Ah. I knew it. An excuse to justify a flaw.Ethan wrote:This is intentional. Godzilla is meant to be dizzy after basically being washed away and unearthing himself.shinmattiathekaiju wrote:Mothra vs Godzilla:Godzilla's clumsiness.
Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
- shinmattiathekaiju
- EDF Instructor
- Posts: 2605
- Joined: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:45 pm
- Location: Nowhere
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
Living Corpse wrote:Being underrated and underground is overrated.
Varan Bon Ziller wrote:The lack of Bay is always a plus...
http://www.youtube.com/user/Ultramanmattia1
- TokyoVigilante
- Futurian
- Posts: 3124
- Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:10 pm
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
How was Godzilla being clumsy a special effects flaw to begin with? The movie makes several intentional instances to show Godzilla bumble-fucking around. Getting his tail stuck in Tokyo Tower was not an accident and neither was Godzilla stumbling and falling into Nagoya Castle.
“I have never listened to anyone who criticized my taste in space travel, sideshows or gorillas. When this occurs, I pack up my dinosaurs and leave the room.” - Ray Bradbury
- GotengoXGodzilla
- EDF Instructor
- Posts: 2600
- Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:16 pm
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
How is that a flaw? It's a part of the story and the character of Godzilla in Mothra vs. Godzilla.shinmattiathekaiju wrote:Ah. I knew it. An excuse to justify a flaw.Ethan wrote:This is intentional. Godzilla is meant to be dizzy after basically being washed away and unearthing himself.shinmattiathekaiju wrote:Mothra vs Godzilla:Godzilla's clumsiness.
Check out my film blog - Seeing Is Believing
- TokyoVigilante
- Futurian
- Posts: 3124
- Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:10 pm
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
Seeing how fond of using his tail Godzilla was then, that would make sense. But it looked like to me like he laid his tail in and started to freak out.Tyler wrote:Looked like he purposely wrapped his tail around it to me.TokyoVigilante wrote:Getting his tail stuck in Tokyo Tower was not an accident
If only we could get translated copies of the original screenplays!! I'd love to see vague instances like that get clarified (and for the novelty of reading a golden age Godzilla script).
Last edited by TokyoVigilante on Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
“I have never listened to anyone who criticized my taste in space travel, sideshows or gorillas. When this occurs, I pack up my dinosaurs and leave the room.” - Ray Bradbury
- TokyoVigilante
- Futurian
- Posts: 3124
- Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:10 pm
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
The "Han Shot First" of Godzilla fandom.Tyler wrote:Did Gorosaurus break Ghidorah's back?TokyoVigilante wrote:If only we could get translated copies of the original screenplays!! I'd love to see vague instances like that only get clarified (and for the novelty of reading a golden age Godzilla script).
ALL OF JAPAN IS TOKYO, OKAY.NSZ wrote:WTF is Tokyo Tower doing in Nagoya?TokyoVigilante wrote: Getting his tail stuck in Tokyo Tower was not an accident and neither was Godzilla stumbling and falling into Nagoya Castle.
“I have never listened to anyone who criticized my taste in space travel, sideshows or gorillas. When this occurs, I pack up my dinosaurs and leave the room.” - Ray Bradbury
-
- EDF Instructor
- Posts: 2916
- Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:47 am
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
The shuffling aggregate Destoroyah "toys" in GvD.
I just want to loop that shot over and over set to this music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-otEdq-Ozo
I just want to loop that shot over and over set to this music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-otEdq-Ozo
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
*Space Battle Between SpaceGodzilla and M.O.G.U.E.R.A.
*Mini Ghidorah and Gigan flying around Godzilla Tower
*Minya
*The puppet Godzilla in KOM
*The Varan puppet in DAM
*In Terror of MechaGodzilla when MechaGodzilla blows up a city block it just looks SO f*****g fake.
Couldn't settle on one, sorry.
*Mini Ghidorah and Gigan flying around Godzilla Tower
*Minya
*The puppet Godzilla in KOM
*The Varan puppet in DAM
*In Terror of MechaGodzilla when MechaGodzilla blows up a city block it just looks SO f*****g fake.
Couldn't settle on one, sorry.
- heiseisaegusa
- Monsterland Worker
- Posts: 150
- Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:39 pm
- Location: UK
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
As godzilla fans we should see through some of the crappy effects but I will admit the sliding Godzilla jr robot that was used in Godzilla vs Destoroyah was pretty bad.
84-95
- Goji
- Xilien Halfling
- Posts: 6476
- Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:37 pm
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
You gotta be kidding me. It's not supposed to look "real" in the first place. That's some of the best destruction seen in the Showa films. You're nuts dude..RedZillaKing wrote: *In Terror of MechaGodzilla when MechaGodzilla blows up a city block it just looks SO f*****g fake.
Last edited by Goji on Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:11 am, edited 1 time in total.
UltramanGoji wrote: Cranky because you got mad I implied GFW isn't a good movie aren't you
Chrispy_G wrote:I'll say it one last time, Trump wins in a landslide.
I'll gladly eat crow if it doesn't turn out that way....but at this point it feels painfully obvious, as it has for months.
- Gojira-Fan
- Gotengo Officer
- Posts: 1649
- Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:45 pm
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
I agree. It may not be visually convincing, but it is very visually appealing.Goji wrote:You gotta be kidding me. It's not supposed to look "real" I'm the first place. That's some of the best destruction seen in the Showa films. You're nuts dude..RedZillaKing wrote: *In Terror of MechaGodzilla when MechaGodzilla blows up a city block it just looks SO f*****g fake.
