The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

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What is your opinion of the Godzilla: Final Wars movie.

Great Movie! Love it, Very Entertaining
32
26%
Like it. Decent Movie, has its flaws but still watchable
57
46%
Neither Good nor Bad
7
6%
Dislike it. Bad movie
21
17%
Terrible movie, Hate it, unwatchable
8
6%
 
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby szmigiel » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:31 pm

goji89 wrote:Yeah but the build up to those was executed better do you not agree? It was an homage more than a movie.

Monster Zero has always been one of my top favorites, Honda and Tsuburaya at the top of their game.
DAM fluctuates it is good, but does takes some drastic storytelling short cuts.
I would still put Final Wars over DAM.

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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby goji89 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:39 pm

szmigiel wrote:
goji89 wrote:Yeah but the build up to those was executed better do you not agree? It was an homage more than a movie.

Monster Zero has always been one of my top favorites, Honda and Tsuburaya at the top of their game.
DAM fluctuates it is good, but does takes some drastic storytelling short cuts.
I would still put Final Wars over DAM.


Final Wars over DAM?

Good Lord man.... :lol:

Hey your opinion is yours and yours alone who am I to Judge?

I once had its DvD because Im a completionist.....one day my son lost the GFW DVD and instead of getting mad I congratulated him because thats how big a fan I am...no matter how hard I tried I couldnt pull the trigger in throwing it out myself.

But I wont ever give a G-movie a pass just because its glorified kaiju porn.
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Postby Maritonic » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:41 pm

Jesus Christ.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby Godzillian » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:06 pm

goji89 wrote:
szmigiel wrote:
goji89 wrote:Yeah but the build up to those was executed better do you not agree? It was an homage more than a movie.

Monster Zero has always been one of my top favorites, Honda and Tsuburaya at the top of their game.
DAM fluctuates it is good, but does takes some drastic storytelling short cuts.
I would still put Final Wars over DAM.


But I wont ever give a G-movie a pass just because its glorified kaiju porn.

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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby PitchBlackProgress » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:28 pm

You’re either in it for story telling and spectacle or mindless monster action, that’s how this fandom works. And it’s always like talking in foreign languages anytime the two sides go at it :lol:
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Yeah, Godzilla wins... sometimes. I mean, he was killed by Dr. Serizawa's patented bubble-bath formula, heartburn, missiles, and poor box office returns, got his ass kicked by a drunken, circus-escaped gorilla, then he was beaten by two newborn worms, yeah some “king”.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby Terasawa » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:32 pm

I don’t think it necessarily has to be either/or. I prefer when these are well made movies but I enjoy a lot of the ones that’s aren’t.

The difference here is that I can find everything I like about it in other Godzilla movies. The negatives decidedly outweigh whatever positives there are.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby Maritonic » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:34 pm

And some people don't care as long as the movie entertains them.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby Terasawa » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:47 pm

Maritonic wrote:And some people don't care as long as the movie entertains them.


There’s nothing wrong with that and I hope I haven’t implied there is.

I mean... that was kind of the point of my last post. I have no shame in enjoying a movie if it’s a bad movie as long as it entertained me. This one doesn’t though.

I do understand why others like this movie, especially for that reason, but I can’t get into it, mainly for the non-Godzilla aspects.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby Maritonic » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:50 pm

Terasawa wrote:
Maritonic wrote:And some people don't care as long as the movie entertains them.


There’s nothing wrong with that and I hope I haven’t implied there is.

I mean... that was kind of the point of my last post. I have no shame in enjoying a movie if it’s a bad movie as long as it entertained me. This one doesn’t though.

I do understand why others like this movie, especially for that reason, but I can’t get into it, mainly for the non-Godzilla aspects.


I was simply adding to what you were saying.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby PitchBlackProgress » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:20 pm

Terasawa wrote:I don’t think it necessarily has to be either/or. I prefer when these are well made movies but I enjoy a lot of the ones that’s aren’t.

The difference here is that I can find everything I like about it in other Godzilla movies. The negatives decidedly outweigh whatever positives there are.

*totally high when I typed that and totally high trying to type this’s o here goes nothing*

I mean every Godzilla movie has its strengths and weaknesses, they either have a great story or great spectacles, or both going on for them , but some fans are quick to ignore things like execution for the sake of all-out action to keep them interested. As long as the scenes are moving along and it’s snappy, it’s automatically “good” to a lot of fans and arguing about things things like faithfulness and execution just goes in one ear and out the other.


