Monster Discussion #56: Grand King Ghidorah

[GojiDog]

He has a plan and he wants to enact it, but that just makes me want to ask why is he doing what he's doing? I mean what good does it do Ghidorah to kill all the dinosaurs and kill all humanity?

He was eating. The dome was a giant stomach that fills with acid and digests the children inside. Once the dome was finished consuming them it would turn into another meteor and allow him to travel to another planet. He abducts children because they are younger and have more life energy in them for him to feed off of. It's the reverse of Death Ghidorah from the first RoM movie who targeted plant life because trees live longer than humans or animals.

This was explained perfectly well in the film.

Oh...that actually makes more sense now, lol.

OK I retract my earlier statement.

Doesn't necessarily save the film for me, but at least it makes it, at least a little less weird.

[MechaGoji Bro7503]

^Holy skreeonk that's terrifying. I haven't seen this film but damn Ghidorah, you're even more cold-blooded than I thought.

[Gigantis]

Big bump incoming.

I love this incarnation of Ghodorah, one of my favorites..but it really feels like Toho also wasted a chance to make another new monster. Like what happened to that fire monster idea they had? Or heck even the idea of making Rodan the villain?

I feel like there was a really big missed opportunity here, even though i feel satisfied with what i have. Is that weird?

[Terasawa]

According to several Japanese works, Rodan was the villain in an early story concept for ROM3.

[godjacob]

I am really curious how they would have upgraded Rodan to compete with Leo if they went through with it, though honestly this movie funny enough would have been a good one to use Bagan for as a unique final foe for Leo.

[Gigantis]

I am really curious how they would have upgraded Rodan to compete with Leo if they went through with it, though honestly this movie funny enough would have been a good one to use Bagan for as a unique final foe for Leo.

Bagan was suppose to be in all three ROM films, and he was scrapped. Every. Single. Time.

As for Rodan, they probably would have given him similar powers to Grand King, minus the whole eat children ordeal. Lasers are certain because..Heisei Era. I imagine he would also be pretty big, certainly no puppet like the first Heisei Rodan is.

[godjacob]

I am really curious how they would have upgraded Rodan to compete with Leo if they went through with it, though honestly this movie funny enough would have been a good one to use Bagan for as a unique final foe for Leo.

Bagan was suppose to be in all three ROM films, and he was scrapped. Every. Single. Time.

As for Rodan, they probably would have given him similar powers to Grand King, minus the whole eat children ordeal. Lasers are certain because..Heisei Era. I imagine he would also be pretty big, certainly no puppet like the first Heisei Rodan is.

Poor Bagan can't get a win with Toho. Though he wins too much in KWC so I guess it balances out XD

DID SOMEBODY ASK FOR LASERS!?
-Toho in the Heisei Era.

[Gigantis]

DID SOMEBODY ASK FOR LASERS!?
-Toho in the Heisei Era.

Yeah that was them alright. I actually herd a rumor that the guy in charge of the special effects hated the idea of the monsters fighting "like wrestlers". Though if anything that probably damaged the films reputation a bit.

[godjacob]

DID SOMEBODY ASK FOR LASERS!?
-Toho in the Heisei Era.

Yeah that was them alright. I actually herd a rumor that the guy in charge of the special effects hated the idea of the monsters fighting "like wrestlers". Though if anything that probably damaged the films reputation a bit.

I don't mind lasers, I do feel flashy explosions and the like can add to the spectacle of it all. But there has to be a balance there, some times where they get up close tooth and claw to clash to or use abilities in unique ways beyond just forward blasts.

[edgaguirus]

A mix of physical and beam fighting makes it more interesting.

[Omegazilla]

I can't stand the RoM trilogy, but the one aspect of that series I did always like were the villain kaiju. They were very menacing even if 2/3 of them were recycled in the form of Ghidorah. Having Ghidorah wipe out the dinosaurs and be an ancient destroyer was a unique and interesting take on the tri-headed Hydra.

[godjacob]

I can't stand the RoM trilogy, but the one aspect of that series I did always like were the villain kaiju. They were very menacing even if 2/3 of them were recycled in the form of Ghidorah. Having Ghidorah wipe out the dinosaurs and be an ancient destroyer was a unique and interesting take on the tri-headed Hydra.

