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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:19 am

LSD Jellyfish wrote:
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LSD Jellyfish wrote:I have no idea what a Snow Godzilla is.


Shows up in a cameo in some unrelated 3D anime film. There's videos on youtube, I think.

Let me rephrase that: I now know what it is, and I don’t care.

Am I a Godzilla boomer now?


The Always Sunset on Third Street Godzilla was cooler anyway. :shrug:
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Gigantis » Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:45 am

I want a Ghidorah design with a cobra's hood on his necks.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby godjacob » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:31 am

I mainly like Snow Godzilla just cause it is a interesting element contrast to Legendry's Fire or Toho's Burning Godzilla.

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:19 pm

Gigantis wrote:I want a Ghidorah design with a cobra's hood on his necks.


Something that looks like a combo of KG and King Cobra from GTS?
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Gigantis » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:35 am

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Gigantis wrote:I want a Ghidorah design with a cobra's hood on his necks.


Something that looks like a combo of KG and King Cobra from GTS?


I guess so yeah.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:49 pm

1. I think Raptor-One from the Godzilla 2000 novel is the only anti-kaiju aircraft post Super-Xs to live up to the same standards as the Super-Xs. All others afterwards have been disappointing, either being killed in one shot or not playing much of a role in the plot. In fact I consider it a spiritual successor, almost a Super-X4. I would love it to be in a movie or a video game. I even made a Weapons Talkback about it.

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2. I consider Moonlight SY-3 from Destroy All Monsters to be a prototype Super-X. a Showa Super-X0. It survived continuous fire of Godzilla's Atomic Breath, outpaced Rodan, survived direct contact with the Fire Dragon, fought it and was armed with freezer missiles.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Gigantis » Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:55 am

Honestly in some non-canon crossover that didn't mess with either continuities, a Pacific Rim/ Godzilla crossover might have worked, but i don't see it ever happening now.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby edgaguirus » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:15 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
2. I consider Moonlight SY-3 from Destroy All Monsters to be a prototype Super-X. a Showa Super-X0. It survived continuous fire of Godzilla's Atomic Breath, outpaced Rodan, survived direct contact with the Fire Dragon, fought it and was armed with freezer missiles.


The SY-3 is a great prototype for the Heisei SX trio. It seems like Japanese sci fi films of the late 50s through the 70s had all sorts of advanced and interesting spacecraft and futuristic vehicles.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Destoroyah of Worlds » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:43 pm

godjacob wrote:I mainly like Snow Godzilla just cause it is a interesting element contrast to Legendry's Fire or Toho's Burning Godzilla.

I would like to see the concept reused in a toho movie. Maybe as "Ice Godzilla" and he shoots a beam of ice that freezes things, instead of blowing ice shards.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby JAGzilla » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:35 am

Here's a good one: Some of the best Showa Godzilla films have some of the worst posters. I don't hate them or anything, but they aren't the most appealing things in the world, either. The first three range from good to great, but then they stumble starting with Mothra vs. Godzilla. Mothra looks way too big compared to Godzilla, distractingly so, especially considering she's the underdog hero; logically, she should be smaller. The monsters take up a bit too much space, too, making the image look cluttered. Then there's that weird smaller image of Godzilla off to the side, which is needless and just a bad picture in general. GTTHM's poster has a similar problem with looking cluttered; in general I like the monsters to take up less of the image. The sad little 'beams' are pathetic and should never have been included. Monster Zero's is much more to my liking and I love all the space imagery, but it botches Rodan by having his face in front of Ghidorah's wing; at a glance, it's hard to tell what the heck you're looking at, there, and the first time I saw it my first thought was that Rodan had a super-long beak for some reason. That contrail sort of thing coming out of his chest is also strange. EHOTD also comes close to getting it right, but Ebirah's weird sideways position is a baffling choice, and he doesn't stand out enough because he's in front of Godzilla. Son of Godzilla has a fantastic poster, though, and they stay good or better through the rest of the era, with Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla being my favorite of them all.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby KingKong2005 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:00 pm

Gigantis wrote:Honestly in some non-canon crossover that didn't mess with either continuities, a Pacific Rim/ Godzilla crossover might have worked, but i don't see it ever happening now.

Whaaa?! Think about it; A parallel universe Godzilla can crossover into the breach ending up in the PR universe! Legendary can through hollow earth tunnels, other Godzilla's can just show up, heck they could make an entirely new Godzilla for this specific crossover!
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby GodzillavsRayquaza » Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:33 am

I hope Toho’s future Godzillas continue to go down the same path of weirdness and uniqueness that Shin and Earth have set. MV Godzilla is a perfect “traditional” Godzilla for modern times, and we also have plenty of movies with traditional Godzillas as well that branch out and cover myriad bases, so I say keep getting real weird with Godzilla.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Jetty_Jags » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:24 am

Honestly despite really loving Pacific rim, I never wanted a Godzilla crossover. Yes they both have giant monsters but their individual aesthetics are quite different, and I really don’t think it would work. Furthermore i don’t see it doing anything interesting and just kinda being a bland creature feature.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Cryptid_Liker » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 am

LSD Jellyfish wrote:
Kaiju-King42 wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:I have no idea what a Snow Godzilla is.


Shows up in a cameo in some unrelated 3D anime film. There's videos on youtube, I think.

Let me rephrase that: I now know what it is, and I don’t care.

Am I a Godzilla boomer now?

