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Their biggest enemy is time. Their license is for 2-3 years after which Toho can choose not to renew it. Assuming they have it until January 2024 (3 years after the announcement), their current pace of 1 wave every 3 months means that we would get 7-8 waves of Ultimates before it comes time to renew. That seems like just enough to get all the heavy hitters from Heisei out. Toho seems to love Heisei, so doing a full Heisei line could probably go a long way with building goodwill and getting the license extended.
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Have the ReAction figures been sighted in any actual stores (namely FYE or Target)? I'm kind of curious to buy them, but I'd rather see them in-person before making that decision.
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A friend of mine found them in FYE a few weeks ago.MaxRebo320 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:48 am Have the ReAction figures been sighted in any actual stores (namely FYE or Target)? I'm kind of curious to buy them, but I'd rather see them in-person before making that decision.
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Cool, I guess I'll keep my eyes peeled then. I saw the Marusan reissue at my local FYE a month or so ago, and it was actually cheaper (around $14) than what I bought if for online ($20).
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I guess I'm a little confused on what you're arguing here, because earlier you seemed to be implying the Showa movies would be hard to get through chronologically because of how many monsters repeat from film to film, but now you're not convinced they'll do any more variants of one monster than they absolutely need to.InfiniteHollywood wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:44 amThis is why I said the plan to do Heisei stuff as Ultimates first makes more sense. Godzilla looked different, sometimes vastly different in every Showa film. Although there were changes in each Heisei film, to the untrained eye, they largely looked the same.Fermix wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:07 am The predominant reason I'm saying it could happen is that the first Ultimate was solicited as "Heisei Godzilla" as opposed to "Godzilla 89" or "Godzilla vs. Biollante - Godzilla". That appears to me as them wanting to release definitive incarnations of Godzilla and avoid doing suits that are nearly identical. IF there are Showa suits that are similar enough to get away with it, I could see them coming with interchangeable parts.
I suspect we'll get a "50s Godzilla" and a "60s Godzilla" and maybe a "70s Godzilla" if and when they do Showa ultimates.
Almost no one would buy every Showa incarnation. Remember their market is more than just hardcore kaiju fans.
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Nope, what I’ve said remains the same. I’ve been clear on this. Showa has a lot of repeat monsters in films, especially chronological. That makes it hard to theme a 2 figure wave IMO. Likewise I don’t believe they will do every version of Godzilla from Showa, just like they’re not going to do every Godzilla from Heisei.DrBreakfastMachine wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:00 pmI guess I'm a little confused on what you're arguing here, because earlier you seemed to be implying the Showa movies would be hard to get through chronologically because of how many monsters repeat from film to film, but now you're not convinced they'll do any more variants of one monster than they absolutely need to.InfiniteHollywood wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:44 amThis is why I said the plan to do Heisei stuff as Ultimates first makes more sense. Godzilla looked different, sometimes vastly different in every Showa film. Although there were changes in each Heisei film, to the untrained eye, they largely looked the same.Fermix wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:07 am The predominant reason I'm saying it could happen is that the first Ultimate was solicited as "Heisei Godzilla" as opposed to "Godzilla 89" or "Godzilla vs. Biollante - Godzilla". That appears to me as them wanting to release definitive incarnations of Godzilla and avoid doing suits that are nearly identical. IF there are Showa suits that are similar enough to get away with it, I could see them coming with interchangeable parts.
I suspect we'll get a "50s Godzilla" and a "60s Godzilla" and maybe a "70s Godzilla" if and when they do Showa ultimates.
Almost no one would buy every Showa incarnation. Remember their market is more than just hardcore kaiju fans.
The monsters rarely changed much in Showa films. Sometimes they did. But that’s irrelevant to the Godzilla suits which pretty much changed every film. I suspect they will do more “catch all” versions of the Showa Godzillas when they get to them. But with the other monsters, one is as good as any.
We’re already seeing this with ReAction. Godzillas have unique designs and year designations, whilst the other monsters do not.
They can get away with releasing umpteen variants of Godzilla in ReAction but probably not at $80 Ultimates. So while I don’t know for certain or anything, I wouldn’t be shocked to see amalgamations or versions with multiple heads or so way to kinda cover several films/era of Godzilla per release.
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Personally I hope the “theme” idea gets dropped entirely. I don’t care about it. At all.
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I'm still unclear on what the issue is. Burning Godzilla and Super MG already break the idea that every wave is going to be themed around one movie.InfiniteHollywood wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:53 pmNope, what I’ve said remains the same. I’ve been clear on this. Showa has a lot of repeat monsters in films, especially chronological. That makes it hard to theme a 2 figure wave IMO. Likewise I don’t believe they will do every version of Godzilla from Showa, just like they’re not going to do every Godzilla from Heisei.DrBreakfastMachine wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:00 pmI guess I'm a little confused on what you're arguing here, because earlier you seemed to be implying the Showa movies would be hard to get through chronologically because of how many monsters repeat from film to film, but now you're not convinced they'll do any more variants of one monster than they absolutely need to.InfiniteHollywood wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:44 am
This is why I said the plan to do Heisei stuff as Ultimates first makes more sense. Godzilla looked different, sometimes vastly different in every Showa film. Although there were changes in each Heisei film, to the untrained eye, they largely looked the same.