This film caters to what Toho (or someone) thought its target audience was I feel.

There’s just two sides of the overall fandom, not everyone fits this mold mind you but there’s a lot that do.

I have no problems with a movie being “fun” but that “fun” has to work and throwing a bunch of ideas all together without much thought might not be the best thing to do for a franchise as long running and set in its ways as this one.

There’s a right way to be different and a wrong way.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby goji89 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:41 pm

I found it to be a heated mess, you know where heat is applied to the mess making it messier.
I could give two skreeonks about the mutants.
I will say this....where they skreeonked up the most was with GIGAN. I mean WTF were they thinking. Yes, I am biased because Gigan is one of my most favorite kaiju. He had the most potential out of ALL of them and he gets his head blown off clean fairly fast...Don't half ass my favorite Kaiju just to be able to give him buzzsaw,chainsaw whatever hands man...

He felt like Edward Scissor hands to me.......like if you dropped him off in the forrest and left him alone and came back you'd find freaking lawn sculpted trees all over the damn place.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby GigaBowserG » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:28 pm

goji89 wrote:I will say this....where they skreeonked up the most was with GIGAN. I mean WTF were they thinking. Yes, I am biased because Gigan is one of my most favorite kaiju. He had the most potential out of ALL of them and he gets his head blown off clean fairly fast...Don't half ass my favorite Kaiju just to be able to give him buzzsaw,chainsaw whatever hands man...

He felt like Edward Scissor hands to me.......like if you dropped him off in the forrest and left him alone and came back you'd find freaking lawn sculpted trees all over the damn place.


Speaking of, you realize... there are some fans who find the chainsaw hands Gigan to be the definitive Gigan over the hooked claws? :)
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby eabaker » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:32 pm

GigaBowserG wrote:
goji89 wrote:I will say this....where they skreeonked up the most was with GIGAN. I mean WTF were they thinking. Yes, I am biased because Gigan is one of my most favorite kaiju. He had the most potential out of ALL of them and he gets his head blown off clean fairly fast...Don't half ass my favorite Kaiju just to be able to give him buzzsaw,chainsaw whatever hands man...

He felt like Edward Scissor hands to me.......like if you dropped him off in the forrest and left him alone and came back you'd find freaking lawn sculpted trees all over the damn place.


Speaking of, you realize... there are some fans who find the chainsaw hands Gigan to be the definitive Gigan over the hooked claws? :)


I can understand it as a preference, but "definitive"? Isn't that just historically inaccurate? At least difficult to support, since I don't know of a mountain of subsequent materials that have treated the chainsaw hands as the character's default appearance.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby goji89 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:48 pm

GigaBowserG wrote:Speaking of, you realize... there are some fans who find the chainsaw hands Gigan to be the definitive Gigan over the hooked claws? :)


Surely you cant be serious?

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT FEELS THAT WAY!!!

Please do come out and say it. Please say that the chainsaw buck toothed S&M space chicken GFW is the definitive Gigan.

Please!
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Postby Grievous » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:16 pm

Godzillian wrote:Apples and oranges

Pears & Peaches...

WTF?!
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby goji89 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:20 pm

Grievous wrote:
Godzillian wrote:Apples and oranges

Pears & Peaches...

WTF?!


WTF is your post.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby Grievous » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:24 pm

goji89 wrote:
Grievous wrote:
Godzillian wrote:Apples and oranges

Pears & Peaches...

WTF?!


WTF is your post.

Acting?

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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby GigaBowserG » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:25 pm

eabaker wrote:I can understand it as a preference, but "definitive"? Isn't that just historically inaccurate? At least difficult to support, since I don't know of a mountain of subsequent materials that have treated the chainsaw hands as the character's default appearance.


I can only assume that since it's still the latest version of the character, then popping up in somewhat modern media (PS4 Godzilla), this is enough justification for some.
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby goji89 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:30 pm

Grievous wrote:
goji89 wrote:
Grievous wrote:Pears & Peaches...

WTF?!


WTF is your post.

Acting?

:shrug:


:facepalm: :shrug:

Still raining I guess.... :lol:
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Re: The Godzilla: Final Wars Poll

Postby Grievous » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:18 pm

goji89 wrote:Still raining I guess.... :lol:

Yep...

I think its beginning to make me a little unhinged at this point.
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