Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby edgaguirus » Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:03 pm

Godzilla took a real stinging, but kept on ticking.
Kaiju are just like people- giant, radioactive people.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby PitchBlackProgress » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:35 pm

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PitchBlackProgress wrote:Megaguirus was the only real sex offender in this film.

Godzilla really is a trooper, he took one for the team.

Dude took a ******* to the mouth :o
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:49 pm

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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
PitchBlackProgress wrote:Megaguirus was the only real sex offender in this film.

Godzilla really is a trooper, he took one for the team.

Dude took a ******* to the mouth :o

Megaguirus is a whore.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Grievous » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:31 pm

So...does anyone else here love the opening montage/altered history/action scene as much as I do?

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Seriously...its SO good...well...it is to me.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby SonOfGorgo » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:24 pm

Grievous wrote:So...does anyone else here love the opening montage/altered history/action scene as much as I do?

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Seriously...its SO good...well...it is to me.

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Here. :g2k:
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby eabaker » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:21 pm

Grievous wrote:So...does anyone else here love the opening montage/altered history/action scene as much as I do?

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Seriously...its SO good...well...it is to me.

:thumbsup:


Yeah, I generally stand by that sequence. Particularly the shots from the alley towards Godzilla, which give a nice sense of scale.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Maritonic » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:41 am

It's a cool sequence. The trash cans in the alley always take me out of it, though. Not really sure how they could have done it better, but there is something about how they move or sound or look that really looks cheap to me.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Grievous » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:49 am

SonOfGorgo wrote:Here. :g2k:


eabaker wrote:Yeah, I generally stand by that sequence. Particularly the shots from the alley towards Godzilla, which give a nice sense of scale.


Oh Good...its not just me then.

Maritonic wrote:It's a cool sequence. The trash cans in the alley always take me out of it, though. Not really sure how they could have done it better, but there is something about how they move or sound or look that really looks cheap to me.

Yeah...I agree with you on that.

That's part of the biggest problem with vs. Megaguirus...
the effects are so uneven in places...and yet in some
shots & scenes look fantastic.

Perhaps a slightly larger budget with a little more time
would have helped "iron out" those issues.

I guess for me personally its a "50/50" Godzilla film...
50% of it I love...but the other 50% makes me cringe.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Maritonic » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:50 am

It's a bottom 5 for me, but to each his own.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Grievous » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:55 am

Maritonic wrote:It's a bottom 5 for me, but to each his own.

And honestly...I can understand why.

Its not one of my favorites...but for
some reason I have watched it many,
many times.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Dr. Professor » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:43 am

Maritonic wrote:It's a cool sequence. The trash cans in the alley always take me out of it, though. Not really sure how they could have done it better, but there is something about how they move or sound or look that really looks cheap to me.

For me it's definitely how they sound.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Terasawa » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:45 am

Kenji Suzuki’s special effects in his two Godzilla films are ambitious but not very good. At least in G2K he had the luxury of hiding some bad mattes and CGI characters in dark nighttime sequences.

I agree that the trash cans in the alley shot is bad but I appreciate the intent. Also poorly executed is Godzilla moving his head side to side in the alley trying to track to soldiers below. The Godzilla suit wasn’t built for that kind of movement but nevertheless Suzuki has Kitagawa do it and it looks awful. Even worse is Suzuki having Godzilla snap his head around to glare at Kiriko. The idea isn’t necessarily bad but again, it’s obvious the Godzilla suit wasn’t supposed to be able to move that way.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Maritonic » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:47 am

Terasawa wrote:Kenji Suzuki’s special effects in his two Godzilla films are ambitious but not very good. At least in G2K he had the luxury of hiding some bad mattes and CGI characters in dark nighttime sequences.

I agree that the trash cans in the alley shot is bad but I appreciate the intent. Also poorly executed is Godzilla moving his head side to side in the alley trying to track to soldiers below. The Godzilla suit wasn’t built for that kind of movement but nevertheless Suzuki has Kitagawa do it and it looks awful. Even worse is Suzuki having Godzilla snap his head around to glare at Kiriko. The idea isn’t necessarily bad but again, it’s obvious the Godzilla suit wasn’t supposed to be able to move that way.


