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Gamera Arrow possible release?

Postby G-MAN » Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:02 am

Hey saw somewhere that some Gamera films were found on Arrow's apple tv channel. No idea if it's true or not but was wondering if anyone who has access to it knows if it's true?

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Re: Gamera Arrow possible release?

Postby goji1986 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:26 am

G-MAN wrote:Hey saw somewhere that some Gamera films were found on Arrow's apple tv channel. No idea if it's true or not but was wondering if anyone who has access to it knows if it's true?


The Apple TV app on my iPhone doesn't show anything Gamera-related under Arrow's channel.

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You are correct sir! While I couldn't find them on my phone, their website has a press release that confirms it.
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The ARROW VIDEO CHANNEL service gives cult movie fans the opportunity to watch a varied and curated selection of movies that the ARROW VIDEO brand has been famous for with many movie fans all over the world. From horror to sci-fi, thrillers to westerns, the ARROW VIDEO CHANNEL will launch with classic cult movies such as Takashi Miike’s “Audition,” the 70’s horror classic “The Hills Have Eyes,” Terry Gilliam’s “Tideland” and George A. Romero’s “The Crazies.” In the coming months the ARROW VIDEO CHANNEL will be adding in such cult classics as “Hellraiser,” the original Japanese “Ringu,” “House,” “Elvira: Mistress of the Dark” and a collection of the Japanese classic “Gamera” movies. In addition to Cult Classic movies on the service, the ARROW VIDEO CHANNEL will begin adding brand new movie releases, exclusive to the Channel, in 2020 as part of a new global strategy. This echoes the current ARROW VIDEO CHANNEL strategy in the UK of exclusive movies such as indie-horror, “Harpoon” and German horror “Hagazussa.”



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Postby Maritonic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:33 am

"Takashi Miike’s “Audition,” the 70’s horror classic “The Hills Have Eyes,” Terry Gilliam’s “Tideland” and George A. Romero’s “The Crazies.” In the coming months the ARROW VIDEO CHANNEL will be adding in such cult classics as “Hellraiser,” the original Japanese “Ringu,” “House,” “Elvira: Mistress of the Dark” "

Considering Arrow has done blu ray releases of Audition, The Hills Have Eyes, Tideland, The Crazies, Hellraiser, Ringu, House, *and* Elvira, I'd say it's a relatively safe assumption that a Gamera release could be down the pipeline.
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SOUND THE ALARM!! WE MAY HAVE A LIVE ONE, FOLKS!
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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:08 am

I will laugh my ass off if Arrow and Kadokawa manage to upstage Toho's Criterion's Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films

Hell, supposedly they went for the Criterion set because they were a bit embarrassed that the Gamera series was almost entirely available in one place, while Godzilla was split up and inconsistently available. If that's true, maybe a good set of Gamera releases could shame them into lifting a finger on some new transfers.
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Postby Maritonic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:10 am

omgitsgodzilla wrote:I will laugh my ass off if Arrow and Kadokawa manage to upstage Toho's Criterion's Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films


As much as I do love the Criterion set we're getting (I'm easy to please), I think Arrow would do a better job with a Gamera set. Just in my personal experience with Toho, their politics/decisions, the ease of Gamera releases, and the passion and quality of Arrow's releases.

If this does become some sort of set, or singular release of some kind, I'd be very exicted and very pleased.
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Re: Gamera Arrow possible release?

Postby omgitsgodzilla » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:16 am

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omgitsgodzilla wrote:I will laugh my ass off if Arrow and Kadokawa manage to upstage Toho's Criterion's Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films


As much as I do love the Criterion set we're getting (I'm easy to please), I think Arrow would do a better job with a Gamera set. Just in my personal experience with Toho, their politics/decisions, the ease of Gamera releases, and the passion and quality of Arrow's releases.

If this does become some sort of set, or singular release of some kind, I'd be very exicted and very pleased.

For all my frustration with the limitations of the Criterion set, I am glad it's coming out. But yeah, I think a hypothetical Arrow set or line of releases stands a good chance of being an overall better presentation of the films and possibly the various dubs. Maybe we'll finally get some English versions of the first film and Barugon on a proper release.
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Postby o.supreme » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:50 am

omgitsgodzilla wrote:I will laugh my ass off if Arrow and Kadokawa manage to upstage Toho's Criterion's Godzilla: The Showa-Era Films

Hell, supposedly they went for the Criterion set because they were a bit embarrassed that the Gamera series was almost entirely available in one place, while Godzilla was split up and inconsistently available. If that's true, maybe a good set of Gamera releases could shame them into lifting a finger on some new transfers.


Yeah Kadokawa/Daiei seem to be much easier to deal with than Toho. I mean, they allowed S!F to produce great DVD's, AND allowed the MST3K versions of those films to be released as well. The omissions of Gammera The Invincible as well as the Sandy Frank English dub of Gamera, and BOTH English dubs of War of the Monsters/ G vs. Barugon had less to do with Kadokawa, and more to do with S!F not willing to spend the extra time/money to obtain those elements IIRC.

Those three elements are the only things lacking from the S!F dvd's. If Arrow were to produce a BRD set that had everything the previous S!F dvd's had, PLUS those three missing elements, then I could literally sell off my S!F dvd's AND Mill Creek BRD's,

Taking it one step further, if they obtained everything Mill Creek had previously, that includes the 3 Heisei films. That leaves the only quesiton...How long did/does Media Blasters have licensing rights for Gamera the Brave? Their dvd and BRD are long OOP (I still haven't opened my BRD of that film, and it goes for quite a price on the secondary market).

