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Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:44 pm
by LSD Jellyfish
Im weighing watching Gamera Gaurdian of the Universe, or vampire doll after getting lunch today. I’d always prefer to watch something new, but I’m considering saving some horror films for October.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:23 pm
by Vakanai
Terasawa wrote:If the big films flop though what incentive does a studio have to license another property at all? Rampage, The Meg, and even Power Rangers at least were made and released before KOTM disappointed.

The only way I think we'll see an American Gamera is if GvK is a big success. And even if it underperforms I think we could see one if the property was licensed before that event, but I think the other studios are waiting out what happens with that film before looking to other potential monster films.

1. Sure they were made before KOTM, but they were also made after Godzilla, Kong, and PacRim 1 were successful. And now Rampage and The Meg are successes. There is some wiggle room here to argue for moderate budgeted films even if KOTM flopped.
2. Why on earth should we assume GvK is going to flop? The circumstances are very different.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:51 pm
by Millenial88
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UK ONLY GAMERA BLU-RAY SET FROM ARROW COMING NEXT YEAR

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:58 pm
by G-Matt
^There's a chance the set will be released by Arrow in the States as well.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:41 am
by JAGzilla
Hm. If it gets released here and isn't excessively expensive (don't see why it would be), I'll probably pick it up. GTB is the only one I don't have, and my Irys DVD has jacked up subtitles, plus better picture and sound quality are always welcome.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:15 pm
by Tyrant_Lizard_King
You know for what they are the Mill Creek Heisei blurays aren't too shabby. Especially for how cheap they are. Though new releases from the Japanese 4K scans sound pretty tempting.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:34 am
by Gigantis
Gamera!
Gamera!
His franchise is out of its prime!
Soon he'll be forgotten to time!
Where the heck is Gameraaaa!

But seriously Kadokawa, it has been far too long! We need our rocket turtle back! :(

It feels like that 2015 trailer was for nothing...

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:57 am
by Terasawa
If there's no Gamera movie by April 25, 2021, we'll be in the longest Gamera movie drought of all time. The current longest drought was the 5474 days (nearly 15 years) between Super Monster and GOTU.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:28 am
by Pkmatrix
Terasawa wrote:If there's no Gamera movie by April 25, 2021, we'll be in the longest Gamera movie drought of all time. The current longest drought was the 5474 days (nearly 15 years) between Super Monster and GOTU.


Has it really been so long since Gamera the Brave?! It can't be...that movie practically just came out..!

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:27 am
by Vakanai
Pkmatrix wrote:
Terasawa wrote:If there's no Gamera movie by April 25, 2021, we'll be in the longest Gamera movie drought of all time. The current longest drought was the 5474 days (nearly 15 years) between Super Monster and GOTU.


Has it really been so long since Gamera the Brave?! It can't be...that movie practically just came out..!

There are teens who were born after that film came out.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:40 am
by Terasawa
Decided to re-rank the Gamera films after having watched almost all of them over the last year.

1. Gamera GOTU [Tie]
1. G3 [Tie]
3. G2
4. Gamera the Brave
5. Gamera vs. Gaos
6. Gamera vs. Barugon
7. Gamera vs. Jiger
8. Gamera vs. Guiron
9. Gamera vs. Viras
10. Gammera, the Invincible ('66)
11. Gamera vs. Zigra
12. Gamera ('65)
13. Gamera - Super Monster

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:56 am
by UltramanGoji
What makes the American version of the original Gamera rank higher than the Japanese version?

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:11 pm
by Terasawa
UltramanGoji wrote:What makes the American version of the original Gamera rank higher than the Japanese version?


The American version's new sequences are clunky and pretty unnecessary, but despite that (and despite lengthening the movie by eight minutes), I think the U.S. release is better paced. It also deletes a lot of the curious Toshio-Gamera relationship, which IMO is for the better. I don't like the mysterious way Yuasa handles their relationship in the Japanese version, which I think makes Toshio come off as a borderline psychopath.

In other words, with one version you have the peculiar Toshio content and with the other you have sometimes interminable briefings (with Albert Dekker reading his script on screen). I'll take the latter, even if it "robs" the film of its most unique attribute and replaces it with unneeded filler.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:44 pm
by Vakanai
Terasawa wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:What makes the American version of the original Gamera rank higher than the Japanese version?


