Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

[Zarm]

Citizen Kane? Needs Jet Jaguar. Home Alone? Needs Jet Jaguar. Scream? Needs Jet Jaguar. Gone With The Wind? Where's he at?

See, Gone with the Wind, I can forgive; they did not yet know what they were missing back then.

But Home Alone with Jet Jaguar? I need to see that movie.

I love you guys, I really do.

I wanted to see Captain Gordon riding on Jet Jaguar's shoulder.

Are you crazy? If those two ever came together- if they actually touched- it might cause the Earth to spontaneously explode! The world could not handle a team-up of such magnitude.

I mean, affection right back attacha, MechaGoji Bro... but you have to know what you're talking about before you just throw ideas like that around. This is playing with fire, man.

[Goji]

Including Kiryu would have been interesting. Godzilla/Mechagodzilla Team up? Never seen that before. But then it would have to have been a sequel to Tokyo SOS and the Millennium Series don't play like that!

Not necessarily. They definitely would have re-purposed one of the Kiryu suits (instead of making an entirely new MG design) to save money, had him referred to as just "Mechagodzilla", and had him in an entirely different role, but I don't think they would have forced it to be a sequel just as an excuse to include MG. It may have confused audiences, but I doubt they really would have cared. With all of the other monsters in the mix, it probably wouldn't have been considered an issue to the filmmakers.

[Dr. Professor]

Citizen Kane? Needs Jet Jaguar. Home Alone? Needs Jet Jaguar. Scream? Needs Jet Jaguar. Gone With The Wind? Where's he at?

See, Gone with the Wind, I can forgive; they did not yet know what they were missing back then.

But Home Alone with Jet Jaguar? I need to see that movie.

I love you guys, I really do.

Love you too, pal.

I wanted to see Captain Gordon riding on Jet Jaguar's shoulder.

That sounds fantastic, but picture this: Jet Jaguar pallin' around with that kid, the grandpa, and Minya. What if Jet Jaguar raised Minya while Godzilla was frozen?

[MechaGoji Bro7503]

I love you guys, I really do.

I wanted to see Captain Gordon riding on Jet Jaguar's shoulder.

Are you crazy? If those two ever came together- if they actually touched- it might cause the Earth to spontaneously explode! The world could not handle a team-up of such magnitude.

I mean, affection right back attacha, MechaGoji Bro... but you have to know what you're talking about before you just throw ideas like that around. This is playing with fire, man. [/quote]

Those two teaming up might be good enough to cause Godzilla and King Kong to team up against them!

Ah, I can't help playing with fire..... imma spicy fellow.

See, Gone with the Wind, I can forgive; they did not yet know what they were missing back then.

But Home Alone with Jet Jaguar? I need to see that movie.

I love you guys, I really do.

Love you too, pal.

I wanted to see Captain Gordon riding on Jet Jaguar's shoulder.

That sounds fantastic, but picture this: Jet Jaguar pallin' around with that kid, the grandpa, and Minya. What if Jet Jaguar raised Minya while Godzilla was frozen?

Now this, this is top quality headcanon. If this actually happened, it would be the greatest Godzilla film since Godzilla vs Megalon . I expected nothing less of theories from you, professor.

[Dr. Professor]

Now this, this is top quality headcanon. If this actually happened, it would be the greatest Godzilla film since Godzilla vs Megalon . I expected nothing less of theories from you, professor.

I do have a PhD in theories.

[Zarm]

It's about time we had a decent theoriologist around here.

[eabaker]

I wanted to see Captain Gordon riding on Jet Jaguar's shoulder.

Ew.

That's like wanting the Mona Lisa stained with infant feces.

[Dr. Professor]

It's about time we had a decent theoriologist around here.

I've been here for five years!

I wanted to see Captain Gordon riding on Jet Jaguar's shoulder.

Ew.

That's like wanting the Mona Lisa stained with infant feces.

I'm not sure who's the Mona Lisa and who's the infant feces in this scenario.

[eabaker]

I wanted to see Captain Gordon riding on Jet Jaguar's shoulder.

Ew.

That's like wanting the Mona Lisa stained with infant feces.

I'm not sure who's the Mona Lisa and who's the infant feces in this scenario.

Which one is known for a beguiling smile?

[Dr. Professor]

Ew.

That's like wanting the Mona Lisa stained with infant feces.

I'm not sure who's the Mona Lisa and who's the infant feces in this scenario.

Which one is known for a beguiling smile?

Good point.

Infant feces is the most brutal insult I've ever heard. It's bad enough being called feces, but now you're not even worth enough to be adult feces? Oof.

[ManuJM1997]

Berserk Kiryu vs Modified Gigan sounds so cool that now I hate GFW even more for not including him

[PitchBlackProgress]

Berserk Kiryu vs Modified Gigan sounds so cool that now I hate GFW even more for not including him

It obviously wouldn’t have been the same Kiryu from the previous movies, the Godzilla in Final Wars IS the 1954 version, meaning Kiryu would have just been a Mechagodzilla.

[MechaGoji Bro7503]

Final Wars is legitimately the only Godzilla film I really wanted to be "overstuffed" with Godziller action. This is the one time I'll ever say a G film needed more Godzilla screentime. They should've thrown in several Kamacurus's for Godzilla to battle, shown the Hedorah and Ebirah battle, and made the first Godzilla vs Gigan fight longer.

Oh, and how about finally seeing Godzilla battle an army of alien spaceships? We've seen Godzilla blow up spaceships in TOMG but we've never seen him battle them head on.

Now that would be a slightly better 50th anniversary film.

[Grievous]

Oh Boy...

So this film is an overstuffed mess that does not focus enough on Godzilla & his fellow kaiju...

BUT!

I still find it entertaining in a very cheesy & campy anime way.

[GojiDog]

Final Wars is a movie that any fan could say they loved or that they hated and I would completely understand both sides of the argument.

I'm one fan that is more in the middle with it. It is nowhere near one of my favorites and I felt it could have been much better, but it is certainly an ambitious and fun film to watch. I will never accuse of being boring or lazy, that's for sure.

It isn't for everybody, but is so over the top with all the things it tried to accomplish that its hard not to appreciate as well.

[Maritonic]

Final Wars is a movie that any fan could say they loved or that they hated and I would completely understand both sides of the argument.

You know what, this is a pretty good point. I can see why people would love Final Wars, and I can absolutely see why people would hate it. While others that I dislike or think are lesser in quality I have a hard time see why people feel that way.

[Godzillian]

This is in the bottom 5 films in the franchise for me, it really is just so terrible. Say what you want about all the failings of G98 but at least it wasn't a franchise killing failure

[Maritonic]

In fairness, neither was Final Wars. If memory serves me correctly, it was made with the intention of being a final sendoff for 10 years give or take. Sure they could have changed this, but it's not like any of the Millennium films (except GMK) did particularly well.

[Godzillian]

In fairness, neither was Final Wars. If memory serves me correctly, it was made with the intention of being a final sendoff for 10 years give or take. Sure they could have changed this, but it's not like any of the Millennium films (except GMK) did particularly well.

It was supposed to be there big 50th anniversary film and hopefully bring new life and international attention to the franchise but as I said it flopped so hard it killed the franchise until an American reboot 10 years later breathed new life into it. The budget was 19.5 mill and it only grossed 12 mill, only passing 10 due to the international profit. It even did worse the Megagauirus which was a pretty big flop for Toho

[Maritonic]

I never disputed it flopped.