If they were able to package all 12 films together, with all the English dubs (The Whole Enchilada!) That would blow the Godzilla Criterion set out of the water.
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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:09 am

I'd love a new disc of Gamera the Brave if they could swing it. Not much they could do for the video, since it's digital, but the existing Blu has a really serious problem with the music and effects on the English audio tracks.
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o.supreme wrote:Yeah Kadokawa/Daiei seem to be much easier to deal with than Toho. I mean, they allowed S!F to produce great DVD's, AND allowed the MST3K versions of those films to be released as well. The omissions of Gammera The Invincible as well as the Sandy Frank English dub of Gamera, and BOTH English dubs of War of the Monsters/ G vs. Barugon had less to do with Kadokawa, and more to do with S!F not willing to spend the extra time/money to obtain those elements IIRC.

Those three elements are the only things lacking from the S!F dvd's. If Arrow were to produce a BRD set that had everything the previous S!F dvd's had, PLUS those three missing elements, then I could literally sell off my S!F dvd's AND Mill Creek BRD's,

From what I understand, a number of individuals came forward with those versions, but Shout! more or less denied their involvement for some reason.

If Mill Creek can get the two AI-TV Daimajin dubs in immaculate quality, why can't a company like Arrow?
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Postby Joseph Goodman » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:38 am

Hopefully Arrow can convince the UCLA Film & Television Archive to not be dicks about access to the Gammera The Invincible elements they have, this time around.

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Postby omgitsgodzilla » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:53 am

Joseph Goodman wrote:Hopefully Arrow can convince the UCLA Film & Television Archive to not be dicks about access to the Gammera The Invincible elements they have, this time around.

Do we know what the HD version on Amazon is sourced from?
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Postby UltramanGoji » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:08 am

This would be awesome. I'd love to finally can my Mill Creek Blu-Rays for something more definitive.
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Postby Joseph Goodman » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:24 am

omgitsgodzilla wrote:Do we know what the HD version on Amazon is sourced from?


I think it's from a 35mm release print; it's also missing some of the shots of American jet pilots.

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omgitsgodzilla wrote:Do we know what the HD version on Amazon is sourced from?


I think it's from a 35mm release print; it's also missing some of the shots of American jet pilots.

Right; I heard that about the jet pilots. Do we know what the copy UCLA has is? The person in that thread calls it a print but I don't know if that's just imprecise language or what
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Postby MaxRebo320 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:54 am

It would be nice to have that Gammera print on Blu-Ray, even with the missing scenes.

And I guess I’m REALLY jumping to conclusions here by saying this, but if Gamera BDs do come to fruition, I’d love to see more titles from Daiei’s SFX catalog (Not just the Yokai films, but also the likes of Demon of Mt. Oe and especially Whale God, which is honestly superior to most Toho Kaiju films) While not as large, I’d call it just as diverse as Toho’s, maybe even slightly more so.
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Postby Terasawa » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:04 am

MaxRebo320 wrote:I’d love to see more titles from Daiei’s SFX catalog (Not just the Yokai films, but also the likes of Demon of Mt. Oe and especially Whale God


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Re: Gamera Arrow possible release?

Postby G-MAN » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:41 am

I would love to see what they could do with the set they put out in Japan a few years back with the show a films finally recieiving a proper hd remaster and if I'm not mistaken the Heisei along with gamera the brave were 4k masters. But it could just he the Heisei series.

I would love if they could do stuff that Neptune did along the lines of editing the original dubs to play along with some of the classic films. As I would love for all dubs to be on this set as arrow is great when it comes to extras usually and even restoring deleted scenes and making extended cuts of big movies like they have done with some John Hughes movies lately I've noticed.

And yeah honestly I don't see how these can't top the crietiom set just in terms of the films seem to be in much better shape and care than the Godzilla films and have much more recent transfers for them. Just hope this extends to the entire series as it would be awesome to have it all under arrow. Love the artwork they come up with for the films too. And while I doubt it will be. Even if this is a region b locked set as some arrow releases can be if another company owns the distribution rights in the states. But I think we don't have to worry about that, but even if so it will still be worth it to rip them and burn them to play here as opposed to paying hundreds of dollars for the Japanese set.

Also on a side note I've noticed some of the gamera films are availble free to watch in HD subtitled mostly on vudu if anyone cares for that.

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MaxRebo320 wrote:It would be nice to have that Gammera print on Blu-Ray, even with the missing scenes.

And I guess I’m REALLY jumping to conclusions here by saying this, but if Gamera BDs do come to fruition, I’d love to see more titles from Daiei’s SFX catalog (Not just the Yokai films, but also the likes of Demon of Mt. Oe and especially Whale God, which is honestly superior to most Toho Kaiju films) While not as large, I’d call it just as diverse as Toho’s, maybe even slightly more so.


I agree as even rifftrax has access to an HD print of the film I believe for their somewhat recent riff on it. Which regardless of its state is pretty cheap as you can actual get a digital download file for it in case they don't use it on the bluray as it's better than the old Neptune video just for the fact it's in HD lol
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Postby o.supreme » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:46 am

^ So...Terasawa, thanks for your response both here, and at MZ forums about the *best source* for AIP-TV Gamera films. What in your opinion is the *Best* source currently of Gammera the Invincible? Neptune Media's version (I actually have this VHS), the version streaming on Amazon currently, or another source perhaps? (I cant comment on the UCLA one since I don't know much about it)

Also, I have the Rifftax version of Gammera the Invincible, I assume it's using the same source as the one on Amazon currently?
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