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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby DirektorSplennic » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:57 pm

Jetty_Jags wrote:Honestly despite really loving Pacific rim, I never wanted a Godzilla crossover. Yes they both have giant monsters but their individual aesthetics are quite different, and I really don’t think it would work. Furthermore i don’t see it doing anything interesting and just kinda being a bland creature feature.

The first Pacific Rim is one of my favorite movies period. That being said a Godzilla crossover would be soulless and unecessary. Pacific Rim should stand on its own and not use Godzilla as some kind of crutch. PR1 has so much love and soul put into it and it really stands out to me as its own thing.

Uprising does not count. It made some cool toys and thats it.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:05 pm

GodzillavsRayquaza wrote:I hope Toho’s future Godzillas continue to go down the same path of weirdness and uniqueness that Shin and Earth have set. MV Godzilla is a perfect “traditional” Godzilla for modern times, and we also have plenty of movies with traditional Godzillas as well that branch out and cover myriad bases, so I say keep getting real weird with Godzilla.


Shin Godzilla gave the character a fresh and intriguing rebirth, so it would be interesting to see what could be further done with that kind of kaiju film.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby HedorahIsBestGirl » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:07 pm

Forgive me father for I have sinned...
- I don't enjoy Godzilla (1954) as much as practically any of the other Showa films. Not because it isn't a good film but because it's extremely bleak and I have to be in a dark mood to watch it. I'd rather watch any of the (figuratively and literally) more colorful Godzilla films of the 60s and 70s. While I regard G54 as the best film in the series overall, it's never been one of my favorites.
- I don't think that King Ghidorah was ever a particularly menacing villain. He's big and he has a memorable design but there's plenty of other kaiju baddies who were portrayed as more menacing onscreen. Mechagodzilla and Hedorah are the obvious examples from the Showa era but, hell, I think that Kumonga was more threatening in her debut film than Ghidorah ever was.
- I enjoy Jun Fukuda's directorial style more than Ishiro Honda's. I think Honda's films tend to be more well-rounded and objectively "better" overall but Fukuda has skreeonking flair. I pick up and watch SOG and Gigan more than most of Honda's kaiju movies.
- Speaking of Honda, I enjoy War of the Gargantuas and Destroy All Monsters the most out of all his films even though I don't think they are two of his strongest.
- Objectively, I think Return of Godzilla is easily the best Heisei film. It's production is incredibly competent but it's just that, competent; it isn't bold or daring or special. It's a damn well-made movie without the heart and soul of the Showa films. That's my take, anyway.
- I would enjoy both Godzilla vs. Biollante and vs. King Ghidorah way, way more if not for the godawful gaijin actors. I understand that being annoyed by a few bad actors in minor roles is a petty reason to take issue with a movie but it really does greatly hinder my enjoyment of both films.
- I think that Gamera: Revenge of Iris is better than any Godzilla movie. Also, I'll show the Heisei Gamera trilogy to friends before any of the Godzilla films. Sorry if that means my "trufan" card needs to be revoked.
- My biggest gripe with the anime trilogy is the lack of a proper kaiju fight. To be clear, I maintain that there are a myriad of problems with these movies, but if the second and third films had delivered epic shonen-esq final battles between Godzilla and Mechagodzilla/Ghidorah, I'd probably forgive a lot of that.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:18 am

HedorahIsBestGirl wrote:Also, I'll show the Heisei Gamera trilogy to friends before any of the Godzilla films. Sorry if that means my "trufan" card needs to be revoked.


I'll second you on this one, actually. The Gamera Trilogy just as good as the very best of Toho's 60's output, but also has the added benefit of being more modern and thus more palatable to a newcomer.

Well, at least the latter two of the trilogy. Unfortunately, Guardian of the Universe has the more dated effects that would be hard for a newcomer to swallow, and leave the film open to ridicule. It's probably not a good starting point – your best option is to start with Legion and give them a verbal recap of the first movie.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Living Corpse » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:24 am

Gigantis wrote:I want a Ghidorah design with a cobra's hood on his necks.


I want one where each head has 6 eyes.
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Re: Kaiju Fan Confessions

Postby Kaltes-Herzeleid » Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:58 am

HedorahIsBestGirl wrote:Forgive me father for I have sinned...
- I don't enjoy Godzilla (1954) as much as practically any of the other Showa films. Not because it isn't a good film but because it's extremely bleak and I have to be in a dark mood to watch it. I'd rather watch any of the (figuratively and literally) more colorful Godzilla films of the 60s and 70s. While I regard G54 as the best film in the series overall, it's never been one of my favorites.

- I think that Gamera: Revenge of Iris is better than any Godzilla movie. Also, I'll show the Heisei Gamera trilogy to friends before any of the Godzilla films. Sorry if that means my "trufan" card needs to be revoked.


Agree with both of these. I adore G54 but it lacks re-watch value for me in the long run. I've watched Shin Godzilla more times than the original, honestly.

And yeah, to me the Gamera trilogy is peak kaijukino, oh hell I'd say its peak cinema as a whole. Gamera 3 has been my favorite movie of all time for six or so years now and I've definitely had similar thoughts of showing the Gamera trilogy to uninitiated audiences before any Godzilla film.

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Gigantis wrote:I want a Ghidorah design with a cobra's hood on his necks.


I want one where each head has 6 eyes.


Kind of like this, then?
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