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goji89 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:35 am People that shyt on sports are probably that guy that never got picked for a team and it hurts them.
Or it's just blatantly surface level.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:43 am
goji89 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 10:35 am People that shyt on sports are probably that guy that never got picked for a team and it hurts them.
Or it's just blatantly surface level.
It's the same people that like participation trophies.

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_JNavs_ wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 9:21 am
KK42 wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 9:13 am
_JNavs_ wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 8:59 am Athletes play glorified middle school recess games for multimillions.
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Come on, man. I don't care for sports myself, but even I think this is way too much.

No offense, but I can't tell if you're trying to be edgy, or are just bitter that sport culture is more popular than nerd culture.
Neither, just not the proudest that theres such a glorification for sports. But that's more an issue I personally have with society than anything specific to the topic at hand.

Ranking humans by how well their luck plays out on the field, watching people throw a ball for 3 hours. Idk its just not for me. I especially don't like how cocky most of the players are since what they're doing is, well I've said it already.

Feel free to ignore me on this one though lol
What LeBron James does and goes through to stay in basketball shape kinda throws a wrench in your argument.

And Jnavs do you like anything about Human society? This is like the 3rd thing you seem to hate about it.
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miguelnuva wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:36 pm And Jnavs do you like anything about Human society? This is like the 3rd thing you seem to hate about it.
I just think a lot of it needs to be revised, or be looked at completely differently, which I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking. Plenty of societal norms become pedestal'd when left unchecked. Like a cocky dude getting 300 million dollars to workout and shoot threes.

But again, I'm of the mind that sports are based (almost) entirely on luck, so I'd understand if you think differently.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:47 pm
miguelnuva wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:36 pm And Jnavs do you like anything about Human society? This is like the 3rd thing you seem to hate about it.
I just think a lot of it needs to be revised, or be looked at completely differently, which I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking. Plenty of societal norms become pedestal'd when left unchecked. Like a cocky dude getting 300 million dollars to workout and shoot threes.

But again, I'm of the mind that sports are based (almost) entirely on luck, so I'd understand if you think differently.
Fair enough but like I said, way too much goes into sports for it to just be mostly Luck. I would get my ass handed to me by Lebron James or Steph Curry. Luck would imply I have a chance.
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Speaking of sports, Ben Wallace is getting inducted to the Basketball Hall of Fame!
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As someone who enjoys both sports and video games, but moreso sports. Im not arguing video games dont require skill, especially at a high level. To me, a sport involves physical exterion including the possibility of injury within a competitive format, to give a loose definition. I also think you're ignoring the high level of technical skill that goes into mastering one's technique in sport. For me, it had nothing to do with glorification. I fenced, played soccer, football, and ran track for one year lol. I played those sports because I loved them, and loved competing with my friends, except track. Playing sports at a high level also requires some degree of mental aptitude. I dont see whats wrong with looking up to the people who have achieved mastery of their sport. I dont see how thats any different from looking up to a great director or writer.

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tbeasley wrote: Sun May 16, 2021 12:59 pm In my experience there's no such thing as luck.
Sometimes luck can help you when its close, but I've found the best athletes I've competed against and watched tend to get "lucky" more than anyone else. Makes you wonder...
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Saying that sports are entirely dependent on luck is ignoring the hundreds of hours that go into training and preparing for every game. In addition to getting their bodies into peak athletic condition, the coaching staff will construct (usually) game-specific strategies tailored to exploit their opponents weaknesses. The players learn the strategies and then have to implement them in game. It's not even always macro-strategy, there's a lot of micro-management that goes on during a game. It would be foolish to do all that if you're just hoping a ball bounces your way more often than it does for the other team.
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To each his own, but to me, athletes who literally bust their ass and cripple their bodies doing what they do and mastering their craft having to share a competitive space with skreeonking CoD players (!) is downright insulting and devalues what they do. If they want to make their own separate gig for CoD e-sports and put it on MTV and build a 15,000 seat arena for hosting MLG CoD tournaments, have at it, but it shouldn't be at the skreeonking X-games.
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KManX89 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 8:20 pm To each his own, but to me, athletes who literally bust their ass and cripple their bodies doing what they do and mastering their craft having to share a competitive space with skreeonking CoD players (!) is downright insulting and devalues what they do. If they want to make their own separate gig for CoD e-sports and put it on MTV and build a 15,000 seat arena for hosting MLG CoD tournaments, have at it, but it shouldn't be at the skreeonking X-games.
I see both sides of the argument because the e sports person takes the same risks other than the potential injury which they also take a chance on to a much much smaller degree. Not everyone that plays games can play at that level.
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miguelnuva wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 8:40 pm I see both sides of the argument because the e sports person takes the same risks other than the potential injury which they also take a chance on to a much much smaller degree. Not everyone that plays games can play at that level.
I disagree with even that statement. There's a very specific sweet spot in which you can enter a professional career in sports, and it's a much more competitive environment. The serious sports people devote everything to that life. No one becomes a professional athlete randomly in their 30's. Sure, you can find a few very specific examples, but you get what I mean.

