G-MAN wrote:Any chance of a sort of grindhouse release of the reels without any clean up, and say just a release with color correction? Just for preservation sake? Also how bad are the vertical lines? As I know sometimes it's just something that even big studios don't bother with on films. And depending on how frequent it's not really an issue for me personally.
I suggested such a release, but Servanov has reservations about the idea, which kind of make sense to me. The whole idea of a "grindhouse" version of a film is named for the Quentin Tarantino/Robert Rodriguez film Grindhouse, which applied absurd amounts of fake damage to the two films that made it up. It was meant to evoke an idea of a time and place, not to really be an accurate recreation of anything -- hell, the splices are seen and heard at the same time, which anyone at all familiar with film can tell you isn't how that works.
The "grindhouse version" itself is also an ahistorical concept -- often they're billed as recreating the experience of watching a print in a theater, but that's not really true. If you take a print, scan it, and then release the result as-is, what you have is a reflection of how it looks and sounds now
, with the accumulated wear and tear of the print's entire theatrical lifetime, and often decades' worth of fading on top of that. Some people who caught it at the very, very end of its theatrical career would've probably seen about that much physical damage, but they wouldn't have seen it that faded.
A "grindhouse" version can give you an idea of what a film print looks like after it's used extensively in theaters, sits around aging for twenty, thirty, forty years or longer, and is then dug out all those years later and projected. What it will never give you is any idea what the film looked like when anyone saw it in 1985. Their only real educational value is as something to compare to a restored version, and you don't need the whole movie for that.
As for what we're going to do about the scratches, I guess that all depends. PFClean, the software we're looking at, costs something like $2300 for a 90-day rental. We have a few hundred dollars left in funds for this project between donations, money I've put into it, and Patreon donations I haven't cashed out yet, and I'll be putting part of my tax return toward this as well when I get it, but that'll still leave a lot of money to be raised. If we can't manage it, I guess we'll have to do without that aspect of the cleanup.
airforce111 wrote:4K 16BIT RAW DPX files
Holy skreeonk would that take up some space, someone would have to seed that motherskreeonker for a while lol
I'm not entirely sure of the specifics, but I believe we're actually getting them as some type of ProRes files to save space without sacrificing much in terms of quality. They're still huge files, though -- we've been handling it by mailing our guy hard drives, which he puts the scans on and then mails to us. The final release will be 1080p, probably as a Blu-ray ISO if possible -- not nearly as large.
ultrase7en wrote:If you need additional funds don’t hesitate to check with the forum. I would be glad to donate as this is an important preservation in my eyes.
We probably will ask once we've gotten as far as we can without that software, but it is a lot of money. This project has taken a long time already, and we don't necessarily want it to sit around uncompleted too long while we try to scrape the cash together.