The Official Star Wars Saga Thread

[UltramanGoji]

I didn’t say it didn’t have an effect on it, just that it wasn’t the biggest reason.

Considering reports say that the reshoots doubled the budget of the film, it’s entirely possible that without those extensive reshoots it could’ve at least made a small profit.

[Rhedosaurus]

I think the ballooned budget from reshooting nearly the entire movie was more of a reason for its failure than its release date.

You don't feel dropping it that close to Infinity War and Deadpool 2 on top of being that close to TLJ didn't have an affect on it?

Solo had an uphill battle from day 1 and it seemed like everything was lining up for it not doing well box office wise.

Not only that. but too many people felt that it was made for the sake of making a new Star Wars movie. And the fact that few asked for one only proves it.

[miguelnuva]

Congrats eabaker, Rian Johnson's trilogy was likely not canceled, just delayed as he's work with the Game of thrones writer trilogies.

[eabaker]

Congrats eabaker, Rian Johnson's trilogy was likely not canceled, just delayed as he's work with the Game of thrones writer trilogies.

WOO-HOO!

[Spuro]

It looks like the Star Wars spinoffs have been canceled by Disney.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/exclusi ... 7ZwnbwVhSs

But those were the only good ones they made so far...

Oh well. Guess that's another reason to stop caring about Star Wars.

[Mr_Goji_and_Watch]

But those were the only good ones they made so far...

Oh well. Guess that's another reason to stop caring about Star Wars.

Forgettable factory-assembled mediocrity like Solo and the uneven ride of Gilroy's Edwards's Rogue One were totally the only good Star Wars movies to come out of Disney-owned Lucasfilm.

[Smuggers]

This "Make Solo 2 happen" thing is hilarious.

[ROMG4]

So no spin-offs meaning no potentially original and creative anthology stories that don't need to be hooked to a trilogy. Meaning the trilogies are now the only hope of getting good stories

Rian Johnson's trilogy is still a go even though the backfire over TLJ is what caused the spinoffs to be canned, he's going to be writing the GOT Trilogy along with the writers who already burned their previous project to the ground

Sigh. Whelp, I guess Star Wars' unexpected hiatus for the next few years got longer, but if it results in better products then I have no problem waiting

6 years

And I saw TLJ for the first time since 2017 and it was even dumber then I remembered

[_JNavs_]

Can Disney please stop with the sabers doing minimum damage. They're like baseball sabers now, Jedi Fallen Order is a perfect example outside of the Disney XD shows.

[GodzillavsZilla]

Can Disney please stop with the sabers doing minimum damage. They're like baseball sabers now, Jedi Fallen Order is a perfect example outside of the Disney XD shows.

The lightsabers in The Force Unleashed were worse than Fallen Order from what I've seen of JFO imo. That lightsaber at least looks like they take more than one hit to kill a Stormtrooper. TFU tho? It felt like using a butter knife and the only time you can kill a Stormtrooper in one hit was if you threw it at them.
From what I've seen of Fallen Order, it looks like they go down in one hit. The only exception being the boss fight... but that's a boss.

[_JNavs_]

I think the issue for me is, in TFU (and I believe the old Jedi Academy games) at least there was dismemberment, as a lightsaber should. From what I've heard, apparently Disney didn't feel comfortable with that concept for J:FO. It's minor but still an issue I have with the lighter tone they're applying to the franchise as a whole.


Speaking of, just got around to watching Ralph Breaks the Internet (had nothing else to do). It's a bit worrisome seeing how much Disney actually owns, license-wise lol. One thing that bugged me is they're constantly flaunting their huge "world" i guess, yet I remember a time when a majority of their biggest licenses were just Pixar, Muppets and Princesses. Weird thing to get unnerved about, but just a bit odd for me seeing all these franchises "consumed" in a way. Especially hearing that Lucasfilm specifically wasn't comfortable with a joke that was going to be in the film, about Kylo Ren basically being a Whiny Brat, because it'd "demean his role as a villain".

It wasn't an issue when George Lucas sent his license out to Family Guy, Robot Chicken etc. back when he owned the company, since he knew he created quality content, and wanted to have fun with it.

I wouldn't put it past the Corporate Execs feeling insecure about their characters.

[miguelnuva]

I think the issue for me is, in TFU (and I believe the old Jedi Academy games) at least there was dismemberment, as a lightsaber should. From what I've heard, apparently Disney didn't feel comfortable with that concept for J:FO. It's minor but still an issue I have with the lighter tone they're applying to the franchise as a whole.


Speaking of, just got around to watching Ralph Breaks the Internet (had nothing else to do). It's a bit worrisome seeing how much Disney actually owns, license-wise lol. One thing that bugged me is they're constantly flaunting their huge "world" i guess, yet I remember a time when a majority of their biggest licenses were just Pixar, Muppets and Princesses. Weird thing to get unnerved about, but just a bit odd for me seeing all these franchises "consumed" in a way. Especially hearing that Lucasfilm specifically wasn't comfortable with a joke that was going to be in the film, about Kylo Ren basically being a Whiny Brat, because it'd "demean his role as a villain".

