I don’t see how anyone can say Final Wars is a love letter to the series. It’s definitely a homage, but I’ve accepted it’s not exactly a good one. Yet despite that, it’s rhe most interesting in the franchise. And I do think the hate, stems from the fact that initially at the time GFW was the last film in the series, and often blamed for ending the series. Yet in a post Shin world, I do think the film is still unfairly hated, or under appreciated. I’m not saying it’s good objectively but to me it’s very entertaining and I totally get why people like it.
I think it impacted me the most pre-Shin and the affect has worn off. At the time, I believed it was easily the best looking, in terms of camera work and most dynamic entry in the series. A lot of previous films, while having amazing shots, ultimately had a lot of very flat camera work. GFW has a lot of well shot scenes, including when Rodan destroys NYC.
Yes the Ebirah scene is kinda wrong in terms of making the monsters seem weak, but it’s also one of the most unique scenes in the franchise. Seeing mutants vs a monster.
GFW also feels the most lived in. Having cutaways to people reacting to the Xilliens appear, round table discussions, and even things like the opening montage make it feel like the GFW is lived in and not a static film.
At the same time, there’s this general dumbness that is in the film. I’m not talking about camp, Gordon is fine. I’m talking about scenes like where the kid is playing with the bandais, with his disgusting chocolate face and throws the Gamera vinyl into the fire. Same for scenes like the cop scene. Those scenes feel really immature and mean spirited. I think these are what people talk about when they talk about it being TRANSFORMERS, and I’ll get to that later.
And much of the film can be cut. What I realized about GFW is that it has waaaay too many plots intertwining. The obvious one is Minya, but the other one includes that rival of Ozaki. Ozaki did not need a rival, nor was the big sacrifice necessary.
I’ll contest that the fights were lackluster and short, but that’s obvious. However, people rarely talk about the final fight of Godzilla vs Keizer Ghidorah. Honestly, it’s a pretty good fight, not the best, but definitely better than many others in the franchise. KG uses a variety of beams and melee, as well as incorporates Ozaki into the climax. The major issue, is the tag team that occurs right before it. The Monster X vs Godzilla fight is actually really short, and the four way fight is waaaay too brief. If certain parts of the film were cut, like some of the aforementioned plots, and Godzilla and Mothra vs Gigan and Monster X was lengthened, the climax of the film would’ve had more impact.
In terms of how other monsters were treated, I think actually a lot of monsters are pretty cool in the film. Yes it’s satisfying to see Zilla curbstomped, Rodan destroying NYC, etc... but what I realized is a lot of the other monsters could be REPLACED by generic Xillien monsters. but Again this is supposed to be a homage, and while it’s cool seeing Rodan again the film ignores a lot of what makes those monsters awesome. People complain about Hedorah, yet I don’t see people talk how King Ceaser is horribly handled.
I think the film has a lot of bad, but it has a lot of interesting elements that kind of aren’t explored anywhere else in the franchise. I guess what I’m trying to say is that to me the film is bad, but also has some great elements, and is bizarrely super duper ambitious. You certainly can’t call GFW lazy, and I think it’s a case of trying waaaay too much at once. If many subplots were cut (Minya, Kitamura, evil Ozaki) and other sections with other monsters like the climax, or the initial Godzilla vs Gigan fight were elongated, I don’t think anyone would take issue with the film.
Finally, while yes, Gigan, Mothra and Hedorah were mistreated, don’t act like you’re so upset when Kamacuras, Zilla, Kumonga and Ebirah were offed quickly because they’ve always been treated like fodder Kaiju.
Anyways, this is a separate idea, but I’ve seen a lot of comparisons to TRANSFORMERS, the idea that the movie isn’t faithful to the series, has too many explosions, and has a general dumbness. I agree many scenes are dumb, like the aforementioned chocolate kid or cop scene. Yet, it is not as dumb as the transformers series, as Ozaki and the main cast, are not offensive to the audiences intelligence. People are not over sexualized, and there aren’t dumb thong and weed jokes. In terms of the explosions thing, I mean, it’s a Kaiju film. Things exploding is par for the course. Even the showa series had tons of explosions! Yet, in concur that the monsters, outside Godzilla, Rodan and maybe MX/KG were handled badly. Yet, it’s not a horrible film. I’ve seen a few of the transformers films, and been horribly bored by them. Yet when I watch GFW, even during the bad scenes I’m continually entertained and that’s beyond being a Godzilla fanboy. I agree the film isn’t comparable to things like 54, Shin, GMK, MVS or the classics, but it isn’t an entirely bad film.
Interestingly enough, a few years ago, pre Shin, I was a less nuanced defender of this film. I used to argue with Legion about it. I wouldn’t be surprised if my opinion gets increasingly negative as I grow older, but I do think that some of the silly stuff I like about the film hold some merit.
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_JNavs_ wrote:The MV is like cheap imitation crabmeat, it tastes good, but it isn't real, while Shin is kino peak Japanese performance.
Rodan95 wrote:The Shobijin are sat on by a fatass explorer and killed. Mothra is pissed and destroys Japan.