Spoiler alert, but esports gamers can totally disregard their health. To real athletes, health is paramount. Irreplaceable.
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LSD Jellyfish wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 10:19 pm
miguelnuva wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 8:40 pm I see both sides of the argument because the e sports person takes the same risks other than the potential injury which they also take a chance on to a much much smaller degree. Not everyone that plays games can play at that level.
I disagree with even that statement. There's a very specific sweet spot in which you can enter a professional career in sports, and it's a much more competitive environment. The serious sports people devote everything to that life. No one becomes a professional athlete randomly in their 30's. Sure, you can find a few very specific examples, but you get what I mean.

Spoiler alert, but esports gamers can totally disregard their health. To real athletes, health is paramount. Irreplaceable.
If an esports player gets fat, their fingers could move a fraction of a second slower. Like I said they have no where near the risk or mandatory health needs as a physical athlete but like I said I can see both sides of the argument.
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Break one finger at ANY point in your life and your career is shattered.

Same concept with the Achilles heel.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 11:45 pm Break one finger at ANY point in your life and your career is shattered.

Same concept with the Achilles heel.
Arthritis or eye strains as well. It's why I say I can see both sides of the debate.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 11:45 pm Break one finger at ANY point in your life and your career is shattered.

Same concept with the Achilles heel.
You have a significantly better chance of tearing your ACL playing football and/or busting your ass snowboarding/BMX/skateboarding than you do breaking a finger playing a videogame. Hell, basketball is riskier than playing a videogame. I played Mario Party religiously on the N64's agape controller ripe with its Tug of War mini-game and my thumb's still fine all these years later.

E-sports players also don't have to diet/train to get their body at peak physical condition like real athletes do.

Putting e-sports at the X-games is a joke.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 11:45 pm Break one finger at ANY point in your life and your career is shattered.

Same concept with the Achilles heel.


Watch an average Hockey game and than tell me that E-Sports and Physical Sports are one and the same. I'm not devaluing E-Sports at all, I've read plenty about the just stupid amounts of practice, time, and commitment, tedium and stress that teams go through in order to compete at the top end its a big taxing individual and team-based effort. But E-Sports /=/ Physical Sports and vice-versa they are two separate things that should exist in their own world and attempts to mash them together result in irreconcilable differences

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Taking a break from this riveting debate, have y'all heard about Elon Musk's SpaceLink satellite chain?
https://earthsky.org/space/spacex-starl ... explained/
I saw them over my house Saturday night, and figured it was a convoy of military planes heading towards a base or something. More space litter.
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Major sssspielberg! wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:49 am Taking a break from this riveting debate, have y'all heard about Elon Musk's SpaceLink satellite chain?
https://earthsky.org/space/spacex-starl ... explained/
I saw them over my house Saturday night, and figured it was a convoy of military planes heading towards a base or something. More space litter.
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Major sssspielberg! wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:49 am Taking a break from this riveting debate, have y'all heard about Elon Musk's SpaceLink satellite chain?
https://earthsky.org/space/spacex-starl ... explained/
I saw them over my house Saturday night, and figured it was a convoy of military planes heading towards a base or something. More space litter.
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At this point I’m convinced UFOs exist, but they are ours. Really cool and spooky. There’s a lot I’m skeptical about with Mr. Musk, but I don’t deny there are a lot of recent advancements that his stuff has done that’s awesome. I do like the increased interest in space travel and other super wild things.

Despite that, we do need to make a plan to stop so much space litter.
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