Talkback: Varan (1958)
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^You can see why I was surprised lol.
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Yes, both are masterpieces, but Kong is WAY more popular than Gojira.eabaker wrote:I don't know that I'd put it above Gojira, but I'd say both of them are pretty much masterpieces.Lain Of The Wired wrote:I think King Kong outranks all of those TBH…eabaker wrote:^I'd rank both King Kong and The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms above a few of those, including Varan.
I find the Japanese version watchable, at times entertaining, but hardly something to passionately aspire to.
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^....so?
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What the hell do you mean "so?", I was just saying Kong is the most popular giant monster, that's it. Kong just kinda outranks them all.tymon wrote:^....so?
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I'd actually say that Godzilla has a more visible pop culture presence than Kong, and has for quite some time.
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I found Daikaiju Varan to be decently enjoyable. Not one of Toho's greats, but still pretty good. Typical 50s monster movie with the Toho flair. I probably wouldn't list it among my favorites, but I do like it.
Varan the Unbelievable was unwatchable for me. Unbearably slow-paced and boring.
Varan the Unbelievable was unwatchable for me. Unbearably slow-paced and boring.
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I didn't mean Godzilla in general, I meant the film King Kong compared to Gojira, King Kong is more well known.eabaker wrote:I'd actually say that Godzilla has a more visible pop culture presence than Kong, and has for quite some time.
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In America, it probably is. In Japan, the film Gojira may outrank Kong. People do tend to support their homegrown stars and characters.
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Again, why is that relevant? We were having a discussion about quality. We all already know that Kong is the most popular.Lain Of The Wired wrote:What the hell do you mean "so?", I was just saying Kong is the most popular giant monster, that's it. Kong just kinda outranks them all.tymon wrote:^....so?
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Even if we're discussing quality, the original King Kong is mostly considered the superior film, even though not by much. It's also the more influential film as well.tymon wrote:We were having a discussion about quality. We all already know that Kong is the most popular.
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But, of course, the initial point here was that Kong pretty clearly outranks Varan in both quality and popularity.
I will also add that the, "Scream for your life, Ann!" scene is easily one of the greatest metatextual moments in the history of cinema.
I will also add that the, "Scream for your life, Ann!" scene is easily one of the greatest metatextual moments in the history of cinema.
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Re: Talkback: Varan (1958)
Not likely. Varan's best chance is to appear in another Godzilla film.
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^ Pretty much.
He was going to appear in GMK at one point before that being reconsidered. So the attention is there, in a way if that counts.
He was going to appear in GMK at one point before that being reconsidered. So the attention is there, in a way if that counts.
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Re: Talkback: Varan (1958)
We can always hope that Kaneko returns to direct another G-film, and Toho doesn't stop him from using Varan this time. Or that a new director comes along who is a Varan fan. I thought I read somewhere that Toho wants to give directors a little more freedom.
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Fixed.KaijuFiend wrote:I found Daikaiju Varan to be decently enjoyable. Not one of Toho's greats, but still pretty good. Typical 50s monster movie with the Toho flair. I probably wouldn't list it among my favorites, but I do like it.
Varan the Unbelievable was unwatchable for me. Unbelievably slow-paced and boring.
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Re: Talkback: Varan (1958)
Am I the only one who doesn't hate Varan the Unbelievable?
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Re: Talkback: Varan (1958)
Hey, as far as I'm concerned, it's VARAN THE BELIEVABLE! I'm a believer.djkgoji wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't hate Varan the Unbelievable?
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Re: Talkback: Varan (1958)
I find Commander James Bradley comical really. He's such a unlikable smug douchebag you can't help but watch him. He's at least more memorable than the stock Toho archetypes portrayed by B players in Giant Monster Varan.djkgoji wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't hate Varan the Unbelievable?
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Re: Talkback: Varan (1958)
Not sure if anyone has seen this, but here is the poster for the presumed lost International dub of the film.
http://s222.photobucket.com/user/Ramses ... r.jpg.html
http://s222.photobucket.com/user/Ramses ... r.jpg.html
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