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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Sat May 25, 2019 5:55 pm

Godzilla vs. Kong if anything should had been moved back as Godzilla: King of the Monsters. I was glad the latter was moved back because by doing that it leads to polishing and editing making the film better. The same case would had gone for here as well.

Plus Godzilla vs. Kong like KotM spells Summer blockbuster and if I were to had picked a date I would have gone with July 3rd since that'd be a day before Independence Day which would be good marketing.

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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby American Godzilla » Sun May 26, 2019 2:57 pm

Godzilla Earth, without that invulnerable shield to protect him, would not last long vs other powerful Gojiras/kaiju. Plus his 318 meter height would be a disadvantage in close quarters vs smaller but very strong and tough past Gojiras. For example, 90s Godzilla can lift and toss around kaiju heavier than anime godzilla, and hide in areas near the anime monster where the anime couldn't easily see or hit him.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby _JNavs_ » Sun May 26, 2019 3:00 pm

Since Godzilla Earth is technically like, a tree, wouldn't that mean he'd be weak against any atomic breath? I don't see why the smaller Godzillas wouldn't be able to burn him from the ankles up. But that anime shield that almost all anime monsters tend to have is ridonculous.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Sun May 26, 2019 3:11 pm

You guys are silly if you don't think Godzilla Earth wouldn't just blast every other Godzilla to smithereens with it's laser.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby _JNavs_ » Sun May 26, 2019 3:14 pm

Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:You guys are silly if you don't think Godzilla Earth wouldn't just blast every other Godzilla to smithereens with it's laser.

Tbh he's extremely slow, I think if they could get under him he'd be in big trouble. his body wouldn't allow him to look a multitude of directions. G19 for example, he's quick witted, charges opponents, and has what seems to be a massive atomic blast. If Earth doesn't have his OP shields, I think a group of Goji's could take him out.

Shin would be done for, but I could see him getting at least one massive shot in on Earth, maybe as a distraction.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Sun May 26, 2019 4:38 pm

American Godzilla wrote:Godzilla Earth, without that invulnerable shield to protect him, would not last long vs other powerful Gojiras/kaiju. Plus his 318 meter height would be a disadvantage in close quarters vs smaller but very strong and tough past Gojiras. For example, 90s Godzilla can lift and toss around kaiju heavier than anime godzilla, and hide in areas near the anime monster where the anime couldn't easily see or hit him.



I've seen some arguments about why Godzilla 90s is uber powerful but this takes the cake.

Besides the shield, Earth has a literal unstoppable death ray. it tears through everything and anything and you cant "hide behind it". It got to space for crying out loud, what's a rock supposed to do? (also, where a 100 meter tall Godzilla can hide is beyond me but that's not important)

And size is 100% a factor. the only. kaiju 90s tossed was Heisei Ghidorah. That is impressive but Earth is more then 30,000 tons heavier and is literally as big as a mountain.

NO Godzilla could do lasting damage even without the shield.

The whole point of the animes is Godzilla has become a unstoppable force who is the indomitable ruler of Earth, so I'm very confused why so many people keep trying to make him a easy to beat wimp.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby American Godzilla » Sun May 26, 2019 5:28 pm

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
American Godzilla wrote:Godzilla Earth, without that invulnerable shield to protect him, would not last long vs other powerful Gojiras/kaiju. Plus his 318 meter height would be a disadvantage in close quarters vs smaller but very strong and tough past Gojiras. For example, 90s Godzilla can lift and toss around kaiju heavier than anime godzilla, and hide in areas near the anime monster where the anime couldn't easily see or hit him.



I've seen some arguments about why Godzilla 90s is uber powerful but this takes the cake.

Besides the shield, Earth has a literal unstoppable death ray. it tears through everything and anything and you cant "hide behind it". It got to space for crying out loud, what's a rock supposed to do? (also, where a 100 meter tall Godzilla can hide is beyond me but that's not important)

And size is 100% a factor. the only. kaiju 90s tossed was Heisei Ghidorah. That is impressive but Earth is more then 30,000 tons heavier and is literally as big as a mountain.

NO Godzilla could do lasting damage even without the shield.

The whole point of the animes is Godzilla has become a unstoppable force who is the indomitable ruler of Earth, so I'm very confused why so many people keep trying to make him a easy to beat wimp.


