Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby kamilleblu » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:55 am

Didn't we only get a sequel to Godzilla Against MechaGodzilla because Toho had some ideas that Tezuka thought were boring and he wrote Tokyo SOS overnight as a substitute?

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:53 pm

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Rodan » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:50 pm

So, I know I'm super late on this, but I just watched the longer Sci-Fi Japan with Tezuka.

Wow. What an insight into the factory-like nature of these films. I've also come away with a bit more respect for them. Sounds like he wanted to make kids' movies in which the humans never give up -- fair, although I still greatly dislike incorporating "fun" super-weapons into it, as it comes at the cost of heavier themes that are ingrained into the franchise. It also sounds as if his original ending for Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla would have made much more sense of the film. That's disappointing, but it makes sense that the stories in the Millenium films feel so muddled after Godzilla 2000 -- these are very producer-down, whims-of-the-studio affairs. On the one hand, that can be the fun of the genre. On the other hand, too bad.

Also sounds like Okawara and Kawakita never agreed with each other creatively, which ... makes so much sense.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Kaiser » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:56 am

Rodan wrote:Also sounds like Okawara and Kawakita never agreed with each other creatively, which ... makes so much sense.


I don't remember hearing anything like that in the interview, could you elaborate please? It sounds really interesting.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby szmigiel » Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:47 am

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Rodan wrote:Also sounds like Okawara and Kawakita never agreed with each other creatively, which ... makes so much sense.


I don't remember hearing anything like that in the interview, could you elaborate please? It sounds really interesting.

It is early on in the interview around the 5:00 minute mark.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Rodan » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:42 am

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Rodan wrote:Also sounds like Okawara and Kawakita never agreed with each other creatively, which ... makes so much sense.


I don't remember hearing anything like that in the interview, could you elaborate please? It sounds really interesting.

Yeah; he talks about being an assistant director bringing scene orders to Kawakita and Kawakita saying he couldn't film them, didn't Tezuka think the scenes were uninteresting, etc., to which he had to reply that he was just an assistant director and his opinions didn't matter.

He also references Kawakita's drinking penchant. I mean, he only talks about them getting beer, but the picture he paints is of a pretty unruly guy who had to be reined in by his staff. At any rate, it's quite clear he and Okawara didn't much see eye to eye.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Kaijunator » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:51 pm

This is one of my favorite Goji films. I really, really like it.
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Postby Giga Kaiju » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:41 pm

If there's something that I really like about the movie, is the good combination of effects. Good suitmation, and CGI when needed.
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Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:33 pm

Still need to watch this. It's the only one I haven't seen yet. Been a little hesitant as I cared little for the first one. Besides I just never really have time to sit down and watch a movie.
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I really miss Sci Fi Japan tv. Bummed that it ended.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:47 am

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I really miss Sci Fi Japan tv. Bummed that it ended.

Why'd it end anyway? Was it talked about somewhere that I missed?
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Mini-Godzilla » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:01 pm

Okayish direct sequel to MxMG covers too much of the same ground while simultaneously borrowing heavily from early Mothra films. The return of Hiroshi Koizumi is the highlight of the flick, but the fight between the adult Mothra and Godzilla isn't too shabby, either. Noboru Kaneko leads a not-so-wild force of young characters who leave no real impact, and the cameo from Yumiko Shaku feels like a tease. Not the worst, but hardly essential viewing.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:14 pm

Mini-Godzilla wrote:Okayish direct sequel to MxMG covers too much of the same ground while simultaneously borrowing heavily from early Mothra films. The return of Hiroshi Koizumi is the highlight of the flick, but the fight between the adult Mothra and Godzilla isn't too shabby, either. Noboru Kaneko leads a not-so-wild force of young characters who leave no real impact, and the cameo from Yumiko Shaku feels like a tease. Not the worst, but hardly essential viewing.

I like SOS way more than I liked GXMG
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby 20th Century Boy » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:33 pm

I like GXMG better for the human touch it has. But GTSOS is straight up monster porn and I love it too.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:33 pm

Both movies of the Kiryu-story are alright. I can't be without both of them. They go hand-and-hand to me viewing experience with the two.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Cookson » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:18 pm

Giga Kaiju wrote:Both movies of the Kiryu-story are alright. I can't be without both of them. They go hand-and-hand to me viewing experience with the two.


I like both of the Kiryu films, GxMG a little more. My issue with SOS is they brought in a different team for Kiryu. It honestly makes no sense to use another team. SOS would have been a much better film if the cast from the first was used again.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Mr. Xeno » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:01 pm

Cookson wrote:
Giga Kaiju wrote:Both movies of the Kiryu-story are alright. I can't be without both of them. They go hand-and-hand to me viewing experience with the two.


I like both of the Kiryu films, GxMG a little more. My issue with SOS is they brought in a different team for Kiryu. It honestly makes no sense to use another team. SOS would have been a much better film if the cast from the first was used again.

Agreed.

I still very much enjoy this one, though, in the same way I enjoy Jurassic Park III: It gets straight to the basics that you come to watch - badass monster action. And the effects in this movie look spectacular, arguably the best of the whole series.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:08 pm

Cookson wrote:
Giga Kaiju wrote:Both movies of the Kiryu-story are alright. I can't be without both of them. They go hand-and-hand to me viewing experience with the two.


I like both of the Kiryu films, GxMG a little more. My issue with SOS is they brought in a different team for Kiryu. It honestly makes no sense to use another team. SOS would have been a much better film if the cast from the first was used again.


It was still used. Somewhat as side-characters, but still. It'd make sense of it for them to return instead of going 'overseas to learn new techiniques in fighting styles for Kiryu...' -_-

I agree with that point of yours about the cast though.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Dannybeane » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:39 pm

Amazing Mothra prop, Eiichi Asada knocked the spfx out of the ball park imo but the story bored me to tears and this film has some of the worst editing in the entire series. This film and GxMG are both forgettable films which is a shame because Kiryu is one pretty mech and the Godzilla suit is gorgeous.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Tokyo S.O.S. (2003)

Postby Kaltes-Herzeleid » Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:21 pm

One of my least favorite Godzilla movies and a very disappointing sequel to its predecessor. I've only watched it through once or twice and I was bored each time. Hated how all the previous characters were tossed aside for new ones I didn't even remotely care for...and need I talk about the blatant reuse of the Mothra Vs. Godzilla plot?

Also, another thing that really bugged me about this movie...I felt this was where Godzilla started taking too many cues from skreeonking anime, the previous film did too but it wasn't as bad and I could overlook it. This one...not so much.
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