The American version's new sequences are clunky and pretty unnecessary, but despite that (and despite lengthening the movie by eight minutes), I think the U.S. release is better paced. It also deletes a lot of the curious Toshio-Gamera relationship, which IMO is for the better. I don't like the mysterious way Yuasa handles their relationship in the Japanese version, which I think makes Toshio come off as a borderline psychopath.

In other words, with one version you have the peculiar Toshio content and with the other you have sometimes interminable briefings (with Albert Dekker reading his script on screen). I'll take the latter, even if it "robs" the film of its most unique attribute and replaces it with unneeded filler.

Yeah, that's always been my problem with the film, that kid comes across as legitimately criminally insane and delusional. Not even an exaggeration, that kid as depicted in the movie is not even remotely okay.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:09 am
by LSD Jellyfish
Terasawa wrote:Decided to re-rank the Gamera films after having watched almost all of them over the last year.

1. Gamera GOTU [Tie]
1. G3 [Tie]
3. G2
4. Gamera the Brave
5. Gamera vs. Gaos
6. Gamera vs. Barugon
7. Gamera vs. Jiger
8. Gamera vs. Guiron
9. Gamera vs. Viras
10. Gammera, the Invincible ('66)
11. Gamera vs. Zigra
12. Gamera ('65)
13. Gamera - Super Monster

I’m curious if there’s a substantial gap between the G2 and the brave and then subsequently Gaos.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:44 am
by Terasawa
LSD Jellyfish wrote:I’m curious if there’s a substantial gap between the G2 and the brave and then subsequently Gaos.


The Brave was the one Gamera I didn't get around to watching last year or so far this year. It's also the only entry that I haven't yet rated at IMDb: I'm waiting to watch it again before I do but I'll tentatively assign it a 6/10. The three '90s films all get a 7 from me and Gamera vs. Gaos gets a 5, so yeah, there's a gap.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:00 pm
by Millenial88
Terasawa wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:What makes the American version of the original Gamera rank higher than the Japanese version?


The American version's new sequences are clunky and pretty unnecessary, but despite that (and despite lengthening the movie by eight minutes), I think the U.S. release is better paced. It also deletes a lot of the curious Toshio-Gamera relationship, which IMO is for the better. I don't like the mysterious way Yuasa handles their relationship in the Japanese version, which I think makes Toshio come off as a borderline psychopath.

In other words, with one version you have the peculiar Toshio content and with the other you have sometimes interminable briefings (with Albert Dekker reading his script on screen). I'll take the latter, even if it "robs" the film of its most unique attribute and replaces it with unneeded filler.


But hey, at least you have pre-Skeletor Alan Oppenheimer hamming it up for the camera in the latter version.

Also, the Arctic Air Force base scenes have MUCH better acting then the Japanese original.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:48 pm
by Terasawa
Millenial88 wrote:Also, the Arctic Air Force base scenes have MUCH better acting then the Japanese original.


Oh absolutely, and I think the aforementioned Oppenheimer sequence is more entertaining than the dull news conference in the Japanese version. The problem is that most of the new scenes are dreadfully slow and divert too long from the Japanese footage.

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:43 am
by MandaSaurus
I already have the Mill Creek set. Easy pass...

Re: General Gamera Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:31 pm
by MaxRebo320
Terasawa wrote:
Millenial88 wrote:Also, the Arctic Air Force base scenes have MUCH better acting then the Japanese original.


Oh absolutely, and I think the aforementioned Oppenheimer sequence is more entertaining than the dull news conference in the Japanese version. The problem is that most of the new scenes are dreadfully slow and divert too long from the Japanese footage.

READ YOU IGNORANT APE!

I also find that senator that acts like he's drunk off his ass during the tedious conference scenes real funny. He almost makes them worthwhile. Also, the reporter's weird stalkerish attempts at hitting on the scientist's assistant are truncated in Gammera, which is a plus. In general, the really weird behavior of characters seems to be removed from this cut.

MandaSaurus wrote:I already have the Mill Creek set. Easy pass...

Well, sucks to be you.