I didn't mean to imply that he was a "wimp" without the shielding. I was stating that the Anime Godzilla would not be nearly as much of an 'unstoppable force' when that shield is down as opposed to being up. Even with it down, I am expecting a brawl before one or the other would finally fall.

Despite being "as big as a mountain", he's still 100k tons. That means that thanks to his huge size, opposing Godzillas have even more surface area to play with in order to push Anime Godzilla over (or at least try to as actually lifting him up might be challenging considering how thick just his legs would be vs say 90s Godzilla, so pushing would be).
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Sun May 26, 2019 6:35 pm

American Godzilla wrote:
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American Godzilla wrote:Godzilla Earth, without that invulnerable shield to protect him, would not last long vs other powerful Gojiras/kaiju. Plus his 318 meter height would be a disadvantage in close quarters vs smaller but very strong and tough past Gojiras. For example, 90s Godzilla can lift and toss around kaiju heavier than anime godzilla, and hide in areas near the anime monster where the anime couldn't easily see or hit him.



I've seen some arguments about why Godzilla 90s is uber powerful but this takes the cake.

Besides the shield, Earth has a literal unstoppable death ray. it tears through everything and anything and you cant "hide behind it". It got to space for crying out loud, what's a rock supposed to do? (also, where a 100 meter tall Godzilla can hide is beyond me but that's not important)

And size is 100% a factor. the only. kaiju 90s tossed was Heisei Ghidorah. That is impressive but Earth is more then 30,000 tons heavier and is literally as big as a mountain.

NO Godzilla could do lasting damage even without the shield.

The whole point of the animes is Godzilla has become a unstoppable force who is the indomitable ruler of Earth, so I'm very confused why so many people keep trying to make him a easy to beat wimp.


I didn't mean to imply that he was a "wimp" without the shielding. I was stating that the Anime Godzilla would not be nearly as much of an 'unstoppable force' when that shield is down as opposed to being up. Even with it down, I am expecting a brawl before one or the other would finally fall.

Despite being "as big as a mountain", he's still 100k tons. That means that thanks to his huge size, opposing Godzillas have even more surface area to play with in order to push Anime Godzilla over (or at least try to as actually lifting him up might be challenging considering how thick just his legs would be vs say 90s Godzilla, so pushing would be).


my point is you're really selling Earth short. hes still uber powerful.

Every Godzilla can get knocked down. is Shin weaker because a building fell on him?
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby American Godzilla » Sun May 26, 2019 7:09 pm

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:
American Godzilla wrote:
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I've seen some arguments about why Godzilla 90s is uber powerful but this takes the cake.

Besides the shield, Earth has a literal unstoppable death ray. it tears through everything and anything and you cant "hide behind it". It got to space for crying out loud, what's a rock supposed to do? (also, where a 100 meter tall Godzilla can hide is beyond me but that's not important)

And size is 100% a factor. the only. kaiju 90s tossed was Heisei Ghidorah. That is impressive but Earth is more then 30,000 tons heavier and is literally as big as a mountain.

NO Godzilla could do lasting damage even without the shield.

The whole point of the animes is Godzilla has become a unstoppable force who is the indomitable ruler of Earth, so I'm very confused why so many people keep trying to make him a easy to beat wimp.


I didn't mean to imply that he was a "wimp" without the shielding. I was stating that the Anime Godzilla would not be nearly as much of an 'unstoppable force' when that shield is down as opposed to being up. Even with it down, I am expecting a brawl before one or the other would finally fall.

Despite being "as big as a mountain", he's still 100k tons. That means that thanks to his huge size, opposing Godzillas have even more surface area to play with in order to push Anime Godzilla over (or at least try to as actually lifting him up might be challenging considering how thick just his legs would be vs say 90s Godzilla, so pushing would be).


my point is you're really selling Earth short. hes still uber powerful.

Every Godzilla can get knocked down. is Shin weaker because a building fell on him?


I didn't mean to sell him short. I know he's uber tough as he's the toughest Gojira thus far. I like the creature for the most part, but the films he starred in I do not care for. All I was doing was exploring/debating on could another Gojira challenge Godzilla Earth if he didn't have the shield up. From our debates, and me questioning my own comments from before, I am starting to agree with you.

