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What is your favorite DC film thus far?

Man of Steel
1
2%
Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice
6
15%
Suicide Squad
1
2%
Wonder Woman
4
10%
Justice League
0
No votes
Aquaman
1
2%
Shazam!
2
5%
Birds of Prey
1
2%
Wonder Woman 1984
0
No votes
Zack Snyder's Justice League
5
12%
The Suicide Squad
20
49%
 
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_JNavs_ wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:36 pm Just seems like another Marvel movie to me tbh, which is what I was afraid of.

But, even though King Shark is one of the most Marvel things about this trailer, i think he'll be the best character.
Well, yes because James Gunn is the best MCU director and all but 3 directors of that franchise decided to shamelessly rip it off after 2014 until it became "the Marvel style" ;)

Honestly, I don't feel Marvel any more then I feel Marvel in any other movie where a character quips.
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I think
Man of Steel
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
Zack Snyder's Justice League

Probably form a really exceptional trilogy. Suicide Squad is certainly not "required viewing"...you need no prior context for Joker's "reveal" in the Knightmare scene. You don't need any sense of "Oh I know this Joker guy because of Suicide Squad"....and with Wonder Woman....well, the character is properly introduced as a 'new' character in BvS....and Justice League expands on the Amazonians pretty darn well after that.

BvS shows she fought in WWI via the photograph, and as far as I remember...I don't THINK Steve Trevor is never mentioned by name directly in Snyder's JL(It felt like Whedon forced a mention in of him wherever possible).....I think Diana just makes a vague reference to 'once knowing someone' who would have loved to fly the Batwing or whatever it is.

So...I haven't done it, but I would be very interested in watching Snyder's Trilogy of films he directed and seeing just how well it flows without diverging for SS or even WW.

The way that BvS begins within the finale of MOS and JL begins within the finale of BvS really seems like it would make this trilogy link up in a really good way without any other films thrown in.
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Watched the Snyder Cut and I have to say, I'm pretty surprised I liked it as much as I did. On exception of Wonder Woman, I didn't really like any of the DC films until Shazam (though I respect the vision behind Aquaman). Since then I've liked every DC film but thought the Snyder Cut was going to be a snooze fest. Glad I'm wrong.

Now with a really fun looking Suicide Squad trailer, I feel like DC's been on a roll.
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Many people I know (including some who hate the previous films as much as I did) are saying the Snyder Cut is great. Even the boys at RedLetterMedia liked it. Color me intrigued...
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For me, I LOVED Man of Steel.

BvS I was sour on in theaters, but the Ultimate Edition was a much much stronger version of that film

Suicide Squad was...fairly entertaining but had horrible tone/style issues...but when you hire a trailer company to re-edit/re-structure your film...things like that tend to happen. I would 100% love to give the Ayer Cut a chance.

Wonder Woman...I felt was over-rated. Not bad, definitely good, but just not some kind of masterpiece many made it out to be. BUT compared to recent trash like Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman 1984....the first Wonder Woman might as well be considered a masterpiece.

Josstice League was messy garbage

Aquaman didn't do anything for me, neither did Shazam.

Birds of Prey was trash. So was Wonder Woman 1984.

I can't stop thinking about Snyder's Justice League...I cannot wait to watch it again, buy the 4K, marathon Snyder's 3 DC films...and just hope and pray that we get to see a restoration of the Snyderverse.

I think James Gunn's The Suicide Squad looks....exactly like you would expect. 5-7 years ago when Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool were the absolute "Hot ticket" style everyone loved, I'd be all over this movie.

But now, in 2021...just like the MCU overall, and the type of humor/style that films like Guardians and Deadpool had....it feels bland. The jokes feel like they are trying too hard to go for that sort of edgy, shock-value humor. Trying so hard to be "adult" that it all comes off as incredibly immature.
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I LIKED Man of Steel, but I recognize it has its flaws, which haters have pointed out ad nauseum.

But the Snyder Cut was the first DCEU film I felt was truly exceptional. WW almost reached that mark, but the sloggy third act and underwhelming villain kinda keep it from reaching its full potential.

