathered around the Gravity booth to get a glimpse and maybe an autograph from Sandra Bullock. Some ass jockey decided to not crop dust the crowd, dude let off some straight napalm and cleared a 20 ft radius and didn’t flinch, he just moved up closer. I prayed Sandra wouldn’t catch a whiff, talk about Endgame....just gross.

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Vandarker » Thu May 23, 2019 6:57 pm

Gawdziller1954 wrote:Well, turns out our Godzilla hasn't fought Ghidorah in the past. The one in the cave paintings is
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Dagon
according to Godzilla: Aftershock.

Are you sure? The dialogue seems to imply that this Godzilla did fight Ghidorah in the past. And when they first see each other in Antarctica there's this moment of recognition. You can clearly see it in both of their reactions, they don't seem surprised by each other, and they narrow their eyes staring each other down like it's their usual habit.

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Postby Gawdziller1954 » Thu May 23, 2019 7:03 pm

Tyrant28 wrote:Aftershock no way implied Dagon fought Ghidorah. The marking for King of the Monsters makes it clear Godzilla fought Ghidorah, especially when one of the soundtrack is listed “Old Rivals”.

"We knew He who arose from the waters for thy divine son, Great Asherah: DAGON, stirrer of the Abyss, Lord of Lightning. [i]He who bore the Fallen Star to its place of rest.

2nd page set in 11th century BCE.
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Postby Tyrant28 » Thu May 23, 2019 7:19 pm

Gawdziller1954 wrote:
Tyrant28 wrote:Aftershock no way implied Dagon fought Ghidorah. The marking for King of the Monsters makes it clear Godzilla fought Ghidorah, especially when one of the soundtrack is listed “Old Rivals”.

"We knew He who arose from the waters for thy divine son, Great Asherah: DAGON, stirrer of the Abyss, Lord of Lightning. [i]He who bore the Fallen Star to its place of rest.

2nd page set in 11th century BCE.

That really vague that it could not be referring to Ghidorah. Again the viral marketing is hammering in that Godzilla fought Ghidorah before with all the cave painting of him fighting Ghidorah on his bio and information. If they want it to be Dagon who fought Ghidorah, then they definitely would not be marketing it as such.
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Postby Cryptid_Liker » Thu May 23, 2019 7:20 pm

Does Mothra sneeze on Madison and Emma Russell? I remember there was a sketch by an employee that shows Mothra sneezing on the two.

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Postby Vandarker » Thu May 23, 2019 7:20 pm

Gawdziller1954 wrote:
Tyrant28 wrote:Aftershock no way implied Dagon fought Ghidorah. The marking for King of the Monsters makes it clear Godzilla fought Ghidorah, especially when one of the soundtrack is listed “Old Rivals”.

"We knew He who arose from the waters for thy divine son, Great Asherah: DAGON, stirrer of the Abyss, Lord of Lightning. [i]He who bore the Fallen Star to its place of rest.

2nd page set in 11th century BCE.

That's too ambiguous to suggest anything I think.

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Sonic » Thu May 23, 2019 7:27 pm

does rodan bow at the end of the movie?

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Postby GojiDog » Thu May 23, 2019 7:30 pm

Sonic wrote:does rodan bow at the end of the movie?


Yes he does.

Cryptid_Liker wrote:Does Mothra sneeze on Madison and Emma Russell? I remember there was a sketch by an employee that shows Mothra sneezing on the two.


I guess you could call it a sneeze. I didn't think of it as that, but its the same bit that is in the third trailer where Mothra "sneezes" or exhales on them and MBB nervously laughs.
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Postby Cryptid_Liker » Thu May 23, 2019 7:30 pm

Sonic wrote:does rodan bow at the end of the movie?


Yeah, he's the first Titan to do so.

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Olzh26 » Thu May 23, 2019 7:39 pm

Godzilla2000Zero wrote:
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Godzilla2000Zero wrote:All of it really you can tell how the world has changed since 2014 pretty much Monarch disclosed everything to the public including the existence of Kong and Skull Island and only outpost covered up was Ghidorah's and they really impact the world the montage at the end clear shows the Titan activity can heal the planet. Most of the fights are from a human perpective which I'll admit caught me off guard at first but now truly appreciate like MBB is fleeing Godzilla and Ghidorah fighting while trying to avoid Rodan and Mothra's fight in another scene.
Godzilla definitely prevent many Titans from become too active once he out of commission the other Titans rise to Ghidorah's call

I do not think that the titans woke up because of the death of Godzilla. they were in hibernation, absorbing radiation and then they were awakened by the roar of Ghidorah. And Godzilla himself is indifferent to the activity of titans.

Vera specifically said that with Godzilla gone the other Titans are rising up

does he consider them his rivals?

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SG-17 wrote:So do all of the Titans feed off of radiation or do they prey on each other/eat fish/other animal life, etc?



It is a good question. But I believe that all Titans appeared at a time when Earth had very high levels of radiation.

In addition to Godzilla himself, M.U.TO.S also fed on radiation, as we saw in G2014. Even when they are parasitizing another Titan it is said that they feed on the nuclear material in the Titan's blood:

"MUTO Prime is genetically programmed to look for a Titan host for its descendants." After defeating an opponent in battle, the flexible MUTO Prime ovipositors, guided by uranium in the blood of a Titan, stab the tail of a scorpion, and the eggs incubate by breaking the hemoglobin in the blood of the host to feed on the nuclear material, eventually the host unable to replenish its atomic energy until it finally dies. "

Source: https://wikizilla.org/wiki/MUTO_Prime#Reproduction

So I assume all titans feed on nuclear energy.

My doubt is Kong and the other monsters of the SI.

And I'm loving reading what you're writing about Rodan.

He / She will probably be my favorite titan along with Ghidorah. As I mentioned earlier, I'm not much in favor of the "benevolent" Godzilla. Some people even suggested that Rodan has more personality than him. And the more I read the spoilers, less I sympathize with Godzilla.

I think the intention was bring him closer to the public, making people like him. But to me his personality is a bit contradictory. He fights for a balance threatened by humans, but he does nothing against us. We not only destroy the planet, but we are also responsible for the awakening of M.U.T.Os and Ghidorah, but Godzilla seems to forgive mankind every time. He's very unilateral in its intentions. He is now a giant Deud ex machina to humans.

In addition, Ghidorah and M.U.T.O do not sound like "villains," since all they do is by their own survival or for their species. Different from humans.

Rodan, however, behaves more appropriately. I hope Legendary has more plans for him / her.

Despite Rodan and Mothra are well featured in this movie, the fact that there are so many Titans in the monsterverse makes me feel like that both are just "another Titan." If they aren't cited again or well used in future films this impression will get stronger.

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Dunno about this, Ghidorah definitely feels like a legit villain here. He is not motivated by survival and reproduction like the MUTOs, nor is he motivated by hunger like the Skullcrawlers- seems that his entire goal is to subdue the earth Titans and terraform the planet under his wrath- all for his own amusement.

No, he just wants to terraform the Earth for his conditions. he does not consider himself a villain

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Re: Godzilla ² General Discussion [SPOILERS]

Postby Ben Shapiro » Thu May 23, 2019 7:42 pm

I’d say since those four Titans came to help Ghidorah during the Boston battle but
were too late.
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