Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Godzilla1998Fan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:02 pm

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Godzilla1998Fan wrote:Meh sometimes fan theory is better than actuality :? .


That doesn't mean you should go around parading it as canon.


Okay then. :P
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby UltimateDitto » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:07 pm

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Godzilla1998Fan wrote:Yeah i know about that alternate end for them but i'm really glad they didn't go with it as Godzilla was just playing with them during their "fight" & wasn't trying to kill them. :D


Fan-theory. Not true. Every monster in GFW is an enemy.

They didn't want to destroy the suits because they still had promotional use.

Well I mean the they kept blowing up and cutting up the Gigan suit. In real life, i believe it was just a sign of respect to keep Godzilla's past allies alive and not blow them to smithereens.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Godzilla1998Fan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:10 pm

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Godzilla1998Fan wrote:Yeah i know about that alternate end for them but i'm really glad they didn't go with it as Godzilla was just playing with them during their "fight" & wasn't trying to kill them. :D


Fan-theory. Not true. Every monster in GFW is an enemy.

They didn't want to destroy the suits because they still had promotional use.

Well I mean the they kept blowing up and cutting up the Gigan suit. In real life, i believe it was just a sign of respect to keep Godzilla's past allies alive and not blow them to smithereens.


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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Dr. Professor » Tue May 01, 2018 11:36 am

Anybody else really like X's voice in the dub? I typically don't like the Heisei and Millennium dubs (G2K aside), but I thought his voice was really fitting and the actor sounded like he was having a good time with it.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Zarm » Tue May 01, 2018 11:37 am

Agreed. I actually kind of enjoyed him more than his Japanese counterpart.
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Postby Monster Zero » Tue May 01, 2018 7:12 pm

I also 100% agree! He may be my favorite dubber in the entire franchise. It's so funny and unforgettable.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby JetrellFo » Thu May 03, 2018 4:50 pm

I don't take these films so serious that I can't even enjoy the premise of Final War. It is what it is and to me it's still fun regardless.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Jeff-Goldblum2 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:15 am

Rewatched Godzilla: Final Wars once again and just noticed some dialogue from Kumi Mizuno's commander character. She says "Dispatch Karyu"

Could this mean that Mechagodzilla is also in this film? Mechagodzilla does seem to be one of the more famous monsters noticeably absent in this movie.

Or is Karyu just another ship like the Gotengo?

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Maritonic » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:19 am

Jeff-Goldblum2 wrote:Rewatched Godzilla: Final Wars once again and just noticed some dialogue from Kumi Mizuno's commander character. She says "Dispatch Karyu"

Could this mean that Mechagodzilla is also in this film? Mechagodzilla does seem to be one of the more famous monsters noticeably absent in this movie.

Or is Karyu just another ship like the Gotengo?


Karyu is the flying battle station that goes after Anguirus. Kiryu (Mechagodzilla) is very obviously not in the film.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Goji » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:03 am

..Wat. Kiryu obviously isn't in the film. Was this your first time watching GFW?
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Zarm » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:04 am

Goji wrote:..Wat. Kiryu obviously isn't in the film. Was this your first time watching GFW?


I think he meant 'could it exist in this film universe, despite not being seen onscreen?'.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Goji » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:31 pm

Probably, but it was poorly worded.

Wasn't Kiryu originally planned to be in this before they settled on the Gotengo instead? I honestly can't remember for the life of me if that's true, or was always just a rumor.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Maritonic » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:36 pm

Goji wrote:Probably, but it was poorly worded.

Wasn't Kiryu originally planned to be in this before they settled on the Gotengo instead? I honestly can't remember for the life of me if that's true, or was always just a rumor.


I would have absolutely preferred Kiryu over Gotengo, that would have been awesome to see.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Godzillian » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:38 pm

Goji wrote:Probably, but it was poorly worded.

Wasn't Kiryu originally planned to be in this before they settled on the Gotengo instead? I honestly can't remember for the life of me if that's true, or was always just a rumor.

The story goes they were thinking of throwing in Kiryu but since it was in the last 2 films that it was "redundant".
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby GojiDog » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:41 am

Including Kiryu would have been interesting. Godzilla/Mechagodzilla Team up? Never seen that before. But then it would have to have been a sequel to Tokyo SOS and the Millennium Series don't play like that!

But honestly, it could have worked. Godzilla was neutralized at the end of Tokyo SOS in a way that would have kept him out of the events setting up Final Wars. Instead of having to do a prologue setting up Godzilla, again, and instead of going to the ice base, they could have just had the Gotengo go to the bottom of the ocean to wake up Kiryu and Godzilla to fight the monsters.

And yes, I'd have kept the Gotengo in the film, even with Kiryu/Mechagodzilla involved...come on! That was neat. I also kind of have a soft spot for Atragon the film so I dug it.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Dr. Professor » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:06 am

I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to bring back an evil MechaGodzilla. Also this film is sorely missing Jet Jaguar.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Zarm » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:30 am

Dr. Professor wrote:I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to bring back an evil MechaGodzilla. Also this film is sorely missing Jet Jaguar.


True, but I think the same could be said of most films. Even ones that aren't in the Godzilla series or made in Japan. :)

Saving Private Ryan? Sorely missing Jet Jaguar. Sleepless in Seattle? Also sorely missing Jet Jaguar. Jurassic Park? Would still have benefited from more Jet Jaguar.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Dr. Professor » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:43 am

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Dr. Professor wrote:I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to bring back an evil MechaGodzilla. Also this film is sorely missing Jet Jaguar.


True, but I think the same could be said of most films. Even ones that aren't in the Godzilla series or made in Japan. :)

Saving Private Ryan? Sorely missing Jet Jaguar. Sleepless in Seattle? Also sorely missing Jet Jaguar. Jurassic Park? Would still have benefited from more Jet Jaguar.

Citizen Kane? Needs Jet Jaguar. Home Alone? Needs Jet Jaguar. Scream? Needs Jet Jaguar. Gone With The Wind? Where's he at?
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby Zarm » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:04 am

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Dr. Professor wrote:I think this would have been a perfect opportunity to bring back an evil MechaGodzilla. Also this film is sorely missing Jet Jaguar.


True, but I think the same could be said of most films. Even ones that aren't in the Godzilla series or made in Japan. :)

Saving Private Ryan? Sorely missing Jet Jaguar. Sleepless in Seattle? Also sorely missing Jet Jaguar. Jurassic Park? Would still have benefited from more Jet Jaguar.

Citizen Kane? Needs Jet Jaguar. Home Alone? Needs Jet Jaguar. Scream? Needs Jet Jaguar. Gone With The Wind? Where's he at?


See, Gone with the Wind, I can forgive; they did not yet know what they were missing back then.

But Home Alone with Jet Jaguar? I need to see that movie.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:08 am

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Zarm wrote:
True, but I think the same could be said of most films. Even ones that aren't in the Godzilla series or made in Japan. :)

Saving Private Ryan? Sorely missing Jet Jaguar. Sleepless in Seattle? Also sorely missing Jet Jaguar. Jurassic Park? Would still have benefited from more Jet Jaguar.

Citizen Kane? Needs Jet Jaguar. Home Alone? Needs Jet Jaguar. Scream? Needs Jet Jaguar. Gone With The Wind? Where's he at?


See, Gone with the Wind, I can forgive; they did not yet know what they were missing back then.

But Home Alone with Jet Jaguar? I need to see that movie.

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