Original Monsters in World of Godzilla

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What kind of rugs do you have that look like this?

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Vakanai wrote: My problem is that to me he's always kind of looked like a dirty rug with eyes. Dirty, mildewy bathroom rug that grew eyes and decided that it was going to be a kaiju.

Even for a pollution monster dirty rug is a lame design.
I’m pretty sure they were going for more of a goopy mass of sludge design, but that’s kind of hard to translate into a solid suit. Iirc Tsuburaya had passed away right before this film, so that probably didn’t help things. Considering the circumstances, I think that they did a really good job with Hedorah. I like that his final form “glistens” as a nod to his cosmic origin.

If Hedorah were to be done with today’s technology, there’s no doubt that he’d look phenomenal.
I'm sure that they did the best they could, and doing a goop monster in a solid suit is hard...but he still came out a rug monster ultimately.

And agreed, you could do the idea justice in CGI, but you'd have to change the idea and not use the solid rug design. My ideal Hedorah would look more like the Blob done as a tsunami of sludge and pollution, but that's not a popular idea here.
Honestly think that he looks pretty good. I thought the several forms were really interesting and the effects used to make the glowing and pulsating cracks atop his head were done very well.

As for a modern design, I think he should have a tangible form, but have it be kind of changing and morphing as if he’s barely holding himself together, or have his body be built to be versatile and adapt to incoming attacks. They could also go with how the concept art looks. https://wikizilla.org/w/images/7/7c/Hedorah.jpg https://wikizilla.org/w/images/c/c3/Con ... orah_1.png

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Nothing about Hedorah's texture says "rug" to me in any way.
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^This is a thread for what ORIGINAL monsters you'd like to see, not pre-existing ones.

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It would be cool for Toho to bring back scrapped monsters, like Redmoon.
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Terasawa wrote:What kind of rugs do you have that look like this?

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None, I throw them out before they get even close to that bad. But I've seen some rugs left outside too long get somewhere about there yes.

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KaijuDude810 wrote:
Vakanai wrote:
KaijuDude810 wrote: I’m pretty sure they were going for more of a goopy mass of sludge design, but that’s kind of hard to translate into a solid suit. Iirc Tsuburaya had passed away right before this film, so that probably didn’t help things. Considering the circumstances, I think that they did a really good job with Hedorah. I like that his final form “glistens” as a nod to his cosmic origin.

If Hedorah were to be done with today’s technology, there’s no doubt that he’d look phenomenal.
I'm sure that they did the best they could, and doing a goop monster in a solid suit is hard...but he still came out a rug monster ultimately.

And agreed, you could do the idea justice in CGI, but you'd have to change the idea and not use the solid rug design. My ideal Hedorah would look more like the Blob done as a tsunami of sludge and pollution, but that's not a popular idea here.
Honestly think that he looks pretty good. I thought the several forms were really interesting and the effects used to make the glowing and pulsating cracks atop his head were done very well.

As for a modern design, I think he should have a tangible form, but have it be kind of changing and morphing as if he’s barely holding himself together, or have his body be built to be versatile and adapt to incoming attacks. They could also go with how the concept art looks. https://wikizilla.org/w/images/7/7c/Hedorah.jpg https://wikizilla.org/w/images/c/c3/Con ... orah_1.png
I thought his streamlined flying form was alright. Only praise I'll ever give his design on here.

Changing and morphing could work, but again that'd get away from him looking the way he does, which is frowned on here.

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Okay, to get back to the topic, how about something that both flies and spews deadly gas? Only things I liked about Hedorah, but for a monster that doesn't walk on two legs. Really get a jet propelled kaiju that's all about flying. There's plenty of flyers, but they rely on wing power. Jet or rocket based propulsion is something that you don't see too much of. Just Gamera and kind of Hedorah. There's a lot left unexplored with the concept.
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Here's another idea : Why not feature more kaiju inspired by traditional Asian folklore, whether it be from Japan or abroad? That territory is a goldmine of untapped potential for new kaiju. Just a few examples include your typical multi-armed Hindu deity not unlike the Kali statue for those of you familiar with the works of Ray Harryhausen, or a Baku (A dream-eating Tapir-like creature).
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How about The Rainbow Serpent from Indigenous Australian folklore, maybe as sort of a King Ghidorah world-ended or more of a traditional deity kaiju like Manda.
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I'm all for new monsters.

I've said this before, but part of what drew me to the series as a kid was just the simple pleasure of getting to see what Godzilla was going to fight next. With each entry I watched, I was blown away by the variety of opponents, which seemed to get increasingly colorful and wild.

In recent years, the tendency has been to rely on bringing back classic monsters, which has its own appeal, but after a while, I kind of wish the menagerie of monsters would keep growing. Its one of the reasons I like the additions of the MUTOs, The Skullcrawlers, and even the cameo bunch from KOTM. Its always good to get monsters in there to freshen things up.

So if World of Godzilla can give us some more new potential stars, I'll be happy.
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Maybe something with an aura, something eerie and otherworldly, maybe even ghost like. Could be a floating dead kaiju corpse with "ghost fire" surrounding it's body.

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In addition to new monsters, they should try to salvage various monsters from the cutting room floor. For example, Mogu, Redmoon and of course, Bagan.
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I've been thinking, I want to see more wild and weird monsters in World Of Godzilla. Things like a giant version of Skeleton Turtle, something with see through skin, more weird alien monsters like Gigan and actual supernatural creatures.

The Monsterverse is doing a really good of realistic versions of the monsters, so why not go in the other direction.

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kingkevzilla88 wrote: something with see through skin,
A monster made of glass?
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Gigantis wrote:
kingkevzilla88 wrote: something with see through skin,
A monster made of glass?
Well sort of, I got the idea from a news story about new species of frog that has transparent skin. I just thought that would be an interesting idea, then it reminded me about those anatomy pictures of kaiju.

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kingkevzilla88 wrote:
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kingkevzilla88 wrote: something with see through skin,
A monster made of glass?
Well sort of, I got the idea from a news story about new species of frog that has transparent skin. I just thought that would be an interesting idea, then it reminded me about those anatomy pictures of kaiju.
Funny enough, glass frogs was what inspired me to make my Godzilla have see through skin in my fanfic before I lost interest and didn't finish it.

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Living Corpse wrote:
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A monster made of glass?
Well sort of, I got the idea from a news story about new species of frog that has transparent skin. I just thought that would be an interesting idea, then it reminded me about those anatomy pictures of kaiju.
Funny enough, glass frogs was what inspired me to make my Godzilla have see through skin in my fanfic before I lost interest and didn't finish it.
That would have been interesting.

I'm trying to think how something like this could be done as suitatmation. It would be early done with CGI, but I would like to see it done the old fashioned way.

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^It would be impossible to pull something like that off with traditional suitmation.

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LegendZilla wrote:^It would be impossible to pull something like that off with traditional suitmation.
I've thought of a way that it could be done. So bare with, start with a thin back suit, then sculpt all bone,organs and muscles over of it. Then use CGI to add a transparent layer over it. That could work, right?

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You know what? Let's have a monsters who's omniscent. A.K.A: A monster who can literally see everything and anything on Earth and is impossible to pull something like a surprise attack on.
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Maybe a variant of a space monster. More alien like than we’ve seen before. Multiple eyes etc.

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