2019 Godzilla or Final Wars Godzilla would need their Red Atomic Breaths... just to begin to do damage to Godzilla Earth. The 2019 and 2004 Gojiras would last longer if Godzilla Earth didn't use his Red Atomic Ray! Heck, he could just use the blue one if they all are a good distance from each other!

I had thought Shin was scary with his 'laser show' as who could survive an assault from that if you're too close.... until I met Godzilla Earth (and filius honestly). Godzilla filius with that shield up and a beam weapon capable of blowing a whole mountain away (as just the blue version) would be devestating! The force to almost instantly blow away a whole mountain from a blue Atomic Ray from the 50 meter Anime Godzilla has to be (at a minimum) as much devestating force as a Red Atomic Breath from Burning/Final/2019 Godzillas (though I suspect more!!!!)


In a nutshell... thank you for convincing me, and reminding me, at how deadly Godzilla Earth really is. I hope you believe me. I also hope you don't mind me respecting the monster even though I don't care for the films as much.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Sun May 26, 2019 7:26 pm

it's fine dude. Thanks for listening. Most. people just ignore what someone says. It's a nice change. :D
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby American Godzilla » Sun May 26, 2019 7:28 pm

SoggyNoodles2016 wrote:it's fine dude. Thanks for listening. Most. people just ignore what someone says.



Thank you my friend (if you want me as a friend that is). I hope you enjoyed the debate as I did. I never ignore what others say. As part of a debate, I like to do some research... though with my real life being busy I did naturally forget some info as you know. Speaking of the Anime Godzilla, I even found some neat images...

a size relation that includes Godzilla Earth....
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...and Godzilla Earth facing the Death Star (which considering the range on that sucker, this is plausible)
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...this link https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php ... d=69895104 shows a fan-made recreation showing the power of the blue Atomic Ray from the 50 meter Anime Godzilla.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sun May 26, 2019 9:33 pm

Godzilla`s size and abilities, are only relevant to their film they are in. Fantasy matches and comparing Godzilla power wise, is only really interesting comparing how strong a Godzilla was to its relevant universe.

For example:
Godzilla Earth can easily be seen as one of the strongest, but it also had the worst and strongest foes, being the NanoMetal Mechagodzilla, and the Anime Ghidorah. Shin-Gojira, was vastly over powered in the world it was in, and with the exception of a very specific weakness, had no chance of being overpowered. The Heisei Godzilla, while being strong, and a slew of weakniesses that were exploited, but managed to keep coming back.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby KillCrites » Mon May 27, 2019 9:37 am

I'm not totally sure what the fandom's general opinion of Keizer (Kaiser?) Ghidorah is, but it's such an ugly design.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby SoggyNoodles2016 » Mon May 27, 2019 9:57 am

General opinion is hes trash and you're on point KillCrites.

Anywho, something that's always bugged me is why hes Kaiser anyhow. Theres no King Ghidorah in this universe or so on. Just call him King Ghidorah.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby GigaBowserG » Mon May 27, 2019 9:59 am

KillCrites wrote:I'm not totally sure what the fandom's general opinion of Keizer (Kaiser?) Ghidorah is, but it's such an ugly design.


Fandom consensus? No idea. General TK consensus, from what I've seen, is that it's inferior in terms of design to Monster X.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby Marp » Mon May 27, 2019 1:25 pm

KillCrites wrote:I'm not totally sure what the fandom's general opinion of Keizer (Kaiser?) Ghidorah is, but it's such an ugly design.


I kinda like Keizer Ghidorah. I like the four legged look, which makes it rather impressive since he had to have two guys inside him to achieve the effect. Plus, I really enjoy the dirty, grimy yellow and black on him, reminds me of mouldy cheese and that makes him all the more twisted and disgusting. Plus, his sound effects and roars help seal the deal that he's a twisted, unholy beast. I'm pretty fond of him, though obviously not as much as the classic King and similar variations.

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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby UltramanGoji » Mon May 27, 2019 2:06 pm

Everything about Keizer Ghidorah would be good if it just wasn't a two-person horse joke.
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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby goji89 » Mon May 27, 2019 2:27 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:Everything about Keizer Ghidorah would be good if it just wasn't a two-person horse joke.


Yeah, I mean one of them poor bastards was smelling Keizer farts all day.

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Re: Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

Postby DirektorSplennic » Mon May 27, 2019 2:34 pm

I like Keizer Ghidorah but I think Death Ghidorah pulled off the four-legged look better.
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