It wasn't an issue when George Lucas sent his license out to Family Guy, Robot Chicken etc. back when he owned the company, since he knew he created quality content, and wanted to have fun with it.

I wouldn't put it past the Corporate Execs feeling insecure about their characters.

I don't why Lucasfilm would be upset with that joke considering whiny is a trait all Skywalkers have. I love Luke and Anakin but both of them where whiny as well and Kylo is just as bad.

[_JNavs_]

I think the issue for me is, in TFU (and I believe the old Jedi Academy games) at least there was dismemberment, as a lightsaber should. From what I've heard, apparently Disney didn't feel comfortable with that concept for J:FO. It's minor but still an issue I have with the lighter tone they're applying to the franchise as a whole.


Speaking of, just got around to watching Ralph Breaks the Internet (had nothing else to do). It's a bit worrisome seeing how much Disney actually owns, license-wise lol. One thing that bugged me is they're constantly flaunting their huge "world" i guess, yet I remember a time when a majority of their biggest licenses were just Pixar, Muppets and Princesses. Weird thing to get unnerved about, but just a bit odd for me seeing all these franchises "consumed" in a way. Especially hearing that Lucasfilm specifically wasn't comfortable with a joke that was going to be in the film, about Kylo Ren basically being a Whiny Brat, because it'd "demean his role as a villain".

It wasn't an issue when George Lucas sent his license out to Family Guy, Robot Chicken etc. back when he owned the company, since he knew he created quality content, and wanted to have fun with it.

I wouldn't put it past the Corporate Execs feeling insecure about their characters.

I don't why Lucasfilm would be upset with that joke considering whiny is a trait all Skywalkers have. I love Luke and Anakin but both of them where whiny as well and Kylo is just as bad.

Yeah I love Luke and Anakin, they were obviously young so of course they'd be whiny, it runs in the blood lol. That's why I gave Kylo a break on the whole Temper tantrum nonsense he likes to pull, since he's probably the best and only well developed character in the entire sequel trilogy.

It shows heavy insecurity within the new Lucasfilm, that they aren't at all comfortable with their characters being used as jokes for fun.

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I blatantly dislike the new trilogy's goal of rehashing the OT with a shiny plastic reskin of everything, from white nerf guns to Storm-troopers that don't look like they're "30 years later". Anyway enough ripping the sequels for now, I'll save that for some other time.

So they just revealed the new "Sith Troopers" and I dig em. They remind me of the old Fett/Mandalorian/Clone T visor mixed with sharp new age tech. Like more hardcore versions of Death troopers. It's what I expected the First Order Storm Troopers were going to look like, but alas. Beggars can't be choosers.

If I had any complaints it'd be once again, too shiny, where's the scuffs? the chips? the battle damage? Captain Rex could literally call the entire First Order a bunch of Shinies and he wouldn't be wrong. The other thing would be, the whole Red=Sith and blue=Jedi thing is a bit hard pressed in these new movies, it's like so in your face it's obnoxious. But red is my favorite color so I'll let it slide.








Since it's First Order gear, does that mean Kylo goes full Sith?

[miguelnuva]

Blame George Lucas for Red= Sith and Blue= Jedi. Originally Luke had a blue saber in Rotj because that's the only color Jedi could make. Orginally lightsaber colors also depended on who was using it as Luke's rotj saber had a red blade when Vader turned it on.

We only got Green because of the blue saber looked horrible during the sail barrage assult and purple is because Sam Jackson has to have something purple in all his films.

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Well the latest theory blowing up the internet is Rey is going to be revealed to be Shmi.

[Zarm]

...Reincarnated?

[miguelnuva]

...Reincarnated?

Palpatine sends her back 10 years before TPM at the end on Ix. She blocks off the force and is Shmi.

[_JNavs_]

...Reincarnated?

Palpatine sends her back 10 years before TPM at the end on Ix. She blocks off the force and is Shmi.

Is it bad that the idea doesn't sound as bad to me as the hundreds of other weak choices they've made with the new films?

[miguelnuva]

...Reincarnated?

Palpatine sends her back 10 years before TPM at the end on Ix. She blocks off the force and is Shmi.

Is it bad that the idea doesn't sound as bad to me as the hundreds of other weak choices they've made with the new films?

It ruins Shmi's character unless and this is assuming Disney does this. Disney makes Rey Shmi just to reboot the prequels and we then see films based on Shmi remembering she is Rey.

[UltramanGoji]

It ruins Shmi's character

What character, she existed purely as an outlet for Anakin's turn to the dark side and nothing more.

[_JNavs_]

Palpatine sends her back 10 years before TPM at the end on Ix. She blocks off the force and is Shmi.

Is it bad that the idea doesn't sound as bad to me as the hundreds of other weak choices they've made with the new films?

It ruins Shmi's character unless and this is assuming Disney does this. Disney makes Rey Shmi just to reboot the prequels and we then see films based on Shmi remembering she is Rey.

I mean Shmi didn't have much character beyond loving mother with a mysterious background. If anything it'd build her character.