In any case, I'll def be seeing The Suicide Squad day one. Come on, you know you loved seeing King Shark eat and rip a guy in half as much as I did. John Campea loved it as well.
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I thought Man of Steel was pretty good.
BVS is entertaining and probably has some of the best action in the DCEU.
Suicide Squad was rather lackluster. Some cool scenes.
Wonder Woman was,yeah, overrated. A little too slow and not really that exciting when there was action.
Enjoyed Josstice League first time around.
Aquaman was the best of the whole DCEU.
Shazam I didn't like for the most part but it wasn't painful-eque to watch like alot of Suicide Squad.
Didn't see Birds.
Snyder Cut was good but I do not like Stephenwolf's design. His proportions are strange, the way he moves when kind of still looks stiff. Weird hands, weird horns, weird face, weird armor, the way he grunts all the time. Probably won't watch Snyder Cut even in clips many times like I did with BVS.
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I'm just going to say this.

King Shark deserves his own movie.

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GodzillaFan1990's wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:25 pm I'm just going to say this.

King Shark deserves his own movie.
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KManX89 wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:16 amCome on, you know you loved seeing King Shark eat and rip a guy in half as much as I did. John Campea loved it as well.
That kind of thing, that "Come on, saw King Shark eat a guy!"...that sort of flash doesn't really do it for me any more.

And honestly...John Campea is not the guy I tend to enjoy agreeing with, the dude has become unbearable in the last several years.
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GodzillaFan1990's wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:25 pm I'm just going to say this.

King Shark deserves his own movie.
90s, I literally have never agreed with a statement on this entire fourm more.
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The Suicide Squad trailer actually looks really promising. It looks like they made an actual movie this time, and the villains will be allowed to be themselves, nothing toned down at all. Is there some Marvel-esque quipping and absurdity for the sake of absurdity? Of course. Do I see this as a bad thing? Not at all. King Shark already looks like the greatest thing in DC history.
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I do wish they went with the hammerhead design for King Shark as I feel it would have given off more character vibes to him but it's understandable why they didn't as Gunn had difficulty making it work.

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Rando Yaguchi wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:09 pm Many people I know (including some who hate the previous films as much as I did) are saying the Snyder Cut is great. Even the boys at RedLetterMedia liked it. Color me intrigued...
Great is a stretch of a compliment to that version. It's good within reasons and is a significant improvement, but still has its share of issues holding it back.

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Man of Steel is the epitome of mediocrity. It has the makings of a really good film but the execution is lacking, the structure was a mess, and the long drawn out fight scene was incredibly hard to follow and honestly a bit boring. People bitch about Michael Bay but the action in MoS was almost as bad.

After the dismal reviews for Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad I just didn't care any more.

The only other DCEU movie I watched was Aquaman and I actually quite liked it. The first act feels a bit rushed and some of the acting early on was questionable but once Black Manta arrives in Sicily the film really kicks into gear and the rest is an absolute blast.

As for the DCEU at large I really don't care. I'll probably keep an eye on Aquaman and The Batman definitely has my attention but this universe was pretty much dead on arrival. I'm still interested in the DC films just not the DCEU.
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Rando Yaguchi wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:09 pm Many people I know (including some who hate the previous films as much as I did) are saying the Snyder Cut is great. Even the boys at RedLetterMedia liked it. Color me intrigued...
Yeah I noticed that. For a while I thought the only person they hated more than Snyder was Adam Sandler. Anyways, anyone enjoy the Snyder cut alongside GvK? I just thought I'd ask because of the delicious irony that Snyder fans have against GvK. Just gonna say I love both films! :Godzilla68: :Superman: :Batman:

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Yo dudes! Before I give my thoughts on Snyder's JL, let me tell you where I currently stand with all the other DCEUCUMEYOUTOMANYLETTERSU universe.

