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kamilleblu wrote:Director Masaaki Tezuka enjoyed both Godzilla (1998) and Godzilla (2014), hated Godzilla 2000, and prefers Kiriko Tsujimori of Megaguirus over Akane Yashiro of the Kiryu Saga. His wife think that his movies were better than Godzilla (2014).
so he's the director with the worst taste, got it.

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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: so he's the director with the worst taste, got it.
expect the Godzilla 2014 enjoyment thing
You got it in one, sir.
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
kamilleblu wrote:Director Masaaki Tezuka enjoyed both Godzilla (1998) and Godzilla (2014), hated Godzilla 2000, and prefers Kiriko Tsujimori of Megaguirus over Akane Yashiro of the Kiryu Saga. His wife think that his movies were better than Godzilla (2014).
so he's the director with the worst taste, got it.
God damn........He needs some milk.

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kamilleblu wrote:Director Masaaki Tezuka enjoyed both Godzilla (1998) and Godzilla (2014), hated Godzilla 2000, and prefers Kiriko Tsujimori of Megaguirus over Akane Yashiro of the Kiryu Saga. His wife think that his movies were better than Godzilla (2014).
His movies aren't better than G14. They aren't much worse but at least G14 had Bryan Cranston and Hollywood CGI. The Tezuka films have neither of those things. I don't like either of his female leads but Akane is indeed the slightly more interesting of the two. G2K while not exactly a favorite of mine is still one of the better films in the franchise. Tezuka is the worst director ever attached to the franchise so he's got little room to talk.
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JAGzilla wrote:And a Marc Cerasini-style Godzilla movie would be one of the greatest things that could ever happen.
And now I'm reminded about the 5th book never coming out. UGH.

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kamilleblu wrote:Director Masaaki Tezuka enjoyed both Godzilla (1998) and Godzilla (2014), hated Godzilla 2000, and prefers Kiriko Tsujimori of Megaguirus over Akane Yashiro of the Kiryu Saga. His wife think that his movies were better than Godzilla (2014).
And that's the movie that caused it's cancellation.
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I find LP Mothra to be a far greater departure from the character than Shin ever was. Its really shocking me how many people are on board with it.
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Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:I find LP Mothra to be a far greater departure from the character than Shin ever was. Its really shocking me how many people are on board with it.
Because its the bowsette of the kaiju fandom......*shudders*

I mean aside from the wings she looks alien to me. She looks like a kaiju model with its slicked back antennas and tiny wasp waist. Her design stands out too much from the rest and I believe as to why they gave her Muto legs to sort of half ass tie in the insect formula.

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Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:I find LP Mothra to be a far greater departure from the character than Shin ever was. Its really shocking me how many people are on board with it.
Personally, I think people are on board the same reason we all got on board with Shin. It's a shockingly new take on the character, but the core traits and personality are still there. It's still Mothra, not MINO.
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:I find LP Mothra to be a far greater departure from the character than Shin ever was. Its really shocking me how many people are on board with it.
Personally, I think people are on board the same reason we all got on board with Shin. It's a shockingly new take on the character, but the core traits and personality are still there. It's still Mothra, not MINO.
Sorry Soggy but not ALL people got on board with Shin.....I sure as hell didn't. But I get your point, but still not everyone likes her design. They like her wings because that is about the only thing that tries to keep the core trait about her. The humanoid alien face wasp like thorax abdomen or whatever four legs, two long front muto like legs and everything else is just bleh.

But hey, to each their own.

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Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:I find LP Mothra to be a far greater departure from the character than Shin ever was. Its really shocking me how many people are on board with it.
But...it really isn't...

Especially when you consider the precedent set by the Male M.U.T.O.

The new Mothra design fits the aesthetics of the MonsterVerse...at
least as far as I'm concerned.

