The Dragon thread.

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How to Train Your Dragon films and Reign of Fire are among the best dragon films IMO.

Also has anyone heard of The Great Zoo of China by Matthew Reilly? I'm currently reading. Think Jurassic Park only with dragons.
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mikelcho wrote:What's the consensus on Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real? I always liked that one, too.

In fact, I had it on VHS once, but I lost it. Is it on DVD or Blu-ray?
I still have the DVD, I love that movie or whatever you want to call it! It was pretty spectacular I thought.
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Its basically Walking With Dinosaurs but with dragons. Its even got a lot of the same team behind it.
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Vakanai wrote:
mikelcho wrote:What's the consensus on Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real? I always liked that one, too.

In fact, I had it on VHS once, but I lost it. Is it on DVD or Blu-ray?
I still have the DVD, I love that movie or whatever you want to call it! It was pretty spectacular I thought.
Thanks! Now that I know it's on DVD, I can get it!

In fact, I think it's a faux-documentary.

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Where do we fall on this surprisingly touchy subject...

Special: Of Dragons and Wyverns – Part 1
Here be Dragons.

When a dragon in a fantasy work — be it a novel, a film, or a videogame — is depicted as having just two wings (often also locomotory limbs) and two legs, the argument is often made that “it is not a dragon; it has two wings and two legs, therefore it is a wyvern, and should not be called a dragon“. This belief of an absolute dragon-wyvern dichotomy is held by surprisingly many as a sort of dogmatic truth — one that is radically false, in the face of actual data, history, literature and classical art saying otherwise. Of course, in no way a completely arbitrary classification reflects the plasticity of the word dragon, as well as the concept(s) of dragon.

Allow me thus to take you readers into a flying journey through the fantastic and languages, and explain why dragons can have as many limbs and wings as they please and still be called dragons.
https://monsterlegacy.net/2020/04/01/sp ... ns-part-1/

And Part 2 -
https://monsterlegacy.net/2020/04/01/sp ... ns-part-2/
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I don't know if the "birds" from Evolution (2001) count as dragons but since they look like dragons, I'll put 'em here.

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tbeasley wrote:Where do we fall on this surprisingly touchy subject...

Special: Of Dragons and Wyverns – Part 1
Here be Dragons.

When a dragon in a fantasy work — be it a novel, a film, or a videogame — is depicted as having just two wings (often also locomotory limbs) and two legs, the argument is often made that “it is not a dragon; it has two wings and two legs, therefore it is a wyvern, and should not be called a dragon“. This belief of an absolute dragon-wyvern dichotomy is held by surprisingly many as a sort of dogmatic truth — one that is radically false, in the face of actual data, history, literature and classical art saying otherwise. Of course, in no way a completely arbitrary classification reflects the plasticity of the word dragon, as well as the concept(s) of dragon.

Allow me thus to take you readers into a flying journey through the fantastic and languages, and explain why dragons can have as many limbs and wings as they please and still be called dragons.
https://monsterlegacy.net/2020/04/01/sp ... ns-part-1/

And Part 2 -
https://monsterlegacy.net/2020/04/01/sp ... ns-part-2/
This is something I have never given a poop about and never will. A dragon is a dragon and anyone who freaks out about "IF IT HAS TWO LEGS IT'S A WYVERN" is immediately disregarded
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G2000 wrote:
tbeasley wrote:Where do we fall on this surprisingly touchy subject...

Special: Of Dragons and Wyverns – Part 1
Here be Dragons.

When a dragon in a fantasy work — be it a novel, a film, or a videogame — is depicted as having just two wings (often also locomotory limbs) and two legs, the argument is often made that “it is not a dragon; it has two wings and two legs, therefore it is a wyvern, and should not be called a dragon“. This belief of an absolute dragon-wyvern dichotomy is held by surprisingly many as a sort of dogmatic truth — one that is radically false, in the face of actual data, history, literature and classical art saying otherwise. Of course, in no way a completely arbitrary classification reflects the plasticity of the word dragon, as well as the concept(s) of dragon.

Allow me thus to take you readers into a flying journey through the fantastic and languages, and explain why dragons can have as many limbs and wings as they please and still be called dragons.
https://monsterlegacy.net/2020/04/01/sp ... ns-part-1/

And Part 2 -
https://monsterlegacy.net/2020/04/01/sp ... ns-part-2/
This is something I have never given a poop about and never will. A dragon is a dragon and anyone who freaks out about "IF IT HAS TWO LEGS IT'S A WYVERN" is immediately disregarded
Exactly! Besides, most old depictions of western folktale dragons have it in the "wyvern" body type (albeit bipedal).

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tbeasley wrote:Where do we fall on this surprisingly touchy subject...

Special: Of Dragons and Wyverns – Part 1
Here be Dragons.

When a dragon in a fantasy work — be it a novel, a film, or a videogame — is depicted as having just two wings (often also locomotory limbs) and two legs, the argument is often made that “it is not a dragon; it has two wings and two legs, therefore it is a wyvern, and should not be called a dragon“. This belief of an absolute dragon-wyvern dichotomy is held by surprisingly many as a sort of dogmatic truth — one that is radically false, in the face of actual data, history, literature and classical art saying otherwise. Of course, in no way a completely arbitrary classification reflects the plasticity of the word dragon, as well as the concept(s) of dragon.

Allow me thus to take you readers into a flying journey through the fantastic and languages, and explain why dragons can have as many limbs and wings as they please and still be called dragons.
https://monsterlegacy.net/2020/04/01/sp ... ns-part-1/

And Part 2 -
https://monsterlegacy.net/2020/04/01/sp ... ns-part-2/
Very easy.

If it's called In-Universe a Dragon, it's a dragon.

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People talk about the Skeletons all the time but to me it's all about THIS guy -
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Speaking of Stopmotion dragons..

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I need to get back to watching this film one of these days.
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The Maledict (Dr. Malcolm Betruger) from Doom 3 is a pretty neat design -
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tbeasley wrote:The Maledict (Dr. Malcolm Betruger) from Doom 3 is a pretty neat design -
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Really sucks that you only get to fight him in the Resurrection of Evil expansion pack; he's a much more satisfying final boss than the weakass Cyberdemon fight in the original Doom 3
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From the pre-Fantastic Four days of Marvel Comics the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby creation whose name means "He whose limbs shatter mountains, and back scrapes the sun." ,FIN FANG FOOM.
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Another Doom dragon, this time from Doom Eternal: The Ancient Gods Part 2 -

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Why does Fin Fang Foom wear shorts. It's like his entire character is a parody of himself.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:18 pm Why does Fin Fang Foom wear shorts. It's like his entire character is a parody of himself.
Marvel can't risk showing Fin Fang Foom's Big Bang Boom-stick since he'll need to be covered up down there in the MCU adaptation.
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Gigantis wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:04 pm Speaking of Stopmotion dragons..

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I need to get back to watching this film one of these days.
That dragon always shows up on Q.
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So are any of the DTV CGI dragon films any good? I'm thinking of things like Dragon Hunter (2009); Age of Dragons (2011); Dragon Storm (2004); and Dragon Fighter (2004).

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_JNavs_ wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:18 pm Why does Fin Fang Foom wear shorts. It's like his entire character is a parody of himself.
Fin Fang Foom does as he pleases
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