I suspect we'll get a "50s Godzilla" and a "60s Godzilla" and maybe a "70s Godzilla" if and when they do Showa ultimates.
Almost no one would buy every Showa incarnation. Remember their market is more than just hardcore kaiju fans.
The monsters rarely changed much in Showa films. Sometimes they did. But that’s irrelevant to the Godzilla suits which pretty much changed every film. I suspect they will do more “catch all” versions of the Showa Godzillas when they get to them. But with the other monsters, one is as good as any.
We’re already seeing this with ReAction. Godzillas have unique designs and year designations, whilst the other monsters do not.
They can get away with releasing umpteen variants of Godzilla in ReAction but probably not at $80 Ultimates. So while I don’t know for certain or anything, I wouldn’t be shocked to see amalgamations or versions with multiple heads or so way to kinda cover several films/era of Godzilla per release.
They might have to fudge it around a bit but I think they will still be able to mostly do chronological for Showa. There are a lot of 2-monster pairings that make sense to me even if they debut in different movies. You could pair Anguirus 68 with Gigan even though the suit debuted earlier, then Megalon and JJ, then Godzilla 74 with King Caesar, then MG and Titanosaurus, for instance.
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Am I right to assume that after every Super7 Ultimate that's released, we're going to devolve into "But muh Showa!!!" complaints, virtually making this SHMA Thread 2.
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Well right now there's not much else to talk about. But once figures are shipping and the schedule is more solidified I imagine it'll be at least a little better.
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No.Mac Daddy MM wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:20 pm Am I right to assume that after every Super7 Ultimate that's released, we're going to devolve into "But muh Showa!!!" complaints, virtually making this SHMA Thread 2.
Because unlike MonsterArts, we KNOW what their game plan is. Why poke the hornets nest when we all know this?
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Did you read any of the previous posts?Legion1979 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:34 pmNo.Mac Daddy MM wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:20 pm Am I right to assume that after every Super7 Ultimate that's released, we're going to devolve into "But muh Showa!!!" complaints, virtually making this SHMA Thread 2.
Because unlike MonsterArts, we KNOW what their game plan is. Why poke the hornets nest when we all know this?
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What? They're not getting to Showa eventually?
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Holy moly, how is there 60+ pages worth of anything to say about these figures?
Never change, TK.
That said, I think these small recent ones are moderately cool. The glow ones seem worth having. Shame the '57, despite being a super exciting idea, isn't more differentiated sculpt-wise from the '54.
Never change, TK.
That said, I think these small recent ones are moderately cool. The glow ones seem worth having. Shame the '57, despite being a super exciting idea, isn't more differentiated sculpt-wise from the '54.
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Holy crap, welcome back to TK!Jomei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:37 pm Holy moly, how is there 60+ pages worth of anything to say about these figures?
Never change, TK.
That said, I think these small recent ones are moderately cool. The glow ones seem worth having. Shame the '57, despite being a super exciting idea, isn't more differentiated sculpt-wise from the '54.
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Jomei you're alive, I thought you were a casualty of the Leaks War of 15.Jomei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:37 pm Holy moly, how is there 60+ pages worth of anything to say about these figures?
Never change, TK.
That said, I think these small recent ones are moderately cool. The glow ones seem worth having. Shame the '57, despite being a super exciting idea, isn't more differentiated sculpt-wise from the '54.
Anyway looks like Burning G is looking more like a later Heisei Godzilla and not a repaint of Biogoji.
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Thanks man. I'm working on a book project regarding another forum I was deeply involved in, and it struck me... hey, drama aside, there's no reason I can't post at TK. Current mod-ship seems decent here at the moment, so... ok!Legion1979 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:33 pmHoly crap, welcome back to TK!Jomei wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:37 pm Holy moly, how is there 60+ pages worth of anything to say about these figures?
Never change, TK.
That said, I think these small recent ones are moderately cool. The glow ones seem worth having. Shame the '57, despite being a super exciting idea, isn't more differentiated sculpt-wise from the '54.
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Honestly the 57 is quite unique from the 54. The only pieces they share are the body and tail.
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I've thrown together a list of what I imagine the waves could look like based on what we've seen so far. I've done my best to try and put monsters together in a thematic sense (e.g., Rodan '56 and Varan '58 together since they both had a standalone movie, Gorosaurus and Baragon '65 together since they both fought humanoid monsters, etc.) Spoiler tagging for those who don't careInfiniteHollywood wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:53 pmShowa has a lot of repeat monsters in films, especially chronological. That makes it hard to theme a 2 figure wave IMO. Likewise I don’t believe they will do every version of Godzilla from Showa, just like they’re not going to do every Godzilla from Heisei.
The monsters rarely changed much in Showa films. Sometimes they did. But that’s irrelevant to the Godzilla suits which pretty much changed every film. I suspect they will do more “catch all” versions of the Showa Godzillas when they get to them. But with the other monsters, one is as good as any.
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Technically true but visually they don't differ nearly enough IMO. Big missed opportunity on the '57.InfiniteHollywood wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:29 amHonestly the 57 is quite unique from the 54. The only pieces they share are the body and tail.