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Man, all of the Shin Resurgence month matches have been awesome so far! I'm planning to post a full review of all of them once the month is over.

Also, I know I'm very late to the party but I kinda want to post a hot take on Shin's retirement. I fully get why we're swapping him out for Ultima... but I feel like it happened a bit too soon and it was too sudden. By the end of this month, poor Shin will only have (what I assume are) eight matches over almost 3 years, which isn't much in the grand scheme of the KWC. I dunno, I feel like he could've done with just a little more time or maybe some grace period where more Shin matches could've been submitted before the retirement was finalized. Of course, maybe I'm forgetting something or maybe I just don't see the bigger picture, but that's my interpretation anyways.
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There is no reason we can't have both Ultima and Shin and the KWC staff are uncreative cowards removing Shin.

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godjacob wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:08 pm There is no reason we can't have both Ultima and Shin
If we could write with Shin the same way we could in the K.W.C.E, maybe you'd have a point. Unfortunately we can't.

There's legit no reason to keep the dude who is pretty much a more shackled version of the new guy (which I'd like to reiterate is the REAL reason Shin is retiring) and no, his matches being amazing isn't enough to save him. Retirees have plenty of amazing matches, but it doesn't change the fact that they weren't worth keeping around because whatever replacements came their way was basically them but upgraded accordingly.

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GodzillaFan8889 wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:52 pm By the end of this month, poor Shin will only have (what I assume are) eight matches over almost 3 years, which isn't much in the grand scheme of the KWC. I dunno, I feel like he could've done with just a little more time or maybe some grace period where more Shin matches could've been submitted before the retirement was finalized. Of course, maybe I'm forgetting something or maybe I just don't see the bigger picture, but that's my interpretation anyways.
AFAIK I think when a retiree gets announced to.. well, be retired, it's immediate. You can't write anymore matches with them and they're sent right to the K.W.C.E if you still have one in the making. When it comes to monster months they're done in a way that the admins think are the strongest written and deserve the most spotlight (of course that's not saying they thought the other matches were BAD) so there's probably a ton of K.W.C.E matches with Shin that could've been in the K.W.C had he'd stuck around a tad longer.
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Gigantis wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:33 pm
godjacob wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:08 pm There is no reason we can't have both Ultima and Shin
If we could write with Shin the same way we could in the K.W.C.E, maybe you'd have a point. Unfortunately we can't.

There's legit no reason to keep the dude who is pretty much a more shackled version of the new guy (which I'd like to reiterate is the REAL reason Shin is retiring) and no, his matches being amazing isn't enough to save him. Retirees have plenty of amazing matches, but it doesn't change the fact that they weren't worth keeping around because whatever replacements came their way was basically them but upgraded accordingly.

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GodzillaFan8889 wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:52 pm By the end of this month, poor Shin will only have (what I assume are) eight matches over almost 3 years, which isn't much in the grand scheme of the KWC. I dunno, I feel like he could've done with just a little more time or maybe some grace period where more Shin matches could've been submitted before the retirement was finalized. Of course, maybe I'm forgetting something or maybe I just don't see the bigger picture, but that's my interpretation anyways.
AFAIK I think when a retiree gets announced to.. well, be retired, it's immediate. You can't write anymore matches with them and they're sent right to the K.W.C.E if you still have one in the making. When it comes to monster months they're done in a way that the admins think are the strongest written and deserve the most spotlight (of course that's not saying they thought the other matches were BAD) so there's probably a ton of K.W.C.E matches with Shin that could've been in the K.W.C had he'd stuck around a tad longer.
I think there is more a degree of difference writing Shin vs. Ultima than you are writing off. Either way this is one of the most soulless retirings ever, just replacing Shin with a new hot toy cause of self-imposed restrictions nobody asked you guys to make. This month has only shown what a colossally dumb idea this has been and I will be eternally annoyed by it.
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godjacob wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:02 pm Either way this is one of the most soulless retirings ever, just replacing Shin with a new hot toy cause of self-imposed restrictions nobody asked you guys to make. This month has only shown what a colossally dumb idea this has been and I will be eternally annoyed by it.
Whose "you guys"? I'm not a staff member lol. The only one who put that rule in was Greyshot and I don't think even the people who decided to retire Shin was happy about it. It wasn't just because Ultima is a "shiny new toy".
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Gigantis wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:19 pm
godjacob wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:02 pm Either way this is one of the most soulless retirings ever, just replacing Shin with a new hot toy cause of self-imposed restrictions nobody asked you guys to make. This month has only shown what a colossally dumb idea this has been and I will be eternally annoyed by it.
Whose "you guys"? I'm not a staff member lol. The only one who put that rule in was Greyshot and I don't think even the people who decided to retire Shin was happy about it. It wasn't just because Ultima is a "shiny new toy".
Certainly does feel like the only reason. Given even with that rule that nobody seems to like, Shin is proving he can be part of quality matches. it all feels like a complete waste.
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Let the month play out and let this be a chance for Shin to shine. While we're all aware of the outcome, let's not waste it with pointless bitching or moaning. Let the final match--which y'all guessed right with it being the 29th--speak for itself. It's the most I'm asking out of y'all. Afterward, speak to your heart's content.
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KaijuX wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:48 pm Swooping in!
Let the final match--which y'all guessed right with it being the 29th--speak for itself.
This is totally just me stroking my ego, but I'm happy that I predicted the final matches date just be seeing that 377's release was on the 19th. :P

