Re: Final Wars: Why The Hate?
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:07 pm
The New York scene definitely falls on a really precarious ledge of portraying racial stereotypes, especially in the context of a Japanese film.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's due to him not being an actor, and also the fact that he doesn't speak Japanese. I feel like he was supposed to go for the more goofy kind of way that the Xillien leader was supposed to, but due to the language barrier couldn't. That, or he was just drunk off of Strong Zero and wanted his paycheck.Orichalcum wrote:Don Fry is one of the worst actors in GFW, he speaks with a slur and his acting is so piss poor it's unreal
I dunno man, I thought he actually did pretty good for what his role was. Believe me, I'm not saying it's an Oscar worthy performance, but it's a lot better than some of the other american actors in Japanese monster movies have done, and at least it was entertaining.Orichalcum wrote:Don Fry is one of the worst actors in GFW, he speaks with a slur and his acting is so piss poor it's unreal
So he's good because he wasn't absolute dog crap? lolUltimategodzilla2054 wrote:I dunno man, I thought he actually did pretty good for what his role was. Believe me, I'm not saying it's an Oscar worthy performance, but it's a lot better than some of the other american actors in Japanese monster movies have done, and at least it was entertaining.Orichalcum wrote:Don Fry is one of the worst actors in GFW, he speaks with a slur and his acting is so piss poor it's unreal
Are you not happy with Raymond Burr and Nick Adams? WTF.LSD Jellyfish wrote:So he's good because he wasn't absolute dog crap? lolUltimategodzilla2054 wrote:I dunno man, I thought he actually did pretty good for what his role was. Believe me, I'm not saying it's an Oscar worthy performance, but it's a lot better than some of the other american actors in Japanese monster movies have done, and at least it was entertaining.Orichalcum wrote:Don Fry is one of the worst actors in GFW, he speaks with a slur and his acting is so piss poor it's unreal
I assumed he was referring to the actors, who were basically hired because they were white to play "foreigners" in some of the films. See the Submarine Crew in KKVG, and the people in 89 and 91.Ultraman02 wrote:Are you not happy with Raymond Burr and Nick Adams? WTF.LSD Jellyfish wrote:So he's good because he wasn't absolute dog crap? lolUltimategodzilla2054 wrote: I dunno man, I thought he actually did pretty good for what his role was. Believe me, I'm not saying it's an Oscar worthy performance, but it's a lot better than some of the other american actors in Japanese monster movies have done, and at least it was entertaining.
But Don Frye was a side character, right? Not a background character.LSD Jellyfish wrote:I assumed he was referring to the actors, who were basically hired because they were white to play "foreigners" in some of the films. See the Submarine Crew in KKVG, and the people in 89 and 91.Ultraman02 wrote:Are you not happy with Raymond Burr and Nick Adams? WTF.LSD Jellyfish wrote: So he's good because he wasn't absolute dog crap? lol
What are we arguing over?Ultraman02 wrote:But Don Frye was a side character, right? Not a background character.LSD Jellyfish wrote:I assumed he was referring to the actors, who were basically hired because they were white to play "foreigners" in some of the films. See the Submarine Crew in KKVG, and the people in 89 and 91.Ultraman02 wrote: Are you not happy with Raymond Burr and Nick Adams? WTF.
Plus, I remember him being pretty Badass in the movie.
I never called out those movies specifically. I'm mostly refering to to other movies with american actors, like the japanese version of the first gamera film or a few scenes in shin godzilla. plus Raymond burr, while he did give a good performance, doesn't really count as he wasn't in the original japanese version, and thus didn't have to act solely with other japanese people because of the americanized version.Ultraman02 wrote:Are you not happy with Raymond Burr and Nick Adams? WTF.LSD Jellyfish wrote:So he's good because he wasn't absolute dog crap? lolUltimategodzilla2054 wrote: I dunno man, I thought he actually did pretty good for what his role was. Believe me, I'm not saying it's an Oscar worthy performance, but it's a lot better than some of the other american actors in Japanese monster movies have done, and at least it was entertaining.
yeah thatLSD Jellyfish wrote:I assumed he was referring to the actors, who were basically hired because they were white to play "foreigners" in some of the films. See the Submarine Crew in KKVG, and the people in 89 and 91.Ultraman02 wrote:Are you not happy with Raymond Burr and Nick Adams? WTF.LSD Jellyfish wrote: So he's good because he wasn't absolute dog crap? lol
Nick Adams and Raymond Burr are actually actors and do a good job so they obviously are exempt from what I said.
One of my silly Headcanon things from my youth was that the Godzilla in Destroy All Monsters is actually an all grown up Minilla, and the Minilla is another son. I mean if that's not the case, then Minilla went through a 30 year time jump and never grew up.mikelcho wrote: Just once, I'd like to see Minilla hatch from an egg (again, of the right size), grow up normally and finally become a second Godzilla, like Baby Godzilla/Little Godzilla/Godzilla Junior/Godzilla II kinda/sorta did in the Heisei series.
That scene serves as a microcosm of everything that is good about the movie and everything that is bad about it.LSD Jellyfish wrote:The New York scene definitely falls on a really precarious ledge of portraying racial stereotypes, especially in the context of a Japanese film.
We have no frame of reference for the Godzilla lifespan, at least in the Showa era. For all we know, the juvenile stage lasts 30 years or longer.GojiDog wrote:I mean if that's not the case, then Minilla went through a 30 year time jump and never grew up.
LOL, holy shit, this legit made me laugh out loud. Mind if I put this in my sig?UltramanGoji wrote: Cranky because you got mad I implied GFW isn't a good movie aren't you