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I swear to god, it won't be that far-fetched if modern Goku gave Frieza the Dragonballs just to see how strong he'd get by obtaining immortality.

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LegendZilla wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:22 pm I swear to god, it won't be that far-fetched if modern Goku gave Frieza the Dragonballs just to see how strong he'd get by obtaining immortality.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You know that is something this damn fool would do.

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goji89 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:25 pm
LegendZilla wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:22 pm I swear to god, it won't be that far-fetched if modern Goku gave Frieza the Dragonballs just to see how strong he'd get by obtaining immortality.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You know that is something this damn fool would do.
That is not something Goku would do. Goku allows people to do things within the limits of fairness. He got on Zamasu's ass for the immortality bs.
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miguelnuva wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:40 pm
goji89 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:25 pm
LegendZilla wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:22 pm I swear to god, it won't be that far-fetched if modern Goku gave Frieza the Dragonballs just to see how strong he'd get by obtaining immortality.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You know that is something this damn fool would do.
That is not something Goku would do. Goku allows people to do things within the limits of fairness. He got on Zamasu's ass for the immortality bs.
Dude, we know. It's called riffing on Gokus ass. Making fun of his wanting to just fight strong opponents sheesh. Let us not forget the Cell saga and the senzu bean incident lol it's a play on that dude.

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goji89 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:17 pm
miguelnuva wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:40 pm
goji89 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:25 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You know that is something this damn fool would do.
That is not something Goku would do. Goku allows people to do things within the limits of fairness. He got on Zamasu's ass for the immortality bs.
Dude, we know. It's called riffing on Gokus ass. Making fun of his wanting to just fight strong opponents sheesh. Let us not forget the Cell saga and the senzu bean incident lol it's a play on that dude.
The senzu bean saved lives when you think about it. LegendZilla is likely being serious however.
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miguelnuva wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:33 pm
Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:18 pm Friday is the SDCC panel for the 2022 Super movie. So look forward to news coming this weekend.
Broly got his first trailer at SDCC so lets hold out hope.
Since we're living in different times with Covid. I wonder if this movie is going to have a simultaneous or exclusive streaming release.
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Dragonball Super: Super Hero. Weird name but whatever. But hey Pan is actually aged up! Now let's just wait and see if Goten and Trunks have aged at all.
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Announcement was kinda underwhelming. Just a title and some new characters. Kinda let down. Was expecting something more grand.
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Honestly Superhero is such a weird name, but it got me thinking...

What if it's Goku meeting someone who acts more like an actual typical western superhero? Like, an actual Superman expy that almost shares his exact powerset and personality? I feel like that would be a pretty interesting thing to do for the movie.. though i'm probably wrong lol
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Can't say I'm impressed with this.

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No king reigns forever. For me, Broly was the sort of "fond send-off" for this entire epic. I grew up on Dragon Ball, but these days...My Hero Academia and Demon Slayer are much more of what I'm into.

I hope it is good and that the fans enjoy it.
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Chrispy_G wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:11 pm No king reigns forever. For me, Broly was the sort of "fond send-off" for this entire epic. I grew up on Dragon Ball, but these days...My Hero Academia and Demon Slayer are much more of what I'm into.

I hope it is good and that the fans enjoy it.
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Eh Demon Slayer doesn't interest me in the slightest but I definitely wanna give My Hero a try at some point. It's obviously my kind of anime.
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Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:59 pm Eh Demon Slayer doesn't interest me in the slightest but I definitely wanna give My Hero a try at some point. It's obviously my kind of anime.
You really should. It's pretty great and the current arc is freaking amazing.

When you do get to watch it let me know, I hope you like it.

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I've always found Freeza's 3rd form to just be redundant and unnecessary. I'm not a fan of the overly spikey design, the aesthetic just veers too far towards weird and borderline goofy, the alien-shaped head does nothing for me. The other 3 designs still carry a weight and power to them.

Freeza's first form is the iconic image of the character, his first transformation is a dramatic reveal of his even greater power and they battle and struggle with that form for quite some time. 3rd form feels like it just shows up to one-up Piccolo, when a simple 'I'll power up real quick, I've been holding back' would have sufficed. Then the 3rd form is quickly dispatched because I bet those involved likely realized either how weird/silly/ineffective it looked OR Toriyama didn't like having to keep drawing such a complex design....likely a little of both.