1) Man of Steel = Liked it more than Superman Returns, but that's not saying much. It was ok.
2) Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice = An overly bloated and miserable experience.
3) Suicide Squad = Liked some of the cast, hated just about everything else.
4) Wonder Woman = Actually good! OK, DC gave us a good one here! It had its flaws, but I overall really liked it.
5) Justice League = A lifeless mess that was a shoddy patch job
6) Aquaman = Not awful...but not particularly memorable. I attribute Momoa's good looks drawing in the ladies being the main reason it did so well.
7) Shazam! = Surprisingly good, maybe even my favorite one up to this point.
8) Birds of Prey = Awful and forgettable
9) Wonder Woman 1984 = WHAT HAPPENED?! I thought Wonder Woman was the dependable one. Overly long and sloppy mess.

So I'm coming into this shindig without a lot of love for the DC films, and after seeing the theatrical cut of JL, I thought it was un-save-able! Also, having seen Batman V Superman, lets just say I didn't have any faith in Zack Snyder's unfiltered vision. And when I saw it was 4 hours? Woof.

I wasn't against WB releasing it. I thought "Meh, it'll be an interesting experience to compare this to what the theatrical cut was" and hey, if the fans want it, let them have it. I knew I was going to watch it, but I never dreamed I would actually enjoy it. If it managed to be better than the theatrical cut (no big win there honestly), I'd have called that a win. But I never envisioned it would actually be good.

Well somebody better throw some crow on the grill, marinate that bird, and serve it up to me on a hamburger bun because I am ready to chow down on some of that black bird right about now!

I actually liked Snyder's JL! I never got bored, and everything, LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE GD THING, is better in this cut than it is in theatrical. Its absolutely astonishing.

Theatrical cut: I wanted to murder Flash with my bare hands.
Snyder cut: I actually kind of liked him and the role he played in the climax.

Theatrical cut: Cyborg was uninteresting and came off like lesser Iron Man
Snyder Cut: Oh...oh man...I feel for you bro. WHERE IS THE DAMN TISSUE!

Theatrical cut: Steppenwolf is basically just a video game boss going "pew pew" at the good guys.
Snyder cut: HE HAS A MOTIVATION?!?! WHAAAAAAAT! And he actually feels like a threat?!?!? WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA!

And the movie is loaded with things like that. Plotholes are filled up, everything flows well, the characters all have their moments to shine, and just about everything makes sense! I'm amazed. Legitimately amazed.

I didn't love all of it. Martian Manhunter could have been left out and you'd lose nothing, and heck I'd say that about the whole epilogue. And scenes like the people singing to Aquaman like he's Jesus probably could have been left out too. But screw it, this was the movie Zack wanted to make and IMHOBAPO, he over delivered. GFY....good for you buddy!

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Rurouni Senator wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:40 pm
Rando Yaguchi wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:09 pm Many people I know (including some who hate the previous films as much as I did) are saying the Snyder Cut is great. Even the boys at RedLetterMedia liked it. Color me intrigued...
Great is a stretch of a compliment to that version.
Not really, fantastic is the general consensus for that version.

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My thing is, if people want their safe lighthearted quippy central, comedy, family films there's clearly already a universe out there doing that.

Why should DC copy that? Look at where that's lead us, WW84, SS, I'd even put Shazam in there for the fact that his movie was literally just Spy Kids: Superpowers which feels completely dissolved from what we got in MOS and BVS.

But I'm sure most of you guys'll disagree, I'd prefer if DC films focused on being these grandiose sci-fi fantasy epics, like ZSJL, or dark, grounded, and gritty situations our heroes go through daily, like MOS, BvS or TDK, or even Aquaman. I hear some of you calling BvS and MoS "bloated" or "pretentious" or literally "miserable experiences", and I can say without a doubt you're exaggerating.

Heroes struggle, Movies have literary themes, CBM stories can strive for a higher level of thinking, and character arcs exist. It seems like some people don't want to see the genre evolve beyond villain of the week Macguffin comedies because "Comic books". To that I say, read a DC comic book and you'll find the tone to be much darker, and much deeper than just fisticuffs.
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Duvernay's New Gods was canned. Very glad. Anyone who saw "A Wrinkle In Time" would no that she is not the right filmmaker to be handling something like that.