It is unique for King Ghidorah. My only issue is that I believe Desghidorah had the exact same (Or close to) backstory in ROM 1. So two Ghidorah being an ancient killer character on top of both being versions of Ghidorah just seems repetitive.

But I do agree they do have some menace to them.

[ShinGojira14]

Grand King Ghidorah is what Showa Ghidorah should've stayed post-GTTHM and what MonsterVerse Ghidorah was built up to be but sadly failed to live up to: an uncontrollable, nigh-unstoppable sadistic destroyer of worlds who doesn't give a skreeonk. Grand and Showa are easily my two favorite King Ghidorah incarnations.

[edgaguirus]

Destroying the dinosaurs does add to the story. If he could eliminate one them, then there's no reason he couldn't do it to the next dominant species. GKG is like a reset button for the planet; He removes life, lets another take hold, and then returns to remove that one.

[shadowgigan]

Grand King Ghidorah is what Showa Ghidorah should've stayed post-GTTHM and what MonsterVerse Ghidorah was built up to be but sadly failed to live up to: an uncontrollable, nigh-unstoppable sadistic destroyer of worlds who doesn't give a skreeonk. Grand and Showa are easily my two favorite King Ghidorah incarnations.

His abilities are also very unique and creative. It was shocking seeing it for the first time. Not what one expects from Ghidorah.

[Desghidorah]

Frankly always found it hilarious how Bagan's DNA wound up in a huge chunk of the Heisei era films. And not just Bagan, but other unused concepts. Had they gone through with the original idea of making the rebirth trilogy canonical to the Godzilla Heisei saga (such as DesGhidorah being regenerated from the blown off head of Heisei Ghidorah), I do wonder if GKG would have been soft retconned in as the originator of the First DNA as was once intended.

[miguelnuva]

Grand King Ghidorah is what Showa Ghidorah should've stayed post-GTTHM and what MonsterVerse Ghidorah was built up to be but sadly failed to live up to: an uncontrollable, nigh-unstoppable sadistic destroyer of worlds who doesn't give a skreeonk. Grand and Showa are easily my two favorite King Ghidorah incarnations.

GKG kidnapped kids and destroyed one city before getting beat up by Mothra. MV Ghidorah wrecked the entire planet and caused Godzilla to fuse with Mothra after getting a previous powerup but MVG needs to look up to GKG?

[Spuro]

Grand King Ghidorah is what Showa Ghidorah should've stayed post-GTTHM and what MonsterVerse Ghidorah was built up to be but sadly failed to live up to: an uncontrollable, nigh-unstoppable sadistic destroyer of worlds who doesn't give a skreeonk. Grand and Showa are easily my two favorite King Ghidorah incarnations.

GKG kidnapped kids and destroyed one city before getting beat up by Mothra. MV Ghidorah wrecked the entire planet and caused Godzilla to fuse with Mothra after getting a previous powerup but MVG needs to look up to GKG?

You seem to be intentionally downplaying GKG. Armor Mothra is no joke.

[miguelnuva]

Grand King Ghidorah is what Showa Ghidorah should've stayed post-GTTHM and what MonsterVerse Ghidorah was built up to be but sadly failed to live up to: an uncontrollable, nigh-unstoppable sadistic destroyer of worlds who doesn't give a skreeonk. Grand and Showa are easily my two favorite King Ghidorah incarnations.

GKG kidnapped kids and destroyed one city before getting beat up by Mothra. MV Ghidorah wrecked the entire planet and caused Godzilla to fuse with Mothra after getting a previous powerup but MVG needs to look up to GKG?

You seem to be intentionally downplaying GKG. Armor Mothra is no joke.

Armor Mothra is powerful but GKG didn't do too much in his film. Rather Burning Godzilla could beat Armor Mothra is moot however as I'm comparing simply what the two Ghidorahs did. GKG was very isolated to what MVG did.

[edgaguirus]

GKG did exactly what was needed for the film he was in. There GKG is a big threat, handling everything Mothra Leo could hit him with. Even the younger version was a challenge, and still partly survived.

MV Ghidorah is a whole other beast and film. It's not after children, but the entire world, so it's going to look more powerful. They are two different versions, just as Toho Godzilla and MV Godzilla are.