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Evidence of what appears to be further evolution on the ancestors of pterosaurs'.

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It seems archosaur diversification in the Triassic was much quicker than many might have expected. At this point with how prevalent endothermic metabolism no doubt was, and how bird feathers (and presumably pterosaur pycnofibres) are genetically homologous to crocodilian scutes; I won't be shocked at all if we find out fuzzy bodies were right at the base of the archosaur family tree. Plenty of Triassic crocodilian relation were just as active as plenty of dinosaurs and could be both small and large; so it doesn't seem like there's much stopping it.



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Gigantis wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:24 am
Just as display? You sure they didn't use it as a stabbing device?
...I mean, not only are they likely not built strong enough for that (they're made of keratin and are extremely thin) but what reason would you put a stabbing device on your back?
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:34 am
Gigantis wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:24 am
Just as display? You sure they didn't use it as a stabbing device?
...I mean, not only are they likely not built strong enough for that (they're made of keratin and are extremely thin) but what reason would you put a stabbing device on your back?
While I do think it's display mostly, there are some examples in nature of dorsum stabbing structures. Notice how most antelope have rear facing horns? While these are chiefly used for display as well as competitions between themselves, they do help to try and stab at their primary predators, large felines; which tend to try and get on their back.
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Desghidorah wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:19 pm
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:34 am
Gigantis wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:24 am
Just as display? You sure they didn't use it as a stabbing device?
...I mean, not only are they likely not built strong enough for that (they're made of keratin and are extremely thin) but what reason would you put a stabbing device on your back?
While I do think it's display mostly, there are some examples in nature of dorsum stabbing structures. Notice how most antelope have rear facing horns? While these are chiefly used for display as well as competitions between themselves, they do help to try and stab at their primary predators, large felines; which tend to try and get on their back.
Yeah, that occurred to me but again, they seem much more like advanced display feathers in structure then any kind of horn. At best, I'd assume maybe it could be used to make it look bigger and intimidate the odd pterosaur
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:40 pm
Desghidorah wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:19 pm
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:34 am

...I mean, not only are they likely not built strong enough for that (they're made of keratin and are extremely thin) but what reason would you put a stabbing device on your back?
While I do think it's display mostly, there are some examples in nature of dorsum stabbing structures. Notice how most antelope have rear facing horns? While these are chiefly used for display as well as competitions between themselves, they do help to try and stab at their primary predators, large felines; which tend to try and get on their back.
Yeah, that occurred to me but again, they seem much more like advanced display feathers in structure then any kind of horn. At best, I'd assume maybe it could be used to make it look bigger and intimidate the odd pterosaur
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:40 pm
Desghidorah wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:19 pm
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:34 am ...I mean, not only are they likely not built strong enough for that (they're made of keratin and are extremely thin) but what reason would you put a stabbing device on your back?
While I do think it's display mostly, there are some examples in nature of dorsum stabbing structures. Notice how most antelope have rear facing horns? While these are chiefly used for display as well as competitions between themselves, they do help to try and stab at their primary predators, large felines; which tend to try and get on their back.
Yeah, that occurred to me but again, they seem much more like advanced display feathers in structure then any kind of horn. At best, I'd assume maybe it could be used to make it look bigger and intimidate the odd pterosaur
I haven't seen the paper or really stared at the fossils yet, but supposing these pokers did have some sort of defensive function, would porcupine quills or poison-tipped spines be a possibility? Maybe the things could have been detachable and/or had a channel to draw poison from a gland at the shoulders down to the tips when at rest, to be raised when in danger.

Presuming they weren't defensive, that theoretical channel could instead serve as a wick for scent glands, like a living aroma diffuser stick it could wave around to attract mates.

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I still think this is a Psittacosaurus situation. These all seem like plausible uses but based on how sparse they are and the make up says its just display.

In more depressing news, this species is now part of a controversy. The German scientists who named and studied the fossil reportedly illegally smuggled it out of Brazil, and have acted disparingly about actually studying it side by side with the Brazilian authorities. So, still cool but definitely a little less interesting now
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They're so... lumpy

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Noble Saber wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:47 pm
AllosaurHell wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:27 pm
Manuelito Canelito wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:15 am

Have there been any studies done to the Monster? I remember finding it sourced at the Internet many years, but I just can't find any studies done, especially about it's size
All that I really know is that the fossils that were thought to belong to a large Liopleurodon were this thing all along, but I don't know if any studies are publicly available.
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McHenry puts the animal at about 11.7 meters and 15 tons. Here’s another accurate measurement. https://www.deviantart.com/randomdinos/ ... -630335385
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Dire Wolves no longer considered a member of the genus Canis!

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NSZ wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:00 am Dire Wolves no longer considered a member of the genus Canis!

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... es-reveal/
This is big

This basically will rewrite not only their entire life story, but also the cause of their extinction and how they interacted with modern wolves (which may have been the third factor alongside humans and the climate to take them out?)
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Huh. Well can't say i was expecting to learn about a new icthyosaur today.
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Anyone think it's possible that one day they'll find mummified remains of a ground sloth, or any other extinct native South American creature frozen in a Andean glacier?
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LegendZilla wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:30 pm Anyone think it's possible that one day they'll find mummified remains of a ground sloth, or any other extinct native South American creature frozen in a Andean glacier?
It's certainly possible. They only went extinct around 10,500 years ago. That said, there is significantly less of their range with ice still present, unlike mammoths. So we'd have to be really lucky.
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