Martin Campbell made 2 great "reboots" for James Bond, both Goldeneye and Casino Royale, but he made a trash Green Lantern...not saying it was all his fault, but I think he was certainly not 'the right man for the job' in terms of the subject matter.

Also...New Gods being canned feels like it would be a good sign for any "RestoreTheSnyderverse" movement that is going on.

Release the Ayer Cut. When you look into and read all of the confirmed changes to the film, Ayer's Cut sounds like a dramatic improvement...and according to him, it wouldn't take anywhere close to $70M to complete it, I believe it is BASICALLY done according to him.

Not just stuff like the overall tone, where he says it was "beaten into" being a comedy. Not just stuff like the overall editing style where they handed it to a trailer company and insisted on the near constant inclusion of a non-stop soundtrack of featured songs....those two things alone would be big, but there were also key content changes.

Enchantress was meant to be under the influence/driven by a MotherBox, the weird concept of her "Brother" was meant to be a Parademon, and the film was meant to set up and foreshadow Steppenwolf's looming invasion.

All of those things would have worked better.

He says audiences didn't even get to really see Leto's performance because it was gutted from the film. They apparently completely tone-downed and removed the abusive aspect of his dynamic with Harley.

Beyond that, Joker was meant to be part of the finale, where he survives his plane crash, and makes a deal with Enchantress to become "king of Gotham" with Harley at his side. So in the finale Flag has to work against the woman he cares for, and Harley must work against the man she cares for.

So it sounds like there are significant, meaningful changes that the Ayer cut would have that would deliver a much stronger movie. I'm all for it, for me...that is the next step in this process of restoring the Snyderverse. First was his JL, next is Ayer's SS....and then they need to cancel some of the movies that would be going against Snyder's JL and green-light Snyder's JL 2 and 3 along with other films that would be part of his universe.
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Chrispy_G wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:54 pm Duvernay's New Gods was canned. Very glad. Anyone who saw "A Wrinkle In Time" would no that she is not the right filmmaker to be handling something like that.

Martin Campbell made 2 great "reboots" for James Bond, both Goldeneye and Casino Royale, but he made a trash Green Lantern...not saying it was all his fault, but I think he was certainly not 'the right man for the job' in terms of the subject matter.

Also...New Gods being canned feels like it would be a good sign for any "RestoreTheSnyderverse" movement that is going on.

Release the Ayer Cut. When you look into and read all of the confirmed changes to the film, Ayer's Cut sounds like a dramatic improvement...and according to him, it wouldn't take anywhere close to $70M to complete it, I believe it is BASICALLY done according to him.

Not just stuff like the overall tone, where he says it was "beaten into" being a comedy. Not just stuff like the overall editing style where they handed it to a trailer company and insisted on the near constant inclusion of a non-stop soundtrack of featured songs....those two things alone would be big, but there were also key content changes.

Enchantress was meant to be under the influence/driven by a MotherBox, the weird concept of her "Brother" was meant to be a Parademon, and the film was meant to set up and foreshadow Steppenwolf's looming invasion.

All of those things would have worked better.

He says audiences didn't even get to really see Leto's performance because it was gutted from the film. They apparently completely tone-downed and removed the abusive aspect of his dynamic with Harley.

Beyond that, Joker was meant to be part of the finale, where he survives his plane crash, and makes a deal with Enchantress to become "king of Gotham" with Harley at his side. So in the finale Flag has to work against the woman he cares for, and Harley must work against the man she cares for.

So it sounds like there are significant, meaningful changes that the Ayer cut would have that would deliver a much stronger movie. I'm all for it, for me...that is the next step in this process of restoring the Snyderverse. First was his JL, next is Ayer's SS....and then they need to cancel some of the movies that would be going against Snyder's JL and green-light Snyder's JL 2 and 3 along with other films that would be part of his universe.
Unfortunately, they already said it's not happening.

Hardly surprising because WB are fucking morons. Speaking of WB's idiocy, I believe it was you who said this, JNavs:
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