Scrapped Monster Discussion: Anguirus (2001)
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Re: Scrapped Monster Discussion: Anguirus (2001)
tbh I'd be fine if Baragon was dropped from the film and Anguirus was put in his place
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I second this. Would have been completely okay with this.Godzillian wrote:tbh I'd be fine if Baragon was dropped from the film and Anguirus was put in his place
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I feel like Baragon makes the movie feel more original, and adds to mixing things up like the changed King Ghidorah. I’m happy Baragon remained, and if it wasn’t him I’d still prefer Varan over him. Angurius has gotten enough love.
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I think the only thing with Varan over Anguirus as a replacement for Baragon would be the flying aspect. Unless you have Varan totally grounded. Having one kaiju being an Earth-bound kaiju adds variety.LSD Jellyfish wrote:I feel like Baragon makes the movie feel more original, and adds to mixing things up like the changed King Ghidorah. I’m happy Baragon remained, and if it wasn’t him I’d still prefer Varan over him. Angurius has gotten enough love.
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Mothra flies in the movie, Ghidorah sorta just hovers. I think they were going for a really clear sort of elemental thing, and to remove Varan’s gliding ability would make him sort of redundant.
I dunno why, by Baragon’s design fits way better as a Gaurdian monster than Angurius. He reminds me of all those Japanese Buddhist Statues.
I dunno why, by Baragon’s design fits way better as a Gaurdian monster than Angurius. He reminds me of all those Japanese Buddhist Statues.
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I think you missed my point haha about Varan and the flying. Baragon and Anguirus are both kaiju with 0 flying ability. Having all three kaiju flying it doesn't really work especially when one is an Earth Guardian Monster. So, having a kaiju that is completely ground based, even a burrower, works better.LSD Jellyfish wrote:Mothra flies in the movie, Ghidorah sorta just hovers. I think they were going for a really clear sort of elemental thing, and to remove Varan’s gliding ability would make him sort of redundant.
I dunno why, by Baragon’s design fits way better as a Gaurdian monster than Angurius. He reminds me of all those Japanese Buddhist Statues.
Granted, I agree completely I'd rather see Varan over Anguirus due to lack of Varan in films, I would think it's just a logistics thing. But I DO agree that Baragon has a resemblance to the statues you're referring to. I don't think Baragon was a bad pick.
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Re: Scrapped Monster Discussion: Anguirus (2001)
Varan over weak insectoid Mothra.
Anguirus over weak stupid lookin' Ghidorah.
Anguirus over weak stupid lookin' Ghidorah.
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???Kenpachiro Hirata wrote:Varan over weak insectoid Mothra.
Anguirus over weak stupid lookin' Ghidorah.
You do realize Varan and Ghidorah would both be weak just the same in context of the movie?
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Not to mention some of Ghidorah's looks were changed to look more like Varan. I've *never* understood why people rag on Ghidorah's looks SO much in GMK yet beg for Varan. It's hilarious to me. The only complaint I can understand is Ghidorah's height, which was CLEARLY done to make Godzilla all that more intimidating.
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Way to miss the point, but whatever.LSD Jellyfish wrote:You do realize Varan and Ghidorah would both be weak just the same in context of the movie?
Because he did look stupid. Tiny wings, short twirly necks, etc.Maritonic wrote:I've *never* understood why people rag on Ghidorah's looks SO much in GMK.
Not that the rest of suits in this film looked better, of course.
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Hmm. Agree to disagree. The only GMK design I didn't really love was Mothra's because I found she looked more like a bee instead of a moth, but even then I didn't hate it.Kenpachiro Hirata wrote:Way to miss the point, but whatever.LSD Jellyfish wrote:You do realize Varan and Ghidorah would both be weak just the same in context of the movie?
Because he did look stupid. Tiny wings, short twirly necks, etc.Maritonic wrote:I've *never* understood why people rag on Ghidorah's looks SO much in GMK.
Not that the rest of suits in this film looked better, of course.
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Personally I would have rather seen Anguirus and Varan instead of Ghidorah and Mothra.
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I really love that design of Anguirus. I wished they used it for Final Wars.
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Why didn't he get included? I get why Mothra's there but Ghidorah is definitely the worst kaiju in the movie and using Angy would have been a way better choice.
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Re: Scrapped Monster Discussion: Anguirus (2001)
G2K and especially GXM had not been successful for Toho, and reports in early 2001 were that the president of the studio was not a Godzilla fan and wanted to end the series. Tomiyama, the producer in charge of Godzilla, brought Kaneko on board as a sort of Hail Mary. Toho accepted Kaneko’s pitch for the third Millennium film but requested that he change two of the monsters to Ghidorah and Mothra because they’d been deemed the most popular kaiju besides Godzilla. This was considered a lot safer than using obscure, unpopular, or new monsters (such as Orga and Megaguirus).Cryptid_Liker wrote:Why didn't he get included? I get why Mothra's there but Ghidorah is definitely the worst kaiju in the movie and using Angy would have been a way better choice.
GMK was also the first of three Godzillas paired with a Hamtaro movie. That, too, was to boost ticket sales and prolong the series.
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Re: Scrapped Monster Discussion: Anguirus (2001)
After reading the treatment for this film, i gotta say i really like this version of Anguirus. Unique in his own special way with the golden color scheme and ice powers. Would've loved to see it be in an actual film.
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