The classic "fluffy" Toho Mothra would not have worked in this universe.
goji89 wrote:Because its the bowsette of the kaiju fandom......*shudders*
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I think it looks far more like a hybrid of a wasp and grasshopper that has moth wings. Nothing about it remotely feels like Mothra to me. Everyone turned out about as well as they could while still retaining the core of their characters. Mothra is an enormous departure from the character. If I wasn't told ahead of time it was Mothra I would never even know.
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On the flip side, I love Mothra's new design. Most of her past incarnations look...samey. Going a radical departure was a risk but I feel it paid off.
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^Agreed. But in any case, we really should wait and see her in action before we start leaning too far in either direction. You can't always tell what a kaiju is going to be like from still promotional images. Case in point, I think G14 looks pretty terrible in posters and some other images, but in the actual movie he looks fantastic.
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Living Corpse wrote:On the flip side, I love Mothra's new design. Most of her past incarnations look...samey. Going a radical departure was a risk but I feel it paid off.
Hear Hear!

And I'm sure Mothra will still be the understanding & benevolent kaiju
she has always been. She just has a new look is all.
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You know I'm just not all that excited for KotM. I've been pretty ambivalent to everything I've seen so far. Maybe that's just because I haven't been impressed with the MonsterVerse output so far? Everyone in their brother are hyping it up to ridiculous levels but I'm just not feeling it. I'm gonna see it and I really do hope its good but I'm honestly getting burned out at this point. I honestly would not be disappointed if we didn't get anything else after this next trailer. They've revealed more than enough major details already and we still got such a long wait to go. I honestly don't wanna know any more.
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Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:They've revealed more than enough major details already and we still got such a long wait to go. I honestly don't wanna know any more.
That's a fair call...
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I think about 25% of why I love Godzilla films are the JSDF sequences and shots. I think a big benefit of using miniatures is, since you’re not paying by the second for cgi or other expensive bells and whistles, you can take longer shots and also just have more objects in your shots. As a result, Godzilla films often convey a scale of battle that Hollywood honestly rarely succeeds in.

Contrast the military’s running battle with Godzilla throughout MvG, for example, which imo is the highlight of the film, with Saving Private Ryan. In the first, yeah you can tell it’s toys and a rubber suit. But nonetheless, you’ve got these incredible scenes of tanks in the foreground, background, midground, all firing their cannons, planes dropping bombs, massive explosions, Godzilla himself - often all in the same shot, or edited together to really show the full sound and scope of this battle. There’s just so much happening at once, but not in a clustered way - it’s like one of those gigantic paintings full of tiny little details where you notice new moments and things everytime you look at it.

In the second, you have a really historically accurate, harrowing infantry battle that by accounts of veterans who watched the film, truly recreated the feel and hell of Omaha Beach. BUT, that amount of effort is expensive, and as a result we only see and follow essentially one squad through a battle that, in real life, was like on an insane LOTR-level scale. I guess you could argue it was a filmmaking choice to get you to invest in the main characters, but there’s plenty of other examples in Hollywood. The set for Hacksaw Ridge in Hacksaw Ridge, for example, is intricately detailed, but is basically the size of a sound stage (which it probably is).

Both have their place, but yeah, I do appreciate the scale of the military engagements in Godzilla films, where’s there’s just rockets and muzzle flashes lighting every freaking corner of the screen at once, and in shots long enough that you can actually see them too.
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All I've ever wanted to see is a big military confrontation in a big budget Hollywood kaiju film and it really frustrates me that every single one so far has largely foregone such a sequence. Oddly enough Shin Godzilla is the only recent film to give me such a sequence and it was a relatively cheap Japanese product.
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I find it annoying how there's always a dick measuring contest between new incarnations of kaiju and old ones. Why can't we appreciate all of them for what they do individually, and in the context of their story?
Like, I think both the anime Ghidorah and MV KG are pretty cool side by side, and yes they're both different aspects of the same character, but they're both King Ghidorah at the end of the day. I know all of us haven't seen those two in action, but I don't think the filmmakers associated with them set out to do anything of disservice to them.
Of course people can have opinions and people might see things others might not, I just don't think it's fair to absolutely blindly hate any kaiju incarnation, or push them aside based of appearance - be it old or new.
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Each of Godzilla's three recurring allies (Mothra, Rodan and Anguirus) have appeared in a Mechagodzilla film.

That's not a confession, I just wanted to say that somewhere...
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