But yeah I agree. Sorry if I seemed a bit heated back there; I just don't want people to get the wrong idea.
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KaijuX wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:48 pm Swooping in!

Let the month play out and let this be a chance for Shin to shine. While we're all aware of the outcome, let's not waste it with pointless bitching or moaning. Let the final match--which y'all guessed right with it being the 29th--speak for itself. It's the most I'm asking out of y'all. Afterward, speak to your heart's content.
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KaijuX wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:48 pm Swooping in!

Let the month play out and let this be a chance for Shin to shine. While we're all aware of the outcome, let's not waste it with pointless bitching or moaning. Let the final match--which y'all guessed right with it being the 29th--speak for itself. It's the most I'm asking out of y'all. Afterward, speak to your heart's content.
Honestly, I agree. Let's just all hope Shin exits the KWC with an absolute banger. :shingodzillapurple:

And hey, the KWCE, even if it's not fully like the KWC, does deserve more attention I say! Perhaps Shin's retirement could give it exactly that?
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GodzillaFan8889 wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:04 am
KaijuX wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:48 pm Swooping in!

Let the month play out and let this be a chance for Shin to shine. While we're all aware of the outcome, let's not waste it with pointless bitching or moaning. Let the final match--which y'all guessed right with it being the 29th--speak for itself. It's the most I'm asking out of y'all. Afterward, speak to your heart's content.
Honestly, I agree. Let's just all hope Shin exits the KWC with an absolute banger. :shingodzillapurple:

And hey, the KWCE, even if it's not fully like the KWC, does deserve more attention I say! Perhaps Shin's retirement could give it exactly that?
Might help if the KWCE got front page updates rather than be buried on the site. Probably a source of the issue of exposure.
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Man, I'd LOVE if we could get the K.W.C.E on the main page, but Toho Kingdom would be sent 10 feet under via copyright strikes considering the fact barely any of its monsters are actually owned by Toho. We have Disney characters, Warner Bros characters, Universal, Paramount, a bunch of other companies from across the globe? I don't think they'd be cool with that and it'd be a NIGHTMARE to try and sort out.
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I know some people will miss Shin and aren't happy with him not being around especially with the rules he was restricted with. Personally though, I'm GLAD the guy is gone. Keeping him in character with the film leaves a mostly immobile creature who's a pain in the butt to write in an interesting way. Ultima has a theme just as interesting if not more and him being more mobile gives more freedom to write. Things are good with the way they've changed.

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Once more, I will reserve my feelings on Shin being gone once the date passes. Out of fairness to avoid adding salt to this.
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It's official. Shin's last match (for the month), and as of today, he has been retired. RIP in pepperonis, he'll only be kinda missed. Now onto the match itself...
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Before anyone asks, no your complaining did nothing to change our minds. KaijuX has been researching everything to get the TRUE Shin Godzilla unrestricted with more abilities for months now, and it was only a couple of months ago that we were able to get it approved, which led to this month of matches.
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Nagoda wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:05 am
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and it was only a couple of months ago that we were able to get it approved, which led to this month of matches.
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More accurately, this month was always going to happen, that decision just changed the course and content of the month.
As for the match itself… Solid stuff, fun time with all the action. I feel like it may be a bit too long, but that could just be me.
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Good beginner to show off Shin’s new capabilities, with nothing too ridiculous but still quite intense. Wait on KaijuX to drop a post explaining all the stuff we can do with Shinny boi, cause there are still limits, but the limits are expansive enough to satisfy pretty much anything someone would want.
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You guys seriously trolled us throughout this entire month. :lol:

This match is pretty good! Lots of different monsters from different eras going at it. Nice to see M Mothra score another W. Guess Shin is gonna stick around after all!

Curious to see what he'll be able to do now. Even his profile pic took a pretty major change. Perhaps a metaphorical sign that Greyshot's Shin is gone and someone else took his place.. or am I looking too much into it?
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