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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby HedorahIsBestGirl » Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:31 pm

Gailah 1966 wrote:It`s the best movie of the Millenium series in my eyes.

So after watching the whole Millennium series about 10 times, G x Megaguirus is my favorite.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby edgaguirus » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:50 pm

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Terasawa » Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:45 am

Did you know that GxM is "the pinnacle of the Heisei Godzilla series"?

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So proclaims Toho's 2001 VHS/DVD artwork.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby VoyagerGoji » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:35 pm

Terasawa wrote:Did you know that GxM is "the pinnacle of the Heisei Godzilla series"?

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So proclaims Toho's 2001 VHS/DVD artwork.


Well I mean, they’re not wrong, on both fronts. It did come out in Japan’s Heisei period, and, it has a lot of Heisei elements such as the weapon to kill Godzilla that fails.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Terasawa » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:43 pm

It probably predates the official "Millennium Series" name but I just thought it was interesting that they deliberately tied it to the Heisei Godzilla Series.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby eabaker » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:57 pm

Terasawa wrote:It probably predates the official "Millennium Series" name but I just thought it was interesting that they deliberately tied it to the Heisei Godzilla Series.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the term "vs Series" initially used to differentiate the earlier Heisei entries from the "Millennium Series," with all of them falling under the larger Heisei umbrella? Or was "vs Series" always strictly a fan appellation?
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby UltramanGoji » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:08 pm

IIRC, "Vs. Series" is a Japanese fandom nickname but I think Toho officially refers to the two series as the "Heisei" and "Millennium" series.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Terasawa » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:13 pm

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Terasawa wrote:It probably predates the official "Millennium Series" name but I just thought it was interesting that they deliberately tied it to the Heisei Godzilla Series.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the term "vs Series" initially used to differentiate the earlier Heisei entries from the "Millennium Series," with all of them falling under the larger Heisei umbrella?


I think UG's right: I believe "VS Series" was coined by Japanese fans while that series was still in production (so some time during the 1990s). (Who wants to dig through G-Fans to check if it was being used by JD back then too?) I don't know when or in what context "Heisei Godzilla Series" was first used but IIRC it's spoken in at least some of the making of specials for the 1989-1995 films.

Both "VS" and "Heisei" are used on Japanese Wikipedia pages: it's the only series that uses two titles. For example, here and here.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby VoyagerGoji » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:25 pm

Omni Viewer does a very good job explaining how GxMG is a far superior film to this film, and for those who haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby eabaker » Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:51 pm

VoyagerGoji wrote:Omni Viewer does a very good job explaining how GxMG is a far superior film to this film, and for those who haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.


Despite the superficial plot/character similarities, the two movies are too tonally different for any kind of 1:1 comparison to make sense.

And to my mind, while GxMG may be better by most measures (certainly not all), it ain't nearly a good enough movie to be considered "far superior" to anything else in the Godzilla series.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Terasawa » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:00 pm

Speaking of, doesn’t GxMG feel like the longest 88-minute movie ever? That thing draaaags.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby VoyagerGoji » Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:29 pm

Terasawa wrote:Speaking of, doesn’t GxMG feel like the longest 88-minute movie ever? That thing draaaags.


To some, maybe. Not for me, of course, it was one of my first G-movies and one of my favourites.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby HedorahIsBestGirl » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:02 am

Terasawa wrote:Speaking of, doesn’t GxMG feel like the longest 88-minute movie ever? That thing draaaags.

Seriously though, I always thought that movie was close to two hours until I finally looked up the length. Still can't believe it isn't even an hour and a half...
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby eabaker » Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:53 am

Terasawa wrote:Speaking of, doesn’t GxMG feel like the longest 88-minute movie ever? That thing draaaags.


It definitely sags in places, but for me Tokyo SOS is the one that really feels interminable.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Terasawa » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:14 am

That’s true. Neither one feels much shorter than the Heisei Godzillas that run in the 100-minute range.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Desghidorah » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:31 pm

The most inexcusable reboot ever. Seriously, this film coulda had at least some benefit to continuity with G2000. I've even seen fan rewrites that do that exact thing and it proves to be a boon.
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