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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Stump Feet » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:28 am

The MCU kills off people all the time, for skreeonks sake my dude, do you actually watch these movies or just actively hate on them for lulz?

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And all we need are kaiju deaths really and last I checked, GOTG 2 had no problem showing the death of a big toothy monster
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Maritonic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:32 am

This has been fun as hell to read.

Re MCU killing folks: we not remember Yondu sending his arrow through like 15 people in GOTG? The Extremis people blowing up in Iron Man 3? Killmonger being stabbed? I dunno, man. Sure they're not dismembering people with chainsaws, but they don't seem to have some serious issue with showing people die.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Stump Feet » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:39 am

It’s a Gamera movie, we don’t even need that many human deaths to begin with besides maybe a human villain and the MCU has never shied away from showing bad guy deaths before so :shrug:

Besides that, they’ve shown monster deaths in plenty of their movies so Gamera dispatching an enemy is not a problem.

I guess folks are too jaded by the Heisei Gamera flicks to remember Gamera was a child friendly franchise to begin with lol
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Postby Maritonic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:43 am

Stump Feet wrote:It’s a Gamera movie, we don’t even need that many human deaths to begin with besides maybe a human villain and the MCU has never shied away from showing bad guy deaths before so :shrug:

Besides that, they’ve shown monster deaths in plenty of their movies so Gamera dispatching an enemy is not a problem.

I guess folks are too jaded by the Heisei Gamera flicks to remember Gamera was a child friendly franchise to begin with lol


Gamera: The Brave was targeted at children and Zedus ate people. So. It's doable for sure.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Stump Feet » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:46 am

Oh, I know it’s doable, I was just saying it’s not even strictly required for a Gamera movie, look at Gamera vs. Gyaos when he splits the car in half with his beam leaving the humans totally intact.

Disney could do a lot with Gamera no matter what direction they take him in.
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Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:46 am

I'd rather Disney not get it's hands on another franchise just to hire some indie director who they can easily control to work on it.
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Postby NSZ » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:47 am

Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:I'd rather Disney not get it's hands on another franchise just to hire some indie director who they can easily control to work on it.


This. This as goddamn well. Disney doesn't need another goddamn IP.
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Postby Living Corpse » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:53 am

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Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:I'd rather Disney not get it's hands on another franchise just to hire some indie director who they can easily control to work on it.


This. This as goddamn well. Disney doesn't need another goddamn IP.


IIRC only Japanese companies can buy out other Japanese companies or their IPs. Though I'm sure if they really wanted it (doubt it) Diseny would find some legal loophole.
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Postby _JNavs_ » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:16 pm

I think some of you misinterpreted what I said, I wasn't implying the MCU didn't have enough death, yes I've seen and enjoyed most of the films by the way, just Disney as an entity tends to not show much violence in its overall content.

Star Wars being a good example, after the purchase there's been a severe lack of amputations, decapitations, deaths on screen other than death by explosions, scars looking like paper cuts and while I absolutely loved the Vader sequence in Rogue One, every death was shot just out of frame. All 6 films weren't scared to show people getting arms chopped off, people getting impaled, brutal stuff.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby UltramanGoji » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:18 pm

Reminder that the main villain of Disney’s Tarzan is shown being hung from vines at the end of the movie.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby _JNavs_ » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:20 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:Reminder that the main villain of Disney’s Tarzan is shown being hung from vines at the end of the movie.

Did not know this, that's pretty dark.
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Postby goji89 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:21 pm

They killed bambis mom for skreeonks sake.
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Postby Maritonic » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:22 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:
UltramanGoji wrote:Reminder that the main villain of Disney’s Tarzan is shown being hung from vines at the end of the movie.

Did not know this, that's pretty dark.


They've done darker things with their animated films than you're giving them credit for, honestly.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby _JNavs_ » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:21 pm

Wonder how Universal would do a Gamera flick.


Really the only company I trust would be Legendary or WB in general.
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Postby Vakanai » Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:30 pm

Kind of laughing at the idea Disney doesn't show death. One of my favorite death scenes in animation comes from The Little Mermaid where they stabbed the witch with a ship!

Also, despite KotM kinda flopping, the rest of the MV, Rampage, Meg, Jurassic World, and the first PacRim all kind of show there's a market here. Not MCU size, but large enough I could see some studio wanting to do Gamera. And I don't think Gamera being obscure is as big an impediment as many claim - the Rampage games and Meg books were just as obscure, if not even more so.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Godzilla21 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:00 am

I think with the disappointing box office of KOTM and especially if GvK also disappoints you won't see much in the way of Gamera or giant monsters here for a while
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby JAGzilla » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:19 am

It's Gamera's specific brand of violence that would be unlikely for Disney to show. We're not likely to see much in the way of gushing blood, Gamera basically crucified for several hours, limbs bitten off, decapitations, Space Gyaos sliced up like salami, and so on.

Disney did let Thor behead Thanos, though, so I guess it's possible.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Vakanai » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:33 pm

Godzilla21 wrote:I think with the disappointing box office of KOTM and especially if GvK also disappoints you won't see much in the way of Gamera or giant monsters here for a while

Eh, I don't think the failure of one movie is enough to kill the giant monster genre when you still have other recent successes in the genre, and there's no reason at all to believe GvK will disappoint (there's no Endgame next year so automatically GvK will do better). But saying for arguments sake that our worst fears are realized and GvK bombs, at worst you could see an end of Monsterverse styled "big" giant monster movies, but still see some more of the cheaper (relatively) kaiju films like Rampage and PacRim going forward. And I could easily see a great Gamera film coming out of a Rampage budget.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby Terasawa » Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:42 pm

If the big films flop though what incentive does a studio have to license another property at all? Rampage, The Meg, and even Power Rangers at least were made and released before KOTM disappointed.

The only way I think we'll see an American Gamera is if GvK is a big success. And even if it underperforms I think we could see one if the property was licensed before that event, but I think the other studios are waiting out what happens with that film before looking to other potential monster films.
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Re: General Gamera Thread

Postby darthzilla99 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:51 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:I think some of you misinterpreted what I said, I wasn't implying the MCU didn't have enough death, yes I've seen and enjoyed most of the films by the way, just Disney as an entity tends to not show much violence in its overall content.

Star Wars being a good example, after the purchase there's been a severe lack of amputations, decapitations, deaths on screen other than death by explosions, scars looking like paper cuts and while I absolutely loved the Vader sequence in Rogue One, every death was shot just out of frame. All 6 films weren't scared to show people getting arms chopped off, people getting impaled, brutal stuff.



Snooke was shown sliced at the waist and arms. Han Solo was shown stabbed by his son, and they showed storm troopers smear blood on helmets.
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