Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1964)

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How much of the US soundtrack for this has been found? I've found a few tracks on youtube, but I was wondering if anyone had ever made a playlist of all the tracks, or knew where to find them
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Locutus wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:20 pm In 3 headed monster we know the Venusian lady says that within a day Ghidorah turned Venus into a "dead world" destroying the Venusian civilization.


My question is, did Ghidorah only destroy Venus civilization (buildings and cities) or did he completely annihilate all life on Venus surface? Seems a bit vague with how it was wordes. Ik decades ago Venus was thought of to be earth like, is it possible Ghidorah reduced the original earth like Venus into the barren wasteland that rains acid as we know it?
A "day" on Venus last 116 Earth days. We don't know if The Venusian was using Earth time when telling her story-we'll assume she is- so that would give Ghidorah plenty of time to destroy all life, or do enough damage to cause environmental conditions to change.
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I always assumed Venus had been destroyed by Ghidorah centuries or thousands of years in the past
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ROMG4 wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:49 pm I always assumed Venus had been destroyed by Ghidorah centuries or thousands of years in the past
He did' over 5000 years ago but it only took him a day to destroy Venus or as another poster mention, it was a 116 earth days in Venus time. So it took Ghidorah almost four months to destroy all of Venus!

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Showa King Ghidorah had 5 appearances total (Including Zone Fighter) and this is the only time he acted of his own free will.

Quite sad.
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tlyon2 wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:11 pm
ROMG4 wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:49 pm I always assumed Venus had been destroyed by Ghidorah centuries or thousands of years in the past
He did' over 5000 years ago but it only took him a day to destroy Venus or as another poster mention, it was a 116 earth days in Venus time. So it took Ghidorah almost four months to destroy all of Venus!

I think we’re just meant to assume that she meant one Earth day. Because in a guide book, it was stated that KG destroyed Venus in “no time”, meaning he did it quite fast.

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godjacob wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:29 pm Showa King Ghidorah had 5 appearances total (Including Zone Fighter) and this is the only time he acted of his own free will.

Quite sad.
Atleast he didn’t get his life ended in his first appearance. Imagine dying to Godzilla alone and it’s your first appearance. Sad.
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Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:44 pm
tlyon2 wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:11 pm
ROMG4 wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:49 pm I always assumed Venus had been destroyed by Ghidorah centuries or thousands of years in the past
He did' over 5000 years ago but it only took him a day to destroy Venus or as another poster mention, it was a 116 earth days in Venus time. So it took Ghidorah almost four months to destroy all of Venus!

I think we’re just meant to assume that she meant one Earth day. Because in a guide book, it was stated that KG destroyed Venus in “no time”, meaning he did it quite fast.

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godjacob wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:29 pm Showa King Ghidorah had 5 appearances total (Including Zone Fighter) and this is the only time he acted of his own free will.

Quite sad.
Atleast he didn’t get his life ended in his first appearance. Imagine dying to Godzilla alone and it’s your first appearance. Sad.
I am not sure which Ghidorah this is meant to be a shot at, but guessing it is one all the same.

Either way the destroyer of worlds kinda loses some impact when he is just an alien female dog in all but one of his appearances, which is why this is easily the best appearance for Showa Ghidorah and why I prefer this film vs. the (Probably objectively better) Invasion of the Astro Monster.
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godjacob wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:48 pm
Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:44 pm
tlyon2 wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:11 pm

He did' over 5000 years ago but it only took him a day to destroy Venus or as another poster mention, it was a 116 earth days in Venus time. So it took Ghidorah almost four months to destroy all of Venus!

I think we’re just meant to assume that she meant one Earth day. Because in a guide book, it was stated that KG destroyed Venus in “no time”, meaning he did it quite fast.

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godjacob wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:29 pm Showa King Ghidorah had 5 appearances total (Including Zone Fighter) and this is the only time he acted of his own free will.

Quite sad.
Atleast he didn’t get his life ended in his first appearance. Imagine dying to Godzilla alone and it’s your first appearance. Sad.
I am not sure which Ghidorah this is meant to be a shot at, but guessing it is one all the same.

Either way the destroyer of worlds kinda loses some impact when he is just an alien female dog in all but one of his appearances, which is why this is easily the best appearance for Showa Ghidorah and why I prefer this film vs. the (Probably objectively better) Invasion of the Astro Monster.
I shot the insult at every Ghidorah but Showa.
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Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:59 pm
godjacob wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:48 pm
Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:44 pm


I think we’re just meant to assume that she meant one Earth day. Because in a guide book, it was stated that KG destroyed Venus in “no time”, meaning he did it quite fast.

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Atleast he didn’t get his life ended in his first appearance. Imagine dying to Godzilla alone and it’s your first appearance. Sad.
I am not sure which Ghidorah this is meant to be a shot at, but guessing it is one all the same.

Either way the destroyer of worlds kinda loses some impact when he is just an alien female dog in all but one of his appearances, which is why this is easily the best appearance for Showa Ghidorah and why I prefer this film vs. the (Probably objectively better) Invasion of the Astro Monster.
I shot the insult at every Ghidorah but Showa.
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Doesn't seem to imply to Ghidorah of the MV, given well he is a ghost in the shell with Mechagodzilla. Plus there was a previous encounter between it and Godzilla/Mothra in ancient times.
And Grand never fought Godzilla. He fought the walking mary sue that is Mothra Leo. Plus Heisei/MV/Keizer required human aid (And Mothra aid in MV's case) to defeat not just Godzilla alone.

But still, I think Ghidorah living is worse here. Given he just becomes a mindless puppet for every alien race thereafter with less and less agency each time it appears.
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Voyager wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:59 pm I shot the insult at every Ghidorah but Showa.
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We'll buy Mothra a drink. She'll have a stinger.
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edgaguirus wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:08 pm We'll buy Mothra a drink. She'll have a stinger.
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I wholeheartedly agree that King Ghidorah's portrayal here is better than it is in the rest of the Showa series. The wire work got better in the next film but the idea of the big bad destroyer of worlds being an alien slave in every subsequent appearance is most uncool. I would love to see the reverse done at some point, where King Ghidorah is mind controlling the leader of an alien race in order to have them as backup, sorta like a mix of Godzilla vs The Robot Monster and Godzilla: The Planet Eater.
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This is one of the best Showa films and Godzilla films. The plot is decent and can keep non fans interested enough to not walk away and of course builds up the to epic showdown that we all know and love. I like how this pretty much introduced aliens into the series. Something that never really went away and probably never will. I like how Godzilla and Rodan are still depicted as menaces at first but how they join forces when the blatantly bigger threat aka Ghidorah shows up. I also love the famous scene of Rodan and Godzilla laughing at each other getting webbed. It is the first time we really saw these monsters have an actual personality. The final battle is of course stellar and set a benchmark for kaiju group fights that rarely has been matched. Even non fans generally know who Godzilla, Mothra, Ghidorah, and Rodan all are and it is mostly this movie they have to thank for it.

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