they certainly aren't cinephiles that demand that the old 60s film you are foisting onto them is given a pristine presentation.
Except that this is literally something that everyone would want, so this argument doesn't work. Everyone *except* small children would care about this.
Maybe you misunderstood.
If we are talking "little kids"....well whip out the DVDs that exist and show them that, they certainly aren't cinephiles that demand that the old 60s film you are foisting onto them is given a pristine presentation.
The little kids that you would potentially show these films to are NOT "cinephiles that demand those 60s films are pristine". Little kids will watch anything. As I said, my nephew solidified his fandom finding Showa fight scenes on YouTube in sub-HD quality.
All of the Alt-Versions are for the cinephiles, and I'm sorry you aren't getting your upgrade.
On a sincerely positive note, I love the full circle of the fandom where now the "purist" standpoint is to demand the various Alt-Versions of all of the films. We've come a long way from begging for Japanese Audio with Subs and Widescreen presentations. I used to be all-in for that, but in terms of my movie collection I've largely just lost the interest in collecting multiple cuts of the same movie. Added in 13 minutes 42 seconds:
goji89 wrote: Lecontinentperdu wrote:
Guess im just happy with whats coming for Christmas. A cheerful guy in grumpy land.
Hell yeah brother.....there are more people happy for it than not.
I'll always hope for better, for the best. I win the lotto big enough, I'll fund 4K restorations of every film and take none of the profits. I'll fund new dubs, recreations, rebuilds, whatever.
SHOULD we get the very best? Yes.
In my experience as a Godzilla fan, DO we EVER get the very best? Pretty much never. I'm a realist and I know Toho's ways. Collecting Godzilla has basically always been a battle of compromise.
Best case scenario is that this somehow works out well long-term, that Criterion playing nice keeps them in play for something in the future. Maybe Toho pulls their heads out of their rears and shells out for the restored brilliance of every film, and gives Criterion access. Maybe 5 years down the road, Criterion is able to grab up the first 50 years of Godzilla films for a 30 disc mega collection. I'm not saying I would NOT want that. I don't know how realistic of a dream it is, but I would be all for it.
But I don't have the following logic: "I'll stick to my crappier DVDs because they have the alt-version I want and because this set isn't everything I dreamed of"
"I didn't get as big of a raise as I wanted so I'm refusing ANY raise at all!"
The amount of anger and frustration people have over a few people being POSITIVE about this shows how much of a negative mind-set some really have.