Final form is so simplified, completely threatening and lethal...it feels like the most truly evil of the looks.

I think any reboot or retelling of the series would be wise to just go with 3 main forms for Freeza instead of 4. Give the 'Battle with Freeza before Goky arrives' a nice little 3 act structure for the 3 forms. From the preamble of "Vegeta is strong enough to hold his own" against first form to the very drawn out "Oh crap well maybe if we work together and have super Piccolo, Gohan raging out and Dende healing we can hold him off" main course of the fight to "we are hopelessly screwed and Vegeta is our strongest and he can't even land a hit" conclusion.
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Chrispy_G wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:17 am I've always found Freeza's 3rd form to just be redundant and unnecessary. I'm not a fan of the overly spikey design, the aesthetic just veers too far towards weird and borderline goofy, the alien-shaped head does nothing for me. The other 3 designs still carry a weight and power to them.

Freeza's first form is the iconic image of the character, his first transformation is a dramatic reveal of his even greater power and they battle and struggle with that form for quite some time. 3rd form feels like it just shows up to one-up Piccolo, when a simple 'I'll power up real quick, I've been holding back' would have sufficed. Then the 3rd form is quickly dispatched because I bet those involved likely realized either how weird/silly/ineffective it looked OR Toriyama didn't like having to keep drawing such a complex design....likely a little of both.

Final form is so simplified, completely threatening and lethal...it feels like the most truly evil of the looks.

I think any reboot or retelling of the series would be wise to just go with 3 main forms for Freeza instead of 4. Give the 'Battle with Freeza before Goky arrives' a nice little 3 act structure for the 3 forms. From the preamble of "Vegeta is strong enough to hold his own" against first form to the very drawn out "Oh crap well maybe if we work together and have super Piccolo, Gohan raging out and Dende healing we can hold him off" main course of the fight to "we are hopelessly screwed and Vegeta is our strongest and he can't even land a hit" conclusion.
Frieza's 3rd form was created because Toriyama liked Aliens and he was building up Frieza's forms becoming more and more monsteruous so the final form would subvert expectations.
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The first trailer for Super Hero dropped today at New York Comic Con. It's interesting to be sure. The combo CG and cell shaded animation looks decent in some shot and a but wonky in others. Also Broly apparently has a bit part in the film. Though probably nothing more than an extended cameo.

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miguelnuva wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:40 am Frieza's 3rd form was created because Toriyama liked Aliens and he was building up Frieza's forms becoming more and more monsteruous so the final form would subvert expectations.
I mean, that's fine that he has a reason/justification but I still feel that it really doesn't work. To do an entire section with a new form just for the alien tribute and misdirection of 'each form is more wild than the last'...that just feels like a gimmick and it ultimately weakens, not strengthens, the narrative.

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Also...ouch, that trailer looks incredibly rough. The number of shots that look 'passable/good/kinda cool' are greatly outnumbered by the number of shots that just feel completely odd. Visually it just does not feel right. The frame-rate of the motion, and the overall smoothness of it(which relates to the framerate but also has other factors) just does NOT feel right. The guy in the purple suit has a walking animation that looks like it is from a bad early 00s video game cutscene.

I'm sure plenty of it is rough and will be refined, but gosh it just feels SO "Not Dragon Ball" to me aesthetically.

And apparently the Red Ribbon Army is back here?

I don't like that the "Super" era has sort of just been a kind of 'do a throwback/nostalgia trip for fun' kind of practice. Bring Freeza back twice, do another Future Trunks/Time Travel arc, bring Vegito back, fully canonize Broly and Gogeta, etc etc and now the Red Ribbon Army is back?

It feels so much like this brand is getting the kind of...Star Wars treatment. Not saying a WORD about quality, that is a separate discussion...but this kind of "we are going to bring back a wildly popular but currently dormant franchise and just absolutely weaponize nostalgia for the classic stuff but not really do anything particularly satisfying on a creative level" along with "We are going to just drown the market in content from this new era of the property"
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The new CG animation just looks all wrong. Don't like it. They struck absolute gold with the animation in Broly, why change it?
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The villain design looks pretty good.

But man, this feels like such a step down from Broly. Who knows though, maybe it’ll be better in film and it’s just a bad trailer.
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