The Official Star Wars Saga Thread

[_JNavs_]

While I agree my enjoyment of a franchise has nothing to do with execs.

I also don't think we should let execs off the hook for being pompously rude individuals.

[eabaker]

That video doesn't... really explain what the situation is at all.

[miguelnuva]

That video doesn't... really explain what the situation is at all.

SWTHEORY had a strong reaction to the Mandalorian finale where he cried. Pablo Hildago said something behind his private Twitter and then started liking posts from people that attack SWTHEORY for said reaction.

When people called out Pablo on why he was liking posts about a fan being made fun off he deleted his tweets but made one sarcastic post his header.

SWTHEORY has been blacklisted by Lucasfilm do to his following and the Vader fanfilm as he is vocal about not liking episode 8 and 9.

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My enjoyment of the Star Wars franchise will not be affected by some DRAAAAMAAA!!, so yeah who cares.

And no, Dougherty would not really get a response from me if he said that because I already don't care for him as is.

No one can ruin my enjoyment of a franchise I like either but if officials are attacking fans and acting like kids I care.

[Spuro]

So I don't know how many people here know SWtheory on YouTube but he made the Vader fan film a while ago. He's involved in drama with a certain Lucasfilm employee and I don't see what he did to deserve this.

https://youtu.be/YT5vnOSAE1c

Who cares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Q7CcINC8M

Anyway, this isn't the first time I've seen employees from Hollywood acting like dicks. Prolly won't be the last. Oh well...

[miguelnuva]

My thing is Pablo has basically since TLJ been telling fans that they care too much about old Star Wars. His Twitter is private so I can't get the tweets but this is the 4th time he's taken a pop shot at fans of

Spoiler:

Luke

.

He should be trying to bring the fandom together in his position of power.

[Spuro]

My thing is Pablo has basically since TLJ been telling fans that they care too much about old Star Wars. His Twitter is private so I can't get the tweets but this is the 4th time he's taken a pop shot at fans of

Spoiler:

big anime tiddies

.

He should be trying to bring the fandom together in his position of power.

You were the employed one!

You were supposed to destroy the trolls, not join them!

Bring balance to the fandom, not leave it in darkness!

[GodzillavsZilla]

So I don't know how many people here know SWtheory on YouTube but he made the Vader fan film a while ago. He's involved in drama with a certain Lucasfilm employee and I don't see what he did to deserve this.

https://youtu.be/YT5vnOSAE1c

Who cares

A lot should care when a company official is making fun of a fan for being excited about the product they create and we generate money for.

If Dougherty came out and said fans they didn't like Kotm just don't get Godzilla or made fun of fans who loved Kotm that wouldn't elict a feeling from you?

I guess I'm not "a lot of people" because I really cannot care less.

Then again, I'm also not a fan of SWT so there's that...

[_JNavs_]

I've always been a fan of SWT, especially since he's put together those big budget quality Vader fan film episodes.

He also seems incredibly genuine and sincere unlike those other SW channels that either vomit hate or spew Lucasfilm and Wookiepedia rhetoric for 10 minutes.

Specifically Star Wars Explained, they seem obnoxiously willing to eat up whatever Lucasfilm decides to put on the production lineup.

It's why they're never involved in drama, because they keep their track record with reviewing the content squeaky clean.

[GodzillavsZilla]

It's why they're never involved in drama, because they keep their track record with reviewing the content squeaky clean.

Or, maybe they just don't care?
Star Wars drama is fucking stupid, it's 100000% not worth getting worked up about.

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

Star Wars fans when Daisy Ridley, Ahmed Best, Kelly Marie Tran, Kathleen Kennedy, etc get obstinately harrassed on social media (in some cases, to the point of contemplating suicide): "Meh."

Star Wars fans when some executive posts a 5-word tweet: "WTF this has gone too far! How can they do such a thing?! Won't someone think of the children???"