This is all extremely on point. The intent is cool, but the execution is where it falls short.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Major sssspielberg! » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:29 pm

Megaguiris is mad underrated!
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:14 pm

Major sssspielberg! wrote:Megaguiris is mad underrated!

Yeah, barring Mothra, easily the coolest insect Kaiju.
I also liked how they brought back the Meganulon. I wish they did something similar with Matango.

One thing that always bothered me though is how Megaguirus only has one big scene on screen, and then the final fight. I get that the Meganulon turn into Megaguirus, but I wish the creature had more screentime independent of Godzilla in order to develop more. Also it sortve bothers me how Megaguirus just leaves, only to randomly come back when Godzilla shows up. I guess the easy implication is that Megaguirus sensed the energy in Godzilla?
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby eabaker » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:26 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:
Major sssspielberg! wrote:Megaguiris is mad underrated!

Yeah, barring Mothra, easily the coolest insect Kaiju.
I also liked how they brought back the Meganulon. I wish they did something similar with Matango.

One thing that always bothered me though is how Megaguirus only has one big scene on screen, and then the final fight. I get that the Meganulon turn into Megaguirus, but I wish the creature had more screentime independent of Godzilla in order to develop more. Also it sortve bothers me how Megaguirus just leaves, only to randomly come back when Godzilla shows up. I guess the easy implication is that Megaguirus sensed the energy in Godzilla?


Essentially, Megaguirus is the b-plot of the movie. Godzilla vs. Megaguirus is one of the few Godzilla movies that's really driven by the actions/choices of its human protagonists (Son of Godzilla, Godzilla vs. Gigan and Godzilla vs. Biollante also leap to mind). When the humans are really the ones instigating the plot, sometimes the enemy monsters get reduced to plot complications is more of a Godzilla vs. people story. Megaguirus just didn't make its monster central enough to the action, so she got short-changed.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:50 pm

eabaker wrote:
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Major sssspielberg! wrote:Megaguiris is mad underrated!

Yeah, barring Mothra, easily the coolest insect Kaiju.
I also liked how they brought back the Meganulon. I wish they did something similar with Matango.

One thing that always bothered me though is how Megaguirus only has one big scene on screen, and then the final fight. I get that the Meganulon turn into Megaguirus, but I wish the creature had more screentime independent of Godzilla in order to develop more. Also it sortve bothers me how Megaguirus just leaves, only to randomly come back when Godzilla shows up. I guess the easy implication is that Megaguirus sensed the energy in Godzilla?


Essentially, Megaguirus is the b-plot of the movie. Godzilla vs. Megaguirus is one of the few Godzilla movies that's really driven by the actions/choices of its human protagonists (Son of Godzilla, Godzilla vs. Gigan and Godzilla vs. Biollante also leap to mind). When the humans are really the ones instigating the plot, sometimes the enemy monsters get reduced to plot complications is more of a Godzilla vs. people story. Megaguirus just didn't make its monster central enough to the action, so she got short-changed.

Yeah. I would say that the dimension Tide is actually the bigger threat of the movie to Godzilla.

The first “fight” with the Meganula is actually interrupted by the dimension tide.

Also, the Japanese title makes more sense because it includes the dimension tide. It makes the film seem more about then Godzilla fighting Megaguirus.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Grievous » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:00 pm

Major sssspielberg! wrote:Megaguiris is mad underrated!

Anguirus is mad underrated...

Megaguirus is just kind of awkward...and annoying.

The Meganulon are great though.

LSD Jellyfish wrote:Yeah, barring Mothra, easily the coolest insect Kaiju.

Yeah...No.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Major sssspielberg! » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:55 am

Fellas, I was talking about the movie actually but...
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Big facts Grievous, big facts. Also about Legion too but I'm too lazy to skreeonk with the quote any more....
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

Postby Grievous » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:54 pm

Major sssspielberg! wrote:Fellas, I was talking about the movie actually but...

Oh...

Major sssspielberg! wrote:Big facts Grievous, big facts.

Thanks?

Major sssspielberg! wrote:Also about Legion too but I'm too lazy to skreeonk with the quote any more....

Oh...don't be like that.

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