-
- EDF Instructor
- Posts: 2916
- Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:47 am
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
Yeah, I agree too. They're colourful fantasy films in the first place anyway.Gojira-Fan wrote:I agree. It may not be visually convincing, but it is very visually appealing.
I hate it when movies throw out all creativity and imagination for "realism".
- Gigan X3
- Futurian
- Posts: 3040
- Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:47 am
- Location: The Streets.
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
That's one of my favorite parts of the movie.Goji wrote:You gotta be kidding me. It's not supposed to look "real" I'm the first place. That's some of the best destruction seen in the Showa films. You're nuts dude..RedZillaKing wrote: *In Terror of MechaGodzilla when MechaGodzilla blows up a city block it just looks SO f*****g fake.
Chris55 wrote:He was going to kill the T1000 with SEXINESSBiollante wrote:WHY DID THE TERMINATOR STEAL THE BIKER'S GLASSES IN TERMINATOR 2? IT SERVED NOOOOO PURPOSE, WHERE'S THE EXPOSITION?
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
Even when I was a child of six that was the only thing that stood out as fake looking to me. And now, as an adult that realizes how phony a lot of this looks it still stands out as poorly done. It just didn't do it for me. Is it supposed to look real and was just executed badly? You decide!
But the answer is yes.
But the answer is yes.
- Gigan X3
- Futurian
- Posts: 3040
- Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:47 am
- Location: The Streets.
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
I DISAGREE WITH REDZILLAKING AS IF THERE WAS NO TOMORROW.
Chris55 wrote:He was going to kill the T1000 with SEXINESSBiollante wrote:WHY DID THE TERMINATOR STEAL THE BIKER'S GLASSES IN TERMINATOR 2? IT SERVED NOOOOO PURPOSE, WHERE'S THE EXPOSITION?
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
WHY ARE YOU YELLING??? Love the rest of the movie, though. Oh, except when godzilla flys through the air in an upward swinging arc. I think it was when Titanosaurus kicked him.Gigan X3 wrote:I DISAGREE WITH REDZILLAKING AS IF THERE WAS NO TOMORROW.
Oooo what about Mothra's wobbly chicken legs in The Battle For Earth. Those sucked. And she looked pretty lame in general.
- Proofpoochie
- G-Force Personnel
- Posts: 833
- Joined: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:00 am
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
Same here. I love Terror of Mechagodzilla.Gigan X3 wrote:That's one of my favorite parts of the movie.Goji wrote:You gotta be kidding me. It's not supposed to look "real" I'm the first place. That's some of the best destruction seen in the Showa films. You're nuts dude..RedZillaKing wrote: *In Terror of MechaGodzilla when MechaGodzilla blows up a city block it just looks SO f*****g fake.
- Gigan X3
- Futurian
- Posts: 3040
- Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:47 am
- Location: The Streets.
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
Because it was a strong disagreement.RedZillaKing wrote:WHY ARE YOU YELLING??? Love the rest of the movie, though. Oh, except when godzilla flys through the air in an upward swinging arc. I think it was when Titanosaurus kicked him.Gigan X3 wrote:I DISAGREE WITH REDZILLAKING AS IF THERE WAS NO TOMORROW.
Oooo what about Mothra's wobbly chicken legs in The Battle For Earth. Those sucked. And she looked pretty lame in general.
Chris55 wrote:He was going to kill the T1000 with SEXINESSBiollante wrote:WHY DID THE TERMINATOR STEAL THE BIKER'S GLASSES IN TERMINATOR 2? IT SERVED NOOOOO PURPOSE, WHERE'S THE EXPOSITION?
- Goji
- Xilien Halfling
- Posts: 6476
- Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:37 pm
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
The scene is anything but "poorly done", it just happens to rub YOU the wrong way.RedZillaKing wrote:Even when I was a child of six that was the only thing that stood out as fake looking to me. And now, as an adult that realizes how phony a lot of this looks it still stands out as poorly done. It just didn't do it for me. Is it supposed to look real and was just executed badly? You decide!
But the answer is yes.
UltramanGoji wrote: Cranky because you got mad I implied GFW isn't a good movie aren't you
Chrispy_G wrote:I'll say it one last time, Trump wins in a landslide.
I'll gladly eat crow if it doesn't turn out that way....but at this point it feels painfully obvious, as it has for months.
- Kyono_Rei
- GPN Volunteer
- Posts: 127
- Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:28 pm
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
A lot of 1960s (also reused in 1970s) "tank and truck" scenes. They used very tiny (1:72 is my guess) poor looking models for the tanks and it really shows. I personally think they went cheap and used regular small toy models, instead of making larger studio-oriented 1:20 scale models of their own.
This is odd, as they also had some much better scale model scenes in contemporary toho films. Sometimes good scale model scenes are intermixed with previous very poor scenes (like in Godzilla vs Gigan).
Also I hate both Showa King Kong's (visually) with a passion. Especially the King Kong escapes one is a blaring "Guy in a bad monkey suit", as it is alongside of a pretty good IMHO Mechanikong.
This is odd, as they also had some much better scale model scenes in contemporary toho films. Sometimes good scale model scenes are intermixed with previous very poor scenes (like in Godzilla vs Gigan).
Also I hate both Showa King Kong's (visually) with a passion. Especially the King Kong escapes one is a blaring "Guy in a bad monkey suit", as it is alongside of a pretty good IMHO Mechanikong.
Sorry for any speling mistakes, typos or the occasional Engrish. Native speakers, please show me mercy
- Tamura
- EDF Instructor
- Posts: 2481
- Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:32 pm
Re: Worst SFX in a Godzilla Film
I think at least some of us can agree that the worst of the Showa effects are nowhere near as bad as the worst Heisei effects.