[miguelnuva]

Star Wars fans when Daisy Ridley, Ahmed Best, Kelly Marie Tran, Kathleen Kennedy, etc get obstinately harrassed on social media (in some cases, to the point of contemplating suicide): "Meh."

Star Wars fans when some executive posts a 5-word tweet: "WTF this has gone too far! How can they do such a thing?! Won't someone think of the children???"

Apples and Oranges.

[Spuro]

Star Wars fans when Daisy Ridley, Ahmed Best, Kelly Marie Tran, Kathleen Kennedy, etc get obstinately harrassed on social media (in some cases, to the point of contemplating suicide): "Meh."

Star Wars fans when some executive posts a 5-word tweet: "WTF this has gone too far! How can they do such a thing?! Won't someone think of the children???"

Do fans like me, who hate both events, just not exist or something?

The existence of the former shouldn't invalidate the latter.

[_JNavs_]

I've yet to see Daisy Ridley harassment, since she disappeared off social media right after TFA. Unless criticizing her performance and character is considered harassment.

Ahmed Best is beloved within the community, unless you're talking about the 1999 fanbase from 30 years ago. Which in this case is irrelevant.

KMT was, again, criticized for her performance, however just like with Rey, it was her character that really did not sit well with fans.

KatKen is a whole separate beast that i won't touch on here as I have had absolutely no faith in her role as head honcho of Lucasfilm.

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And as everyone has already said a dozen times.

An executive represents the company that they work for. A fan page that makes better productions than most over at LF does not warrant passively aggressive comments from the LF team

[SoggyNoodles2016]

Ahmed Best is beloved within the community, unless you're talking about the 1999 fanbase from 30 years ago. Which in this case is irrelevant.

He's beloved now.

Also, nice to know the fanbase who criticized his character far past 1999 to the point he considered suicide is irrelevant now. Sure he'd LOVE that.

KMT was, again, criticized for her performance, however just like with Rey, it was her character that really did not sit well with fans.

S
Just her character.


Sure, Jan.

KatKen is a whole separate beast that i won't touch on here as I have had absolutely no faith in her role as head honcho of Lucasfilm.

See the reason people bring her up is she's one of millions of the people behind these films and yet she's the one ALWAYS getting shit for firing Lord and Miller (at the behest of the film's writers), making TLJ (a film written by Rian Johnson), and every other thing.

I wonder why she would become a boogeyman for every Star Wars problems

Oh, right. Must be her "character" again.

And as everyone has already said a dozen times.

An executive represents the company that they work for. A fan page that makes better productions than most over at LF does not warrant passively aggressive comments from the LF team

DING DING DING, WE GOT A WINNER FOLKS!

This has never been about some dude being "offended" over some douche being rude, this is every salty bitch who didn't like the Disney content coming up with an excuse to rip on them again.

Fuck off with this bullshit "Oh, we in the Star Wars fandom have n e v e r bullied anyone, but mean old Pablo is starting a fight." This fandom's toxicity is the main reason I've been avoiding Star Wars and this is the worst example of it since 2017, and I agree Pablo is in the wrong.

This fandom's a godamn punchline now and im glad. Maybe we can go back to having good content again like when everyone thought Mandalorian would fail.

[_JNavs_]

Ahmed Best is beloved within the community, unless you're talking about the 1999 fanbase from 30 years ago. Which in this case is irrelevant.

He's beloved now.

Also, nice to know the fanbase who criticized his character far past 1999 to the point he considered suicide is irrelevant now. Sure he'd LOVE that.

KMT was, again, criticized for her performance, however just like with Rey, it was her character that really did not sit well with fans.

S
Just her character.


Sure, Jan.

KatKen is a whole separate beast that i won't touch on here as I have had absolutely no faith in her role as head honcho of Lucasfilm.

See the reason people bring her up is she's one of millions of the people behind these films and yet she's the one ALWAYS getting poop for firing Lord and Miller (at the behest of the film's writers), making TLJ (a film written by Rian Johnson), and every other thing.

I wonder why she would become a boogeyman for every Star Wars problems

Oh, right. Must be her "character" again.

And as everyone has already said a dozen times.

An executive represents the company that they work for. A fan page that makes better productions than most over at LF does not warrant passively aggressive comments from the LF team

DING DING DING, WE GOT A WINNER FOLKS!

This has never been about some dude being "offended" over some douche being rude, this is every salty female dog who didn't like the Disney content coming up with an excuse to rip on them again.

skreeonk off with this bullshit "Oh, we in the Star Wars fandom have n e v e r bullied anyone, but mean old Pablo is starting a fight." This fandom's toxicity is the main reason I've been avoiding Star Wars and this is the worst example of it since 2017, and I agree Pablo is in the wrong.

This fandom's a godamn punchline now and im glad. Maybe we can go back to having good content again like when everyone thought Mandalorian would fail.

Okay uh,

1. Ahmed Best being beloved, or atleast appreciated since around 2005-now has been a thing. So uh yeah?

2. Since when did random troll comments on an Instagram comment section represent an entire fanbase filled with millions? This happens to literally any and all celebrity REGARDLESS of their position and/or field?

3. The reason people bring up Katken is because she is the puppetmaster for the franchise, she took over George Lucas' role, and has done a piss poor job at it thus far?

- Sequels whisper for themselves

-TCW season 7 was always a thing, all they did was actually finish the production of it.

-Solo took the plot of that old Puss in Boots
movie and still fumbled it, regardless of the 3+ directors she hired and fired or outright replaced.

- Rogue One was good but had paper-thin characters, again another characteristic of the recent productions.

- The Mandalorian is the absolute best thing to come out of the franchise post-acquisition since 2015.


But regardless of ALL OF THAT, NULUCASFILM has been bullying the fanbase, or selective parts of it SINCE CONCEPTION. Be it pedestal standing comic book writers, film writers, directors, MOST of the round table storyboard people. They've all taken their little potshots from their places of power.

And guess what? They can't have that kinda audacity with the kind of content they've given us thus far.

So YES that is why I mentioned SWT's superb work, because he has much more of a positive standing with fans, and he also releases content that's up to par.

So Pablo can shove it, since he's one of the largest progenitors of these incidents.

[GodzillavsZilla]

I miss when TFA first released, when there were plenty of people happy about the movie and just made some memes about it because they liked it.

[miguelnuva]

SWTHEORY also has a bigger star wars channel than the official star wars YouTube channel, I can see that sitting wrong with someone like Pablo.

Regardless of how fans feel Pablo helped right the ST so when TLJ was picked apart and things like the Vader fan film praised I can see why Pablo might take a shot at Theory but like was said he's an official.

Also I'm tired of the term toxic fandom. Postive and Toxic are in every fandom ever and the word was created because its easier to label a fandom toxic then to admit their are assholes in the world.

It was easier to label people who didn't like TLJ with idoits who were racist and sexist for example as the Fandom Meance.

[GodzillavsJason]

I miss when TFA first released, when there were plenty of people happy about the movie and just made some memes about it because they liked it.

How I long for those days. Now it's just people screaming "They ruined muh STER WERS!"

Or at least..... how it's always been, but you get what I mean.

[_JNavs_]

Which is why I enjoyed From a Certain Point of View, no singular perspective is entirely correct regardless of who says what.

When TFA dropped, from my point of view it was received, and heavily criticized, for being A New Hope from start to finish.

It still is. But I do agree the memes about it were glorious.

You can say George Lucas divided the fanbase between young and old, that he ruined muh Star Wars with his 2 trilogies (which were atleast cohesive together), but at least he didn't fracture it like glass.

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

This fandom's a godamn punchline now and im glad. Maybe we can go back to having good content again like when